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A09106 A quiet and sober reckoning vvith M. Thomas Morton somewhat set in choler by his aduersary P.R. concerning certaine imputations of wilfull falsities obiected to the said T.M. in a treatise of P.R. intituled Of mitigation, some part wherof he hath lately attempted to answere in a large preamble to a more ample reioynder promised by him. But heere in the meane space the said imputations are iustified, and confirmed, & with much increase of new vntruthes on his part returned vpon him againe: so as finally the reconing being made, the verdict of the Angell, interpreted by Daniel, is verified of him. There is also adioyned a peece of a reckoning with Syr Edward Cooke, now L. Chief Iustice of the Co[m]mon Pleas, about a nihil dicit, & some other points vttered by him in two late preambles, to his sixt and seauenth partes of Reports. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1609 (1609) STC 19412; ESTC S114160 496,646 773

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the_o decree_n of_o the_o canon_n that_o he_o live_v dissolute_o etc._n etc._n 117
hear_v a_o more_o grave_a and_o grievous_a charge_n make_v against_o he_o for_o worse_a abuse_v of_o the_o same_o carerius_fw-la thus_o it_o lie_v in_o my_o book_n 49._o the_o next_o sentence_n quoth_v i_o or_o objection_n after_o the_o former_a preface_n which_o be_v the_o very_a first_o of_o his_o discourse_n be_v frame_v by_o he_o but_o yet_o in_o our_o name_n under_o the_o title_n of_o the_o roman_a pretence_n in_o these_o word_n the_o high_a priest_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n say_v he_o be_v supreme_a in_o civil_a cause_n ergo_fw-la they_o ought_v to_o be_v so_o also_o in_o the_o new_a for_o which_o he_o cit_v one_o carerius_fw-la a_o lawyer_n that_o write_v of_o late_a in_o padua_n de_fw-fr potestate_fw-la romani_fw-la pon●ificis_fw-la 2._o defend_v the_o former_a opinion_n of_o canonist_n for_o direct_a dominion_n and_o cit_v his_o word_n in_o latyn_n thus_o monarch_n dico_fw-la pontificem_fw-la in_o veteri_fw-la testamento_fw-la suisse_fw-la rege_fw-la maiorem_fw-la and_o 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calse_a for_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o common_a wealth_n the_o three_o and_o four_o of_o a_o he_o and_o shee-goat_n for_o the_o prince_n and_o private_a person_n whereby_o carerius_fw-la infer_v a_o most_o certain_a dignity_n and_o pre-eminence_n of_o the_o priest_n state_n above_o the_o temporal_a prince_n though_o he_o say_v not_o in_o civil_a cause_n as_o this_o minister_n do_v bely_v he_o 50._o and_o whereas_o carerius_fw-la have_v say_v in_o two_o former_a answer_n first_o that_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n ecclesiastical_a and_o secular_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o so_o distinct_a but_o that_o both_o may_v be_v in_o some_o case_n in_o the_o king_n &_o second_o that_o in_o the_o law_n the_o new_a spiritual_a power_n be_v more_o emynent_a they_o in_o the_o old_a he_o come_v three_o to_o say_v that_o in_o the_o old_a law_n the_o high_a priest_n in_o some_o respect_n be_v great_a also_o than_o the_o king_n which_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o civil_a ●ower_n except_o the_o 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de_fw-fr victoria_n who_o in_o like_a manner_n he_o do_v egregious_o abuse_v as_o by_o my_o former_a complaint_n may_v appear_v which_o i_o deliver_v in_o these_o word_n 53._o it_o follow_v in_o the_o 16._o page_n thus_o your_o devise_n say_v m._n morton_n of_o exemption_n of_o priest_n from_o the_o ●urisdiction_n of_o temporal_a prince_n in_o certain_a case_n be_v too_o crude_a to_o be_v digest_v by_o any_o reasonable_a divine_a 199._o for_o as_o ●our_n victoria_n say_v priest_n beside_o that_o they_o be_v mynister_n of_o the_o church_n they_o be_v likewise_o member_n of_o the_o common_a wealth_n &_o a_o king_n be_v aswell_o king_n of_o the_o clergy_n as_o of_o the_o laity_n therefore_o the_o clergy_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o civil_a authority_n in_o temporal_a thing_n for_o such_o matter_n be_v not_o rule_v by_o any_o power_n spiritual_a a_o plain_a demonstration_n so_o he_o and_o i_o say_v the_o same_o that_o indeed_o it_o be_v a_o plain_a demonstration_n of_o m._n mortons_n 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