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A00919	A Catholike confutation of M. Iohn Riders clayme of antiquitie and a caulming comfort against his caueat. In which is demonstrated, by assurances, euen of protestants, that al antiquitie, for al pointes of religion in controuersie, is repugnant to protestancie. Secondly, that protestancie is repugnant particularlie to al articles of beleefe. Thirdly, that puritan plots are pernitious to religion, and state. And lastly, a replye to M. Riders Rescript; with a discouerie of puritan partialitie in his behalfe. By Henry Fitzimon of Dublin in Irland, of the Societie of Iesus, priest.; Catholike confutation of M. John Riders clayme of antiquitie.	Fitzsimon, Henry, b. 1566.; Rider, John, 1562-1632. Rescript.; Rider, John, 1562-1632. Friendly caveat to Irelands Catholicks.	1608 (1608)	STC 11025; ESTC S102272	591,774	580

Ianuarie next in sueing as also their brethren what oathes soeuer they made to rest in peace they dispensed with them as aften as the least aduantage appeared Fiftly vnderstand that what woords you deseruedly tearme vehement and dredfull in the oath inforced vpon you them not to belong to any point of our Doctrin but altogether to be a parte of the Doctrin of our aduersaries as partly befor appeareth and is manifest in these their articles Buchanan pag. 6. 13. obed pag. 25. Vide Suruey of pret● h. discipline p. 283. 284. Dangerous Positions l. 4. c. 3. 4. Bellarm. in ep ad Blackvvellum The Ministers may excommunicat the greatest Prince and he that is excommunicated is not worthye to inioy any life vpon earth It were good that rewards were appointed by the people for such as kill tirants as commonly there are for uch as haue killed Wolues or beares c. That such Doctrin hath bene held by Catholikes the Apologist although he layeth downe Bellarmins demand wher was it euer heard that euer a Pope ether commanded to be killed or allowed the slawghter of any Prince whatsoeuer Yet lawncing only at the Frier that had killed the K. of France he wyndeth from the mater to carpe at pretended contradictions in Bellarmins controuersies But nether yf a Frier yea or Pope in mater of fact should transgresse may therfor it be sayd to be an impious heretical and damnable Doctrin or position of ours as the woords of the oath import that any such transgression should be committed Sixtly vnderstand that of these oathes of allegiance although the first eschue the name of supremacie and the second the name of Pope yet in substance both of them to be all one with the owld oath of supremacie This the Apologist most stoutly and vehemently denyeth but vnknowen to him selfe he danceth in a nett For how may these wordes of the oath be interpreted otherwyse then to impute supremacie to the K. and to denye it to the Pope I do vtterly testifie and declare in my conscience that the kings Highnes is the Only supreme Gouernour of this realme and all other his Highnes Dominions and contries as well in spiritual or ecclesiastical things or causes as temporal And that noe forraine Prince person or Prelat hath or ought to haue any Iurisdiction power superioritie preheminence or authoritie ecclesiastical or spiritual within this realme c. Yf his Maiestie be only supreme Gouernour in all Spiritual and ecclesiastical things or causes yf noe Prelat hath any iurisdiction ecclesiastical then loude and palpable must be these vntrue assertions of the Apologist Apologie pag. 47. This last made oath only medleth with the ciuil obedience of subiects to their soueraigne only in meere temporal causes the sayd oath concerneth in noe case the Popes supremacie in spiritual causes Ibid. pag. 52. there can not one word be found in all this oath tending or sownding to mater of relgion Ibid. pag. 62. c. Who doth not behould how impudencie doth captiuat these men into voluntarie confusion to defende falshood But although we would silence how much this sworne supremacie of the K. sowndeth mater of religion yet his brethren yea and his Maiestie him selfe do testifie that among them selues it is a principal point and article or religion to professe the contrarie It appeareth first by Willet VVillet Synops contr 7. q. r. D. Morton par 2. Apol l 4. c. 18 p. 340. D. Field pag 228. D. Sutcliff subu p. 119 con Kellison p. 41. 42. 102. D. Ceuel against the plea of Innoc à pag. 103 ad 109. D. Dovvne ep Dedic contr con Bellarm. Hooker l. 5. eccl pos 77. Bel. motiues l. 2. a. fol. 78. ad 81. Hamp Confer p. 82. 83. Nether do we giue vnto the Prince absolute power then noe supremacie to make Eccl●siastical lawes Secondly by D. Mortion A general cowncell is the supreme Iudge Thirdly by D. Field The supreme binding and commanding authoritie is only in Bishopes in a general Cowncell Wherunto consent D. Couel D. Sutcliffe D. Dowram Hooker Bel and all those preachers mentioned by his Maiestie that preaching euen befor him selfe eschue to intitule him the supreme head of the Church God graunt these oppositions make the Apologist knowen to him selfe for suer they detect him to others to be of the described by Terence Imperarunt ipsimet sibi omnia assentari principum ingenia admirari quicquid Principes dicant laudare id si negant laudare id quoque Such as swimme with the streame and sway with the tyme yf Princes would be supreme heads of the Church to iustifie that their determination yf they would in substance so remayne but in shew disclaime to challenge any such prerogatiue to iustifie also such dissimulation Vpon all these premisses I conclude that seing the heade of the Church condemneth the sayd oathes seing also the Apologist fayleth so fowlye in iustification of them Theodor. l. 4. c. 19. in depth of constant Catholikes resolution you are to say with S. Basil he being in like maner sollicited to some vnlawfulnes by the Emperour Valens That you esteeme much his Maiesties fauor with pietie but pietie debarred that it is pernicious And for your loialtie that you will neuer fayle to demonstrat it at all occurrents but to sweare these present oathes that you may not because they containe ane abiuration of his authoritie to whom Iesus Christ hath committed the charge of all his flocke S. Nazian orat 1. in Iulian. So that the oath representeth the sleight of Iulian the Apostata who not being able to constraine Christians to worshipp idols placed them in the portraicts of the Emperours befor whom they bowed reuerently therby causing diuers by deceit at least in ane indirect and remote maner to worship them Which yf they did not then were they afflicted as dispisers not of idols but of the Emperours So now with a lawfull allegiance the oath implyeth a secret lawles abiuration which being therfor not accepted you are accused to be disloial and enemyes to your Soueraignes dignitie But as I sayd giue him that is Cesars and to God what to God belongeth The Archpriests fall is noe block in your way noe more then it of Origen or Tertullian to the primatiue Church Conc. Later c. 43. He did against his priuilege and his fidelitie for which he is to answer as you are to be rewarded reciprocatly by Christ our Saluiour for professing him befor men couragiously And giue me credit they that haue sworne the oath are not esteemed euen by the state so trustfull as they that haue not but as Syr Iohn Perrot sayd to one shrinking schismatike accepting the oath of supremacie among manifould resolutly refusing it Beleeue me I should trust thee least of all this compagnie because I know that in thy conscience thow thinkest as the residue yet dissemblest to giue me satisfaction Cic. orat pro Rosc com Nom

noe place they were so much ouertaken in theire wisdome as in Geneua by the politicke reache of Caluin who beinge admitted anno 1536. by onlye title of their preacher and teacher he moste deceitfully insinuated him selfe ouer their gouerment and for being therein too insolent and imperious he was banished within nine months Caluin epist 6. together with his chefe consorts Farrel and Viret with this allegation Tiranni esse voluerunt in liberam ciuitatem voluerunt nouum pontificatum reuocare They woulde haue bin tyrants ouer a free cittie they would haue reuoked a new papacie This Caluin him self confesseth tearming the Senat of two hundred by whō he was so exiled tumultuosam perditorum hominum sactionem Ibidem a tumultuous faction of damned companions Yet according to the depth of his capacity he purchased such fauorable commendatorie letters of al reformed places he wrote so againste Catholicke religion he dissembled such temperate moderation that within litle more then two yeares after he was reuoked to his former chardg of teaching in Geneua 4. His fiirst fauoure was to be licensed to frame betwixt him selfe and other Ministers a forme of ecclesiastical discipline yet so as to remitte it to the consideration of the Senate to be allowed or no. This forme contaynd that twelue cheefe townes men should be conioyned with six Ministers those to be changed yearly these to be during lyfe Their Iurisdiction should extend only to ecclesiastical causes This forme they intituled a consistorie discipline It was no sooner viewed and lightly approued but the maner of it and proceeding examined in the Senat house great dislyke was as soone conceaued against it In so much as Caluin confesseth in labouring to support it Calu. epist. 54. Calu. epist. 73. 82. 165. he was almost oppressed Also he complaineth of impediments saying we haue to many of a hard and vntamed neck by all occasions aspyring to shake of the yoake c. But not withstanding all possible imployments in pulpits publick and priuat conferences suborning of suffrages yet the Magistrat suspended the execution of this discipline vntill they had consulted with other reformed Churches Wherin also Caluin beyond all comparison ouermatched them For he preuented their informations inueigled the states to whom they appealed beutifyed in such good colours his forsayd Consistorial disciplyne implored the solicitation of the ministers there resident disgraced so all repugners epist. 164 165. and so to be breefe frustrated all hindrances that what by woorking abroad what by slye compassing at home he purchased forraine resolutions and the Senats approbations to his contentment All this narration is contayned in his owne Epistles wherin is manifested that neuer could any attempt be more impugned and yet by slightnes of his witt established then this discipline This ecclesiastical authoritie disalowed the name of Bishops Priests and Canon law exchanging them into teachers Deacons Elders Consistorian discipline c. 5. The cause of this repugnance against it was first by reason they perceaued how all others besyds Caluin serued only for a shew Secondly because vnder the coloure of conscience by degrees all law Read hereof the ordre of Excommunication in Scotland Ae 2. all authoritie all controuersies were subiected to this consistorian discipline Thirdly because all small maters were aggrauated and punished more tyranicaly then deseruedly One instāce I thinke good to inculcat out of Caluins owne information In one widdow Baltasars howse daunced diuers of the best of the Citie Among whom was one of the fower that yeare in cheefe office as also a minister Perrin the Captaine of the towne c. Caluin not being inuited to the sporte him selfe sommoned them all Caluin Farello epist 71. They for more seare flatly denyed the mater Whervpon saith Caluin impudenter nobis Deo mentiti sunt they impudently lyed to vs and to God Behould by the way how he preferreth him selfe to God He then adiured them to confesse their fault but all in vayne After he tendred a corporal oathe which they refused The conclusion was Omnes in carcerem coniecti all were committed to prison except the forsayd Captain who trusting tyme would pacifie this angrie Prince retyred But sayd he quicquid agat paenam non effugiet VVhatsoeuer he did he should not escape Ibidem He being then returned tasted of the same sower cupp The issue was sayth Caluin him selfe that the people perceaued nullam esse spem impunitatis cum primarijs non parcatur there was noe escape when the principal were not spared I might here insert how by the same holy consistorial discipline Valentin Gentil Budneus in annot Nou. test ●on Bezam and Michael Seruet great Reformed preachers and by Budneus called godly searchers of the truth for displeasing Caluin and Beza were put to deathe Fowerthly what with it selfe what with the abuses following not only ciuil Magistrats but also Reforming preachers Bullinger ad quendam Episcop Angliae 10. Mar. 1574. otherwyse Caluins frends signifyed their great discontentment against the forsayd discipline Bullinger wryteth thus therof They imitate in my opinion those seditious Tribuns of Rome who by vertue of the Agrarian law bestowed the publick goods that they might inrich them selues that is that bishops being ouerthrowen they myght inioye their places c. Gualter ad Episc London Ieem in epist ad Episcop ●lien 26. Augusts 1574. Idē in ep ad Episcop Tands Barlow in his book of the summe of the Conferēce befor the kings Maiestie edit an 1605. pag 37. Gualter saith I greatly seare least they bring vs first into the gouernement of the multitude which will shortly be conuerted in to the rule of a few and lastly ende in a new Papacie Agayne I behould nothing to be more ambitious nothing more insolent nothing more vntoward then these men c. Agayne many do repent that euer they admitted these mens Councell 6. Omitting the scanning of an apt definition of a Puritan giuen by one Butler in Cambridge that he is a Protestant frayd owt of his wits I say vpon the premisses that the Puritans now called in our cōtryes are such as repyning at all other ordōnances and iniunctions of highe parlaments and of their soueraigne princes indeuoure by hooke and crooke to bring in this forme of presbiterie and of Geneua Cōsistorian discipline into England with exclusion of all other authoritie Temporal and Spiritual as I am breefly to manifest by theire owne expresse protestations But first I certifie The begynners not so peremptorily to haue impugned such authoritie as the successours For the first malcontented reformers with the state seemed conducted therto only by emulation as Hooper and Rogers who aspiring to be equal with Cranmer and Ridley disliked the communion booke published by them Fox acts and monuments Pag. 1355. and sett foorth another of them selues wherof Fox is to be perused These were Puritans of the meaner sorte standing only vpon tippett cappe rotchet and the

commendations by them vawnted Their confessor according to his dutie instructed them of the heynousnes of those crymes so effectualy that they being sorrowfull for their former lyfe they promised to abstayne heedfully for the future tyme from all disordre and particularly that they would nether lye nor forsweare in bying and selling In the beginning they fownd them selues somewhat interested therby vntill God had fully proued the firmenes of their resolution But after in small processe of tyme their trade customers and welth increased so exceedingly that they came to incomparable wealth So yf our Reformers could refrayne from the same offenses in vtterance of their marchandise in wryting and deale playnly without inhawncing glozing or returning their wares without detracting and belying the prouision sufficience and substance of their neighbours store or beguiling thus their customers I assure you thowsands more would peruse their stuffe and their traffique would be much amended 11. The fift position was this Rider That the Masse which now the Church of Rome doeth vse was not then known in the Church Maister Fitzsymon knowing or else he is ignorant in Durandus Durantus Guido and the rest of the Masse founders that it is impossible to prooue the Masse to be either Apostolicall or Catholicke that in the first fiue hundred yeares it was not hatched vnder the warmth of the Popes wings for then he was scarce Bishop of Rome but that is was to his owne knowledge patched vp in many hundred yeares after those 500 by sundrie Popes and therefore Maister Fitzsymon very wisely passeth the matter ouer without one text of Scripture to prooue it for knowing in his conscience that the Masse neuer came within the letter of Christs will he will not affoord it the least warrant forth of Gods word And for the Fathers that he alleadgeth I am sorrie that a man that hath so fluent a tongue should haue so bad a minde to wrest the Fathers so speake that after their death which they neuer knew in all their life 11. Title VVhether the Masse novv vsed in the Church of Rome vvas knovven to the ancient Church M. Rider denyeth it to haue bene knowen Fitzimon befor Innoncent the thirds tyme. But in the two bookes precedent euen the innocents may iudge whether such be not for the follie therof an Innocēts opinion and for the impudencie therof a sycophants protestation When that M. Rider had threatned befor as often appeareth so wonderfully the Masse that he would shew from first to all to be magick when he had promised to trauers it at the first occasion In 〈◊〉 caueat n. ●8 when he had taken vpon him as a litle after followeth that he had followed me closely in euery lyne woord sillable and leter then not only not to accomplish his threat not to imbrace this opportunite now offered not to produce one woord of all my proofes and to deny that I had alleadged any out of Scripture I know not what it is yf it be not to Ryde as fast as his titt can gallopp And that he may not ryde alone Luther hath sent this sentence as a foote boy to compagnie him Qui semel mentitur hic certissime ex Deo non est suspectus in omnibus habetur Luth. in Asser Teu ho. art 25. He that once lyeth he is not most certainly of God and in all things is to be to suspected As I sayd my treatise of the Masse will further totaly and seueraly for what parte soeuer therof you peruse it alone will discouer the forsayd ryding demonstrat not only M. Rider to be vntrue but that magna est vis veritatis quae contra omnium ingenia calliditatem sol●rtiam contra fictas hominum insidias facile se per scipsam defendet Seneca in epist great is the power of trueth which by it selfe defendeth it selfe agaynst all witts craft industrie and treacherous ambushes of men Yf denials were disproofs yf the dissembling our arguments were the dissoluing of them yf hypocritical protestations be allowed for lawfull pleadings then our cause and case will loose their processe But yf trueth may haue due regarde and proofs their deserued credit and right but a lawfull iudgemēt then falshod as a disguised queene vpon a stage the Pagent being ended wil be discouered to haue bene but a cowntrefett then dissimulation wil be vnmasked then woords wil be valued according the lightnes of their weight As I sayd my ●wo bookes of the Masse compiled vpon the occasion of such denials dissembling and delusions are committed to the regard of their trueth the credit of their proofe and the iudgement of their equitie Let them be accepted but according to desert and they and I will c●aue noe more nor others perhapp requyre greater satisfaction Rider 12. The last question was Of the Popes supremacie and whether the Pope of Rome hath vniuersall iurisdiction ouer all Princes and their Subiects in causes temporall and Ecclesiasticall VVith this Maister Fitzsimon dealeth as with all the rest and for the first part he saith that the Popes supremacie was acknowledged but tels you not within the first fiue hundred yeares and therefore is able to say nothing to that first part in question But impertinently misalleadgeth some Texts of Scripture spoken either touching Peters faith which he should hold not one word of his supremacie which hee neuer had And there hee would cunningly subborne the Fathers to prooue Peters pretended supremacie and the Popes vsurped supremacie but all in vaine for he takes them by the sound not by the sense as shall appeare Christ willing in sifting them if he dare shew them And for the second part of the position hee falls quite from the proofe of the Popes Iurisdiction to the largenesse of his possessiōs which was neuer in quest●on as Sicilia Sardinia c. here you see his weaknesse that cannot draw out of the Lords quiuer one shaft in defence of the Popes Supremacie 12. Title VVhether my proofs of the Popes supremacie speake of the first fiue hondred yeares 12. YOu haue sondrie euidences that M. Fitzimon Rider is nether lawfull Iudge nor witnes In this article it appeareth particulary in his denying it that Scriptures Fathers Protestants especialy the Centuriasts in great prolixitie do professe Yf there had bene no other proofs thē is in my first title to this Rescript what thinke you are not they alone a stumbling block to humble our Rider into the synke of confusion I will but quote the Centuriasts shewing from age to age the Popes of Rome to haue had and practised supremacie of the whole world Cent. 2. c. 7. col 139. col 770. 778. 779. 781. 782. c. 10. col 1262. and add to the forsayd proofs in my title a few more that euen those who are loath to conceaue M. Rider to be what he is conuicted may be as loath to dowbt of the mater that he contradicteth For euen by

euangelium apud nos pessum iturum loco euangelij meros eosdemque egregios errores nos habituros All things demonstrat nothing more then that the gospell is perishing among vs and that in place of the gospell will remaine mere and enorme errors To the same effect it is to be vnderstoode that when the Puritans began to multiplie and dangerously to impugne parlament protestants so called because they frame their profession according to parlamētal statuts the sayd Parlament Protestants to make them odious reuealed principaly by two bookes all Puritan dissignes as well displaying what their consistorial discipline was as to what distructiō of all religiō it aymed One of these bookes was intituled the Suruey of the pretēded holy discipline the other dangerous positions By vertue of which booke and of others of lyke subiect as A treatise of Ecclesiastical discipline The Remōstrāce Quaerimonia Ecclesiae The 5. bookes of the lawes of Eccl. polit The aunswer to the abstract c. the cause of Puritans seemed so detestable to the state that euer since more and more they in their wysdomes thought good to suppresse them Now in the last yeare 1606. the vnquiet Puritans collecting all abuses that might be obiected in the profession of Parlament Protestants they haue dedicated their sayd booke to his Maiestie appealing to his oath by the great name of the Lord In praefatione pag. 23. that he would defend according his power all the dayes of his lyfe vnder the paine contained in the law and danger both of bodie and sowle in the day of Gods fearfull iudgment the altogether Puritanical liturgie of Scotland This booke in requital of the former Seruey against them they haue also named A Suruey of the booke of common prayer Now to our former purpose that Protestancie and Puritancie are together decaying is auerred in this new Suruey First Pag. 160. they relate that the late Archbishop of Canturburie vpon remorse vttered these woords Good Lord when shall we know what to trust to And that suddenly he was surprised with a palsie was caried from the cowrt and died shortly after A plaine demonstration that all their profession hetherto inuented wanteth all assurance and fadeth awaye lyke a smoake Breefely in the sayd Suruey the Puritans acknowledg their owne delusions also to be at a non plus saying The tymes decline fast to Poperie these tymes be declining to Poperie Pag. 52. Pag. 105. Wheras therfor their threats of our decaie are but lyke the dying candle which befor quenching casteth out greatest flamms in the name of God I. Ioan. 2.24 Galat. 1.9 that which you haue heard from the begining as S. Iohn aduiseth let it remaine in you To which S. Paul accordeth Yf any preach otherwyse then you haue alredie receaued be be accursed For yf you be wyse you will not for any threats exchange the suer fundation and rock against which the gates of hell shall neuer preuayle for the sandie foolish mans choise which for rayne falling theron for wynde blowing Mat. 16.16 Mat. 7.27 and fludds coming is ruined and surmounted Such as is this new inuisible profession by the rayne of mans will lyke a figure formed in sand defaced and by wynds of opposition and fludds of obliuion vppon the point to be vtterly ouerwhelmed So that their Church which they sayd first was inuisible because they could produce noe predecessors among Christians that euer had beleeued as they did being now againe by their owne confession vanishing out of sight this epigramme should be allowed to be after a short tyme true You hould your church inuisible til Luthers tyme with Luther also hath it lost all bewties prime And now inuisible it growes with Luther dead so inuisible the membres and the head Inuisible in dede they are as deepe in hell for vtter darknes darkneth all that there do dwell So first it was obscure as fetcht from lightles pitt t is so againe as drownd where Lucifer doth sitt 5. Reg. 1. 5. 9. 19. Yf your Ministers and Promotors lyke Adonias befor their tyme haue furnished them selues insolently they are not therfor greatly to be maligned For that sinners by impietie come often to welth Psal 72.12 the Prophet Dauid fortould saying Ecce ipsi peccatores abundantes in seculo obtinuerunt diuitias Behowld the very sinners and abownding in the world haue obtained riches Vpon which place sayth S. Augustin S. Aug. in Psal 72. Quot sunt quila sciuijs vt boues vaccae ad iugulum tendunt canentes saltantes parant iter ad infernum How many are they that by riot as oxen and cowes do march to their destruction and singing Prou. 1.33 and dawnsing do dispose their voiage to hell Prosperitie of fooles will destroie them sayth the prouerb For as followeth in the wyseman Sap. 14. 28. ether while they reioyce they are madd or truely they fortell lies In their madnes they blaspheme God and his saincts and calumniat his people In their predictions of lies among others may be numbred yf they tell that you will apostat from religion honor them as true pastors defie papistrie and that so doing you will doe according to the gospell They occasion me to remembre one Selius in Martial who inferred there was no God because forsooth that he often blaspheming him yet therby liued in greater prosperitie Nullos esse Deos inane coelum Martial li. 4. epig● affirmat Selius probatque quod se Factum dum negat haec videt beatum No God heauen vayne affirmed Selius and proud it for that he was prosperous denying them and alwayes glorious Cicero was able to say of such men Cic. l. 1. offic Adducuntur plerique vt eos iustitia capiat obliuio cum in imperiorum honorum gloriaeve cupiditatem inciderint The most of such are forgetfull of equitie when they fall into the aspiring desyre of rule honors and glorie So that they doe but according to the wont of arrogant people when they insult vpon vayne expectations I wish for their creditours sake that it be neuer heard what Caluin well experienced in the lyke of him selfe and his brethren writeth of his felowe Ministers I will faythfully translat part of his plaine declaration omitting the latin this tyme for breuities sake Alij ad captandum miri artifices nudatos relinquunt c. Caluin lib. de scandalis pag. 65. 66. Some of thē sayth he writing as I sayd of Ministers wonderfullie cunning to snatch leaue them forlorne in nakednes to whom they promised montains of gould Some what almes they receaued ether they spend it in whooring or play or other riot Some what they borrowed they consume lauishlye in idlenes And in these crimes they haue often assistance of their wiues Some vncleanlines insueth wherwith this awnswer shall not be defyled Only as I sayd I craue that our Ministers and Catchpowls defraud not their creditors Afflicted Catholicks 4.