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A03452 Obseruations concerning the present affaires of Holland and the Vnited Prouinces, made by an English gentleman there lately resident, & since written by himselfe from Paris, to his friend in England; Spiegel der Nederlandsche elenden. English Verstegan, Richard, ca. 1550-1640. 1621 (1621) STC 13576; ESTC S116935 38,409 134

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beloued of all these Sectes that in the end they might benefite themselues by that which most preuailed Wherupon in the Moneth of April in the yeare of our Lord 1566. in the Towne of Bruxells they exhibited vnto the L● Margaret aforsaid a supplication wherin they requyred a repeale or moderation of all rigorous Placartes or Lawes made concerning Religion Let now any man of reason or iudgment consider of the lawfullnes of this demaund and whether themselues that demaunded it could with good conscience moue the same the very mouing of the demaund it selfe plainely arguing little respect or conscience in the demaunders declaring plainely that the thing they sought was for their owne endes and that taking part at the last with that Sect which came to domimere aboue the rest as in the end one must needes doe they might sticke thereunto and so by flatte and open rebellion make vp their mouthes by the ouerthrowe of the ancient Clergy that was in possession of good 〈◊〉 and huinges to which all these new Sects did beare equal hatred albeit ech or them did neuerthelesse hate one another This request being as is aforesayd presented vnto the Lady Margaret in the moneth of April she promised them to send it into Spaine and to require from thence resolution and answere t●ereof The request she sent but the answere they attended not but gaue f●●thwith such hart and encouragment vnto the Sectaryes that within few weeks after the request was sent away they began to preach publikely in sundry Townes and Cittyes vpon a selfe assumed authority euen in despite of all Lawes and Magistrates and thereupon fell to robbing and spoyling of Churches throughout al the Countrey Vpon this the King of Spayne as a Prince most carefull of his Oath and of the good of his subiects was enforced to send into these Netherlands the Duke of Alua to take vpon him the generall gouernment which in so troublesome a world was too great a charge to be menaged by a woman This Duke ariuing in these partes in the moneth of August in the yeare 1●67 which was the yeare following the Lady Margaret resigned vnto him the gouernement and departed out of the Countrey The Duke now being placed in the gouernement began to learne out and informe himselfe what persons they were that had conspired togeather in this busines and had giuen the onset and countenance vnto these rebellious Sectaryes and Sacrilegious Church-robbers finding the Earles of Egmont and Horne and some other Gentlemen to be culpable of this crime they were apprehended and beheaded in Bruxels But VVilliam of Nassaw Prince of Orange the chiefest Ring leader of this sedition so soone as he heard of the ariuall of the Duke got him away into Germany and by his flight declared himselfe to be guilty as by experience afterward it proued Heere now it is to be considered whether in the sight and iudgement of the whole World the King of Spaine had not all right and reason on his side to vse such meanes as he did for the punishment of such capitall offenders and to imploy the subiects of one Countrey for the chastisement of the Rebells of another when he had no other remedy And whether any King or Prince liuing in the world could in honour or iustice winke at put vp such great and capital crymes and insolencyes committed by his subiects as is a generall and publique sacrilegious Church-robbery and the spoyling of the Clergy for the preseruation of whose priuiledges he had so solemnely taken his oath and to suffer the dooers quietly to passe vnpunished to let euery man openly professe follow such new and neuer heard of doctrine as his owne fancy should inuent or of his owne choice he should best like which euen those themselues that are at this day the successours of these first rebells in some of these Netherlands doe find so inconuenient for gouernement that notwithstanding their first profession that euery man ought to haue his free exercise or Religion according to his owne conscience they do prohibite to such as they like not The Duke of Alua hauing caused iustice to be executed first vpon some of the principall conspiratours and after vpon other inferiour offenders did at last in the yeare of our Lord 1570. by order from the King of Spaine cause a general pardon to be proclaimed wherof if VVilliam of Nassaw Prince of O●ange and his adherents had taken the offered benefite all further troubles had ceased but to the contrary they laboured both by secret seditious preachers as by other such like agents to spread abroad that the King of Spayne had broken the Countrey priuiledges as thogh the Countrey had had priuiledges that churches might forsooth be robbed no man called in question for it that euery man might professe what religion he listed were it neuer so naught or new the prohibiting whereof and the conseruation of Ecclesiasticall priuiledges to which the King was sworne being the only cause as to all the world was apparent why the sayd King was constrayned to send the Duke of Alua and Spaniardes into the Countrey which els had neuer beene thought of So as the true blame which the King of Spayne hath deserued is not for breach of priuileges but for seeking to restore priuiledges which his disobedient subiects had broken the which if he had not done then might he haue beene thought negligent and carelesse of his Oath but this the equity of his conscience would neuer permit I am not ignorant that some fooles haue made other fooles belieue that the King of Spayne at his departure out of these Netherlands did promise euery seauen yeare to returne thither againe and that the breach of his promise gaue cause sufficient for these his subiects to rebell This foolish allegation deserneth no answere Yet least some wiser people might be abused by fooles I ●ill leaue them to consider that there was no cause why his Maiesty should bind himselfe to any such condition his predecessors before him hauing beene free and the Countrey comming vnto him by right of succession as it did to them Experience hauing also shewed the inclination of the people to rebellion being grown proud by reason of their Wealth and new-fangled also by reason of the choyce of Religions in so much that the Duke of Alua saw it necessary to mayntayne certayne garisons of soldiers in castles conuenient fortifyed frontier places in the Countrey which he made known vnto the King of Spayne sent vnto him for prouision of money because he found the sayd King vnwilling to haue his subiects of this Countrey burdened with any more taxations thereabout But what successe heereof ensued shall appeare in the next Chapter CHAP. II. How dishonourable it was for Queene Elizabeth of England to take the Hollāders parts against the King of Spayn How she oppressed and impouerished her subiects for their sakes and endangered her owne Crowne and Kingdome BEFORE I
For God hath concluded all into incredulity that he may haue mercy vpon all 1. Tim. 2. vers 4. God will that all men be saued and to come to the knowledge of the Truth Tit. 2. vers 12. For the grace of God our Sauiour hath appeared vnto al men ● Pet. 3. vers 9. God is not willing that any perish but that all returne to pennance 1. Ioan. 2. vers 2. He to wit Christ is the propitiation for our sinnes not for ours alone but also for the whole worlds These are the places of Scripture alleadged by the Arminians for their opinion in this point Now followeth the doctrine of the Gomarian-Caluinists to the contrary to wit That God hath created some to damnation Iohn Caluin Instit l. 3. cap. 23. b. Seeing the disposition of all things is in the hand of God and seeing he hath the power of death of saluatiō he ordayneth then with his counsell and will that some are borne who from thei● Mothers wombe are certainly deliuered ouer vnto death to the end that by their destruction the name of God should be praysed The same Caluin vpon the 18. vers of the 9. cap. to the Romans The destructiō of the vngodly is not only foreknown but they are also purposely created to the end they should come to destruction or perdition Idem in his booke ad ●alumn Nebulon. pag. 867. Say you that it is not permitted vnto God to damne any body but such as haue done euill There are taken away out of this life an infinite nūber of yong children Cast now out your poyson against God who taketh away innocent childrē from the brestes of their Mothers and casteth them into the depth of hell in eternall death and damnation The● Beza in his little Annot vpon the Romans 9. vers 22. Let vs then againe be licensed to say with Paul that some men are of God the workmaister created vnto destruction Amandus Polanus on the 9 vers of the 13. of Osee Those whom God hath predestinated to eternall perdition he hath also created vnto eternal perdition al those thinges strengthen them to ●●●●nall perdition that strengthen the elect vnto saluation The same Polanus in his doctrine of the t●uth of Predestination pag. 139. sayth Abiection is an inward and eternall worke of God which in truth differeth not from the essence of God it selfe Fr Gomarus in his translated dispute of Predestination Thes 23. sayth Abiection is Gods predestination through which out of reasonable creations he hath in grosse and without fore-knowne limits according to his priuiledge and pleasure from eternity reiected some f●om eternall life an● hath also before hand orda●ned them to eternall death and con●empt The Contra-Remonstrants in the conference at the Hage pag. 53. ●he cause why God hath determined to elect some and not others is only his pleasure grace and not that he hath forseene that one should belieue in Christ not another The second point Whether God necessarily causeth man to sinne Places of Scripture alleadged by the Arminians for the negatiue Genes caD. 4. vers 6. The Lord sayd to Cayn why art thou angry and why is thy countenance fallen If thou do well shalt thou not receaue agayne but if thou doest ill shall not thy sin be present at the dore but the lust thereof shal be vnder thee and thou shalt haue dominion ouer it Psal 5. vers 5. 6. 7. Thou art no God that hath pleasure in wickednes the euill shall not conuerse with thee The foolish shal not stand in thy sight thou hatest all those that worke iniquity Thou shalt destroy them that speake lyes the lord abhorreth both the bloud-thirsty and the deceytfull man Psal 45. vers 8. Thou hast loued righteousnes and hated iniquity Therfore hath God thy God annoynted the with the oyle of gladnes aboue thy fellowes Isa 59. vers 2. Thy iniquities do separate thee thy God one from another and thy sinnes do hyde his face from thee that thou canst not be heard Ose 13 vers 9. Israel thou bringest thy selfe into vnhappynes for thy saluation standeth only with me Matt. 1 v●rs 21. Thou shalt sayth the Angel to Ioseph call his name Iesus for he shall saue his people from their sins Luc. 1. vers 74. 75. That without feare being deliuered out of the hands of our enemyes wee may serue him in holynes and iustice before him all our dayes Ioan 8. vers 44. The diuell when he speaketh a lye he speaketh of his own because he is a lyer the father therof Rom. 1. vers 18. The wrath of God from heauen is reuealed vpon all impiety and iniustice of Men. Galat. 5. vers 16 Walke in the spirit and the workes of the flesh you shal not accomplish Iac. 1 vers 13. 14. 15. Let no man when he is tempted say that he is tempted of God for God is not a tempter of euill and he tempteth no man But euery one is tempted of his own concupiscence abstracted and allured Afterward concupiscence when it hath conceaued bringeth forth sin but sin when it is consummate engendreth death 1. Pet. 3. vers 12. 13. The face of the Lord is vpon them that do euill things but who is he that can hurt you if you be emulators of good 1. Ioan 2. vers 16. All that is in the world is the concupiscence of the flesh and the concupiscence of the eyes and the pryde of lyfe which is not of the Father but is of the world Ibid. cap. 3. vers 8. He that comitteth sin is of the diuell because the diuell sinneth from the beginning for this appeareth the Son of God that he might di●●olue the works of the diuell The affirmatiue doctrine of the Gomarian-Caluinists to wit that God doth necessarily cause man to sinne Caluin Instit. lib. 1. cap 18. 2. I do confesse that God in the abiect doth worke through the seruice of the diuel but so as Sathan through Gods prouocation doth his worke Ibid. lib. 3 cap. 23. 9. The abiect sinning will be excused because they cannot auoyd the necessity of sinning seeing through the ordinance of God such necessity is layd vpon them But we feare that they are not therby rightly excused for the ordinance of God by which they complaine to be ordayned to perdition hath her iustice which albeit vnknowne vnto vs yet it is very certaine Theod. Beza against Castalio We confesse to be true that God hath predestinated all such as he listeth not only vnto damnation but also vnto the causes of damnation Zuinglius de prouid tom 1. cap 6. pag. 366. No man can say that the murtherer is excused because he hath killed through Gods prouocation for he hath sinned against the lawes But you will say he was prouoked to sinne I agree heereunto that he was prouoked to sin howbeit to the end that one should be saued and another hanged c. Ibid. pag. 365. One the selfe same wickednes as for