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A69617
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Two arguments in Parliament the first concerning the cannons, the second concerning the premunire vpon those cannons / by Edward Bagshawe, Esquire.
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Bagshaw, Edward, d. 1662.
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1641
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Wing B401; ESTC R16597
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chart._n and_o the_o many_o liberty_n which_o he_o grant_v to_o his_o people_n by_o the_o statute_n of_o 25._o edw._n 1.33_o edw._n 1._o and_o 34._o edw._n 1._o as_o likewise_o by_o the_o sharp_a law_n which_o he_o make_v against_o the_o pope_n exaction_n by_o the_o statute_n of_o carliel_n 35._o of_o his_o reign_n he_o be_v for_o all_o these_o right_o style_v vindex_fw-la anglicanae_n libertatis_fw-la in_o do_v thus_o he_o strengthen_v mighty_o his_o prerogative_n for_o prerogative_n and_o liberty_n be_v inseparable_a right_n 3._o caroli_n petition_v of_o right_n as_o king_n charles_n true_o observe_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o petition_n of_o right_n that_o the_o prerogative_n be_v to_o maintain_v the_o people_n liberty_n and_o their_o liberty_n strengthen_v the_o prerogative_n 1607._o in_o his_o parliament_n speech_n 1607._o and_o king_n james_n his_o father_n declare_v that_o king_n be_v give_v for_o the_o welfare_n of_o their_o people_n have_v this_o passage_n if_o you_o be_v rich_a i_o can_v never_o be_v poor_a and_o if_o you_o be_v happy_a i_o can_v choose_v but_o he_o fortunate_a etc._n etc._n and_o these_o observation_n prove_v true_a and_o be_v fulfil_v in_o this_o king_n for_o never_o any_o prince_n either_o before_o or_o after_o he_o be_v more_o victorious_a and_o successful_a than_o himself_o through_o the_o riches_n and_o welfare_n of_o his_o people_n who_o upon_o all_o occasion_n aid_v he_o in_o his_o war_n with_o their_o purse_n and_o fight_v his_o battle_n in_o their_o person_n till_o the_o 13_o year_n of_o this_o king_n the_o clergy_n have_v no_o jurisdiction_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n proper_o allow_v to_o they_o but_o in_o cause_n of_o matrimony_n and_o testament_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o fitz._n nat._n bre._n fo._n 41._o and_o by_o divers_a record_n which_o i_o have_v see_v about_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o king_n time_n but_o in_o the_o 13_o year_n of_o this_o king_n come_v the_o statute_n of_o circumspectè_fw-la agatis_fw-la 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two_o argument_n in_o parliament_n the_o first_o concern_v the_o cannon_n the_o second_o concern_v the_o praemunire_n upon_o those_o cannon_n by_o edward_n bagshawe_n esquire_n london_n print_v by_o george_n miller_n m.dc.xli_o the_o first_o argument_n concern_v the_o cannon_n mr._n speaker_n the_o order_n this_o day_n be_v to_o debate_v the_o legality_n of_o the_o cannon_n only_o and_o not_o the_o praemunire_n which_o divers_a have_v argue_v that_o the_o clergy_n have_v encur_v by_o make_v and_o publish_v these_o cannon_n but_o of_o that_o of_o the_o praemunire_n i_o shall_v not_o now_o speak_v but_o when_o a_o order_n be_v make_v thereof_o i_o shall_v declare_v my_o opinion_n i_o hold_v three_o illegallity_n 1._o in_o the_o cannon_n primae_fw-la classis_fw-la 2._o in_o the_o oath_n contain_v in_o the_o sixth_o cannon_n 3._o in_o the_o cannon_n secundae_fw-la classis_fw-la 1._o in_o that_o they_o be_v against_o clergy_n and_o laity_n without_o their_o common_a consent_n 2._o that_o 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episcopus_fw-la ac_fw-la sola_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la praesunt_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbiteris_fw-la text_n olim_fw-la idem_fw-la erat_fw-la presbyter_n qui_fw-la &_o episcopus_fw-la &_o antequam_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la studia_fw-la vel_fw-la schismata_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fierent_fw-la &_o disceretur_fw-la in_o populis_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la sum_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la autem_fw-la cephae_fw-la communi_fw-la presbiterorum_fw-la concilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la postquam_fw-la autem_fw-la decretum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la ut_fw-la unus_fw-la de_fw-la presbiteris_fw-la supponerctur_n ut_fw-la schismatum_fw-la semina_fw-la tollerentur_fw-la sicut_fw-la ergo_fw-la presbiteri_fw-la sciunt_fw-la se_fw-la ex_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la consuetudin_n esse_fw-la subiectos_fw-la ita_fw-la episcopi_fw-la noverint_fw-la se_fw-la magis_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la quam_fw-la dispensationis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la 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