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A66431 A vindication of A discourse concerning the unreasonableness of a new separation on account of the oaths from the exceptions made against it in a tract called, A brief answer to a late discourse, &c. Williams, John, 1636?-1709. 1691 (1691) Wing W2738; ESTC R7770 26,360 45

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