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A12923 The triall of the supremacy wherein is set fourth ye unitie of christes church milita[n]t geue[n] to S. Peter and his successoures by Christe and that there ought to be one head bishop in earth Christes vicar generall ouer all hys churche militant: wyth answeres to the blasphemous obiections made agaynste the same in the late miserable yeres now paste. Standish, John, 1507?-1570. 1556 (1556) STC 23211; ESTC S100970 78,260 315

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finde a cause that shal seme expediēt y t the Kinge in his owne person shall goe Wil they not then say it hath pleased y t King the Councel y e the King him selfe shal goe take one chiefe Duke with him as Peter had Iohn w t him May it not then be sayd the cause was so great they haue euē sende fourth the King haue not euen the verye consuls of Rome as histories declare ofte so bene sente was not therfore the consuls authoritye the higheste but to be counted equal with other yea haue we not a lyke example in scripture how the head of al Phinees was sēt .x. Princes with him in to the land of Galaad euē so Peter the head as moste mete and as most honorable was put therunto being so sent to Samaria yea note this that Peter euer vsed humble submission but where authoritie was required But further yet herein to speake what derogation were it now to the Popes authoritie if the whole college of Cardinalles did conclude that it were expediēt for his fatherhode now to come in to Englande Moreouer note wel concerning this obiectiō that in thactes Lukes chiefe purpose was to describe y e pere grinatiō of him self of Paule so y ● not one worde is there of Peters tarieng nor of his stallaciō at Antioche nor of y e deuidīg thapostels into sūdry cūtres nor whō they cōuerted nor what martirdōe they suffered ¶ The .xiii. obiection In y e xv of thactes in y e questiō had about the legals Iames had y e chefe preeminēce for the coūcel was cōcluded by hī c. The aunswere S. Peter made S. Iames Bushop of Ierusalē as Anacletus Peters disciple successour saith after him Chrisostome cōfirmeth y e same with these wordes Peter y e Master of y e whole world made Saint Iames Bushope of Ierusalē Do ye thinke then that Saint Iames would take vpō him to be aboue his head but now I pray you iustlye pouder wey the place Actes the .xv. and ye shal fynde that both Peter did first as head say his mind yea though it were in S. Iames see and also that which Peter then said toke place shortly after yet doth S. Iames euen then confirminge Peters sayinge with the prophetes testimony What maketh it then against Peters authoritie that S. Iames approuing all that Peter had spoken added somthīg to Peters wordes which addicion yet shortly after was quite taken awaye and neuer since obserued that is to saye to abstene from bloud c. yea may not y e chiefe of a councel first geue his sētence as Peter did here yet after him an inferior may say something more whyche shalbe thought to the whole coūsel better for y e time doeth this any thing againste thautoritie of the chiefest Peters iudgemēt was y t the heathen people should be quite deliuered frō al the Iewishe burdens so shortlye after it was fullye concluded though for a shorte time S. Iames counsel was taken as appeareth by y t Paule then sone afterwrote to the Corinthians bye al that cōmeth into y e shambles eate all thinges c. to Tite all meates be cleane vnto the pure to the Romās no meate is to be coūted cōmen or vncleane ye whyche eate not misiudge not them that eate Againe to the Collosians let no mā iudge you in receiuīg your meate c Wherby wel appereth that S. Peters sentēce was chiefe as spokē by the chiefe But herin yet more to speake note wel y t Peter ofte amonges thappostels vsed suche modestye humilitie and in so doinge did folow Christes cōmaūdemēt which bad y e higher they were the lower more humble they ought to be y t he dyd not euer put his high authoritye in executiō but as S. Ciprian saith y t Peter whome Christe made head of al and vpon whom he builded his church whē Paule dyd contende with him aboute circumcision dyd not reuenge or boste him selfe that he was the Prince or chief of al as he iustly might haue said but stil he humbled him selfe But god forbid y t we should ascribe this his hūble gentil submittinge to the derogation of his highe power authoritie but thinke y t euer whē Christes glorye or the profit of y e flocke required it then he vsed his ful and high authoritye as appereth in the punishīg of Anany Saphire Simon Magus c. And yet furthermore in the primatiue churche it was rather time as is in the .viii. responsion to cal people in to Christes flocke then to set euerye man in his owne place or to talke then of rules and orders or of Peters authority that was to be done afterwarde the people beinge first instructed in y e faith Thē was rather y e time to seke for gethering thē for gouernīg And if we loke well we shall fynde not onlye in the ghospel before Christes ascēsion but also afterwarde in thactes that Peter behaued him selfe as head and Prince euer when time required and occasion serued He spake for al he answred for al he for al said to Christ beholde we haue forsaken al and folowed thee what rewarde therfore shall we haue againe he sayde to Christe speakest thou this parable to vs or vnto all when Christe asked whether they woulde goe awaye also from him Peter alone made answere saying to whom shall we goe thou hast the wordes of lyfe None dyd thus but he and that bycause he was heade Howbe it as yet whiles Christ was present with them in his naturall shape for in y e forme of breade he is euer stil presēt it was not meete that his vicare should greatlye medle But after thascension Peter firste stode vppe as heade and made the sermon at the chosynge of Mathias and sayde oportet we must chose one c. And after when they had receyued tholy ghoste and were illuded of the people he alone spake and preached conuertinge them to the faythe .3000 people at once Also when he Iohn came into the temple at y ● .ix. houre of prayer he alone sayde to the lame creple that whych I haue I geue the in the name of Iesus arise c. The lame mā asked almes of both and Peter bade loke vpon both but he sayd not in the name of bothe we haue neyther golde nor siluer y t whiche we haue we geue thee c. But as head he in y e singuler number as hauinge a singuler authority said yea though Iohn one of the chiefe of the appostels were present I haue neyther golde nor siluer y t whiche I haue I geue thee c. And this declareth him to be head Likewise he alone for all as head made the oration to pacifie the people and he alone as prince did strike Ananye and Saphire Whiche of all the apostels in the presence
muche more large power conteyned For therein is comprehended the fulnesse of all ecclesiasticall power and dignitye whiche euen then in the xvi of Mathue Christe gaue onlye to Peter sayinge tibi to thee and through hym to all his successours He promissed theym onelye to him but his promissinge or his sayinge as I saide was his doinge Eius dixisse est fecisse that it is so by goddes helpe I shall nowe trye by sufficient testimonye But first note that when christ had spoken of the churche and that the gates of hell shoulde not preuayle agaynste it he no further continued hys promisse to the church but turned then his speache to Peter sayinge I wil giue to thee the keyes so that the churche receyueth them throughe Peter to whom in his own person then they were geuen as to the heade and foundacion of the churche vnder Christe But now let vs heare testimonies hereof ¶ Tertulian libro de prest haer Was there anye thinge hid from peter as ye haue it twise before whiche was called the stone of the foundacion of the church Which had the keyes of heauens geuen him and power to lose and binde both in heauens and in earthes Tertulian here speaketh of that Christ sayde to Peter after he had geuen him the blessynge Mathue the .xvi. that which I do nowe thou knowest not and yet he graunteth there that Peter had receiued the keyes before which can be no time els but euen when the promisse of geuinge them was made as wil appere by conferrynge the textes the places and the times together ¶ S. Ambrose also in the xx of Luke Peter which came later first entred into the sepulchre as he which had receyued the keyes of the kingdome to open vnto other Marke here Sayncte Ambrose saythe likewise that the keyes were geuen to Peter before the passion whyche must nedes be euen at the promisse Math .16 or els neuer as shal appeare by reding the processe of the ghospell S. Ambrose also in libro de Isaac c. Christ sayd to Peter thou canst not folowe me nowe c. but he had before geuē to him the keyes of the kingdome of heauens c. Loe all this was before the passion Therefore we must nedes graunt that he gaue the keyes when he promyssed them seinge none can shew any other time of geuing them ¶ S. Aug. con 124. de tempore In declaringe the geuinge of the keyes Mathew the .xvi. he saith Christ gaue the keyes then to Peter and therfore he saith tibi dedi claues regni celorum I haue geuen to thee the keyes of the kingdome of heauens the like S. Aug. hathe tract 50. in Ioa. et li. 2. contra gau dentii epistolam S. Hilari in psa lii S. Hilari saith that christ toke not away the keyes from Peter whē he denied him here we see S. Hilari iudgeth that the keyes were geuen before the passion but that must be when he promyssed them Mathew the .xvi. c. S. Hilari in psal .cxxxi. Christ saide to Peter come after me sathā or aduersarye to whome he had geuen the keyes before But that must nedes be when he promyssed them seing this foloweth euen streight after in the same chapiter the .xvi. of Mathew Chrisostome in explicando propitius esto tibi c. Math .xvi. He saith O Peter what is this thou which haddest a heuenlye reuelacion and the keyes geuen to thee of the heauens arte thou so sone fallen so sore By al these auncient writers it appeareth y t the keyes were geuen whē they were promessed and that Christ gaue them presentlye in saing I wil geue thee the keyes And this hath caused that euer since y e keyes iustlye haue bene put vnto all Peters successours to none other As for the power to minister the sacramēt of penaūce and to forgeue sinne was geuen after the resurreccion both to the Apostels and to the .27 Disciples as a parte of the keyes and yet as vnder Peter he beynge the head But who I praye you is so foonde to saye that the .27 Disciples receiued the keyes equallye with Peter ¶ The .xi. obiection Christ said to al indifferentlye what so euer ye shal bynde vpon earth shal be bounde in heauen and what so euer ye lose vpon earthe shalbe losed in heauen ¶ The answere That power geuen Math .xviii. was as appereth by the processe but to excommunicate the wicked and to lose thē from it againe if they were trulye penitent whyche power Paule caused the Corinthians to execute vpon y e fornicatour And here note wel that it was not without great cause that Christe vsed here the plurel number saynge what so euer you bynde c. For one dyd neuer thys at that tyme onelye Peter the heade excepte but it was geuen to the churche and rulers of the congregation beyng for that cause gathered together as ye rede .i. cor .v. It is in no place of the gospel wherby any one may excōmunicate onely Peter for him and hys successours except which beīg head had it geuē to him alone with the keyes and therefore he alone put it in executiō vpō Anani vpon Saphire vpō Simō Magus c. How be it if a man should graunt that y e power of losing and bindinge Mat. xviii was spokē to the apostels as before Mat. xvi to Peter yet must we nedes confesse as appeareth in the answers to y e .iii. last obiectiōs that to Peter as to y E head the power was geuen to other but as vnder him stil kepinge obseruing a due order which order is broken if Peter the other Apostels and the .72 disciples or the successours of euerye of these had like power geuen in al thinges ¶ The .xii. obiection The .viii. of thactes Peter and Iohn were sent by thother apostels to Samaria but y e senders seme to be greater then they whiche be sent c. ¶ The anwere When by Philip the dracon the people of Samaria were cōuerted to y e faith by y e cōsēt of all y e apostles the holye ghoste being y e chief author Peter as whose authoritie was greatest was chosen as beinge thought moste mete to goe to confirme them with tholye spyrite the matter and case then requirynge the chiefe power What did this againste Peters authoritye or to the derogation of his high power and preeminece It semeth rather to sette fourth his excellent priuelege bycause none was thoughte yea euē to the holy gost which was the chiefe sender so mete as Peter he being the head of al to goe to destroye the great member of the deuil Simon Magus a thinge of passinge difficultie which required Peters presēce This was an argument of tharians the father sent the sonne ergo the sonne was lesse then the father How be it Herode sent y e .iii. Kinges to Christ yet he was not greater then they May not y e King and the Counsel of a Realme
yeares ordeyned Euodium there after whom folowed Ignatius euen then in the primatiue church by the apostels it was ordeyned for y e third chiefe see and Alexandria for the second bicause Peter appoynted his dearely beloued disciple Marke there to be Bishoppe and yet bothe it and Alexandria subiectes to Rome bicause both they there receyued theyr prerogatiues dignities euen of Peter y e head bishop which had his see by y e holye ghoste there appointed saieth Chrisost as was coūted the chefe city of al y ● world And where as he w t his death cōfirmed the prerogatiue dignity thereof appointinge also before his Martirdome y t S. Clement shuld succede him in that highe place to receyue the keyes sayth S. Clement him selfe writinge to S. Iames which Peter then said he had before receiued of christ This vndoubtedlye is the catholike fayth So that no scriptures wrasted ought to moue a christen mā frō this the faithe of y e church receyued before al scriptures were writtē This is y t Paule sayth if any mā preach any other ghospel to you thē y t which you haue receiued cursed be he Paule neyther sayde nor did meane if any man preche any thing but y t which Mathue Marke Luke or Iohn haue writtē as for some of thē then had not written but he did meane if anye preache agaynst thappostolicall tradicions thoughe they were neuer writen cursed be he Al the consente of the apostels scholers disciples successours to this day thꝭ haue taught and shall we now bring al into questiō Yea shal we condemne all and inuent newe of oure owne as men haue done in this realme of late yeares most wretchedly Sayncte Austen sayth that the succcession of Bishoppes in Peters see is one of the .4 causes y t kept him in the catholike fayth Ireneus agreeth with the same S. Cipriā affirmeth that all heresies springe forth of the denial and refusinge the see of Rome to be head Anacletus a holye Martir disciple to S. Peter and successour to him in that see sayth that y e see of Rome had his preeminence and power aboue all not geuē by the Appostels but euen by Christe hym selfe This doctrine euer hathe bene taught of all the writers from the beginninge with one consente bothe of the Latines and the Greciās Sayncte Clemente Anacletus Ignatiꝰ Policarpus Dionisius Papias with many other which all were in thapostels time after them Ireneus Tertulian Origen Ciprian Athanasius Eusebius Ambr. Hierō Aug. Chriso with thousandes since them whyche haue euer kept y e same line and succession receiuinge thys doctrine as it were by hand one of another Whether shal we folowe al these holye learned fathers being saintes in heauen or els geue eare to a rablemēt of rascal herytikes verye limmes of the deuel ¶ The .xix. obiection Christ before Pylate refused an earthlye kingdome saying his kingdome was not of this worlde yea whē they would haue made him a kinge he fled awaye ¶ The answere This maketh nothinge against the authority of S. Peter or his successours y t Popes holines Christe came not to reigne in a tēporal kingdome No true christen man euer beleued or taught the contrarye He came not to depriue kinges of their worldly dignities and honours He came to establish a new kingdome whych is spiritual for the saluation of the soule and here of Saint Iohn speaketh saing thou hast redemed vs with thy bloud made vs a kingdome to oure lorde and we shall reigne vpon the earth This kingdome Christ did ordeine and made Peter head here of his successours for euer so that euery worldly Kinge or Prince if he wil be in this kingedome muste be subiecte to the head of the same or els shall he neuer come to the kingdome of heauen which is thonly cause of comming in to this spiritual kingdome here As for infidels and heathen Princes whyche wyl neither thone nor thother I speke not of Christe although he were Prince of y e kinges of y e earth as S. Iohn saith and as mā not onlye as God Kinge of Kinges and Lorde of Lordes his vesture wherin that was written signifyed the humanitye that couered the godhed yet when they woulde haue made him a Kyng he fled and no meruel for he came not therfore His onlye comminge was to redeme mā with his bloud beynge obediente to his father euen vnto the vilest death so that he came not to beare here in the world an earthlye scepter for that he sayde to a certaine yonge man requiringe right at his handes againste y e iniuries of his brother O thou man who appointed me to be iudge or deuider betwene you and your brother as though he had sayd that is not y e cause of my comminge at the leaste waye principallye to meddel with suche ciuile matters but it is to suffer death for mans raunsome Howe be it now to note a worde or .ii. although Christe in his owne person came not to take in hand anye earthly kingdō being notw tstāding as mā king of al kinges yet he would his disciples that is to say al that trulye professe him be he of the laitie or clergy Kinge Byshop or other for al suche be Christes Disciples iustlye and godlye to vse and exercise all rules and offices here in the world both kinges Byshoppes Dukes Lordes Ladyes both men and womē riche or pore high or lowe ¶ The .xx. obiection Christe to declare how he and his should bee subiectes bade geue to Cesar that which was Cesars and to God that whyche was Goddes c. ¶ The answere By these wordes of Christe there is no derogation against his chief minister here in earth no nor anye power geuē to the laytye here by to be ouer the cleregye For here the wicked Pharises came craftely being determined whether he hadde sayde yea or naye to haue had a great vauntage against him ether as a traitour or els as a dissembler demaunded not whether they were bounde to paye tribute or whether he could iustlie receiue it but whether they might geue tribute to Cesar or no he being a straūge prince which thīg thei thought to be against the fredō of their lawe Nowe Christe whyche saw al thinges perceuing their deceytfull hertes sayd neither it was lawefull nor not lawful but only bad geue to euery one that whych was his right to haue And this is euery christen mans dutie to do But yet further here in to speake ī case Christe then had geuen commaundemēt to the Iewes as his people to haue payde tribute to Cesar or to other forē Princes his commaundemēt had bene no more againste the Clergie then againste anye other of the laytye be he King or Emperour if he be a member of Christes church and a shepe of his flocke ¶ The .xxi. obiection Christ bad go paye tribute whyche should seme to make
S. Ciprian nameth y e church of Rōe peters see and calleth it the principal churche whereoute the vnitye doth springe Li. i. epist epis iii. ante calcem S. Amb. also bearethe testimonye hereof saying we think it was not without a cause that tholy apostels Peter Paule did suffer martridome ī one day in one place vnder one tirād In one day y t thei might come together vnto christ at one time one place y t Rome should lacke neither of thē vnder one persecutor y ● either might fele like crudeliti The day was appointed them for their merit the place for their glory the persecutour for their vertue What place did they suffer in In the citye of Rhome whiche was the chiefe and head cytye of all the nacions So that there shoulde reste the heade of all holinesse where before was the head of al supersticion there the princes of y e churches shoulde remayne where before y e princes of y e Gētils did dwel Haec amb in cō in natali petri et pauli cō 67 Agayn S. Ambr. saith Peter went forth in the night sawe Christ mete him goinge into y e citye to whō Peter saide lorde whither goest y u christ aunswered I go to Rome there to be crucified againe And thē Peter knew y t christes aūswer did perteine to his crucifyinge or death Haec ambr li. 5. epistolarū in or̄one cō auxentiū And this sam ī effect w t much more hath Egesippꝰ li. ● excid hiera cap. 2 an olde writer euē sone after y e apostels time ▪ yea he being a Greciā which would haue ben loth to haue testified any thing to the glory of Rome if the verye trueth had not compelled him y ● to haue done s Hierome likewise in catalogo illust viro rum in titulo pe● intitulo pauli in titulo philonis saieth Peter prīce of the apostles after that he had bene byshop in Antioch c. came to Rome the seconde yere of Claudiꝰ the emperour and kept y e see there .xxv. yeres euen vnto the last yeare of Nero vnder whom he beyng crucified did suffer mertirdom Orosius thistoriographer affirmeth y e like li. 7. ca. 4. v. And so doth Euse li. ii ca. xiiii etiā in li. croni And holy Bede our coūtremā in his cronacle testifieth y e same of s Peter s Hie againe saith in the place recited Philo fel into gret acquaītāce loue with Peter in the city of Rome c. Ireneus moreouer scholer to s Iohns disc Pol. li. 3. ca. 1. 3. sheweth that peter was byshop ī rome so do chriso hꝭ abbreuiator the ophilat in cōmentariis epistolae poster ad Timo. Yea here now final lie to cōclude s Peter him selfe in his first epistle .v. cha speaking vnder y e name of Babilō for so he calleth ther rome bicause of superstition idolatry then vsed amongest y e infidels sheweth y t he wrot y t his epistle from rome as al authors doe declare whiche do interprete that epistle of Peter and so do Tertu li. con Iudeos pag. 128. Sainte Hierome in catalogo virorū illustr titulo Marci papias disciple to S. Iohn euāg and bishop of Hierusalē Eusebius li. 2. ec his ca. 15. with many mo I nede not here to bring in certayne germayn writers which expoūding the fornamed place of Peter affirme him there to speake of Rhome vnder the name of Babilon where not without great blasphemy ofte they rayle agaynste all godlinesse and yet they be not ashamed to say and write yea and putte forth in printe thousand volumes wherein they denye y t Peter euer was at Rhome ¶ The .xlv. obiection Christ bade peter fede hꝭ flock saying Pasce but this word pasce be tokeneth seruice not preeminence It is I say a word of seruice not preeminence The answere Christe in y t place vsed .ii. wordes twise he saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whiche is pasce fede but after he addeth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is both rege et pasce rule or gouerne and fede And so in the Ps god biddeth rule them w t an irne rod and in y e Actes Paule willeth them to take hede to them selues and ●o al the flocke amōge whome y e holy ghost had made them bishops to rule 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the church of god Also in Peters epistle rule ye the churche of Christe though it be fede in the damnable translacions 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Therfore now to cōclude seinge euerye man knoweth that to rule or gouerne is thoffice of superiours heades and rulers we maye well and truelye aunswere that to Peter and to all his successors was geuen not only commaūdement to fede but also to rule his flocke And for this saith Paule which was but an inferiour to Peter will ye that I shal come to you with the rod of correctiō Rebuke sayth he to Timothe and checke in season out of season But of this ye haue more in y e .2 probation ¶ The .xlvi. obiection Ezechias that good kinge as hauing hygh authoritye ouer all geuen vnto him euē by god sayde herken o ye Leuites and priestes be ye halowed make ye pure and cleane the house of our lord put away al wickednes and all vncleanes from the holy place c. ¶ The answere There were in Iuda by goddes permission manye wicked kinges whych did most filthyly pollute gods howse with Idolatrye and but fewe good whych wyth all theyr myghte did seke goddes honour Among whych fewe kyng Ezechias was one of the chyefe But if ye marke the text wel ye shall not fynde that he dyd vsurpe or take vppon him the priestes offyce but wyth his temporall sworde did defende it in all godlye ordre c. The .xlvii. obiection Mokst cōmōly at al times causes of heresies haue ben debated before Emperours kinges princes both in this Realme also in other places of christēdome As appeareth euidentlye by manye chronicles ¶ The aunswere Good Kinges and Princes haue ofte made lawes and ordeined sharpe statutes to preserue the churches ryght therwith as mainteners and defendours thereof but not as chiefe authours or heades of the churche ¶ The .xlviii. obiection Kinges haue graūted many priueleges preeminences and immunities to the clergi wher by appereth plainlye the Kinges authoritye to be aboue theirs c. ¶ The answere Thereby appereth plainlye that all suche godlye Princes were euer redye with all their power to defende Christ his churche and with al their indeuore to set vp his glorye ¶ The .xlix. obiection In tholde testamente the priestes were in subiection to the high Princes And firste to speake of Aaron he euer toke Moises for hꝭ souereigne lord The aunswere Moyses was a figure of Christe as Aarō was a figure of Peter his vicare yea and bothe Moyses Aaron were priestes as y e