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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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priest_n and_o votary_n he_o stein_v the_o authority_n of_o s._n hierome_n s._n chrysostome_n 165._o pag._n 165._o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n and_o diverse_a other_o learned_a and_o ancient_a father_n as_o disgrace_v lawful_a matrimony_n and_o the_o marriage_n of_o widow_n and_o widower_n he_o say_v s._n hierome_n in_o catalogo_fw-la witness_v that_o tertullian_n be_v a_o marry_a priest_n 166._o pag._n 166._o the_o place_n will_v show_v this_o untruth_n albeit_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o he_o be_v marry_v before_o he_o be_v priest_n and_o so_o be_v diverse_a other_o as_o spiridion_n s._n gregory_n nazianzenes_n father_n gregorius_n nyssenus_n and_o certain_a other_o he_o say_v s._n hilary_n bishop_n of_o poitiers_n be_v marry_v and_o that_o he_o proove_v by_o a_o apocryphal_a epistle_n to_o one_o abra_n his_o daughter_n these_o toy_n be_v vain_a and_o more_o fabulous_a than_o esop_n fable_n so_o he_o make_v prosper_n the_o bishop_n of_o rhegium_n a_o marry_a man_n upon_o a_o 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