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A04214 A defence of a treatise touching the sufferings and victorie of Christ in the worke of our redemption Wherein in confirmed, 1 That Christ suffered for vs, not only bodily griefe, but also in his soule an impression of the proper wrath of God, which may be called the paines of Hell. 2 That after his death on the crosse he went not downe into Hell. For answere to the late writings of Mr Bilson, L. Bishop of Winchester, which he intitleth, The effect of certaine sermons, &c. Wherein he striueth mightly against the doctrine aforesaid. By Henry Iacob minister of the worde of God. Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624. 1600 (1600) STC 14333; ESTC S103093 208,719 214

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that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n god_n wrath_n howbeit_o touch_v the_o sense_n we_o disagree_v in_o 2._o main_a point_n q●●●_n the_o i●●●_n the_o q●●●_n i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n you_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o such_o affliction_n as_o other_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o cruel_a world_n for_o 1●_n for_o pa._n 1●_n you_o think_v all_o affliction_n whatsoever_o small_a or_o great_a &_o towards_o whosoever_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath._n but_o that_o be_v not_o so_o except_o in_o a_o most_o unproper_a speech_n to_o the_o godly_a their_o affliction_n both_o small_a and_o great_a be_v god_n fatherly_a and_o gracious_a chastisement_n and_o no_o effect_n of_o his_o proper_a wrath_n as_o shall_v appear_v further_o hereafter_o howbeit_o you_o must_v observe_v here_o my_o 3._o limitation_n which_o i_o set_v down_o in_o the_o befor●_n the_o befor●_n quaestion_a 1._o i_o mean_v he_o 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