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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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32._o see_v also_o the_o curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mert._n cap._n 1._o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr dubium_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o the_o dead_a receive_v help_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a church_n by_o the_o healthful_a sacrifice_n and_o by_o alm_n the_o second_o 24._o second_o de_fw-fr civit_n dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o c._n 24._o non_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v true_o that_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v unless_o some_o sin_n be_v remit_v in_o the_o future_a life_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o speak_v most_o constant_o of_o temporal_a pain_n which_o the_o soul_n of_o some_o man_n sustain_v after_o their_o dissolution_n from_o the_o body_n 16._o wherefore_o i_o reflect_v now_o upon_o d._n fields_n assertion_n and_o be_v amaze_v to_o behold_v such_o a_o repugnancy_n betwixt_o these_o thing_n viz._n 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