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not_o only_o for_o their_o not_o believe_v in_o christ_n but_o also_o for_o their_o unmercifulnesse_n idolatry_n adultery_n and_o other_o crime_n math._n 25.41.42_o rom._n 2.5_o 9_o second_o the_o sin_n of_o unbelief_n cleave_v unto_o all_o adam_n child_n as_o other_o sin_n and_o shall_v be_v impute_v as_o well_o as_o the_o sin_n of_o lust_n or_o any_o other_o iniquity_n three_o to_o believe_v be_v not_o in_o the_o will_n or_o power_n of_o man_n but_o be_v the_o gracious_a gift_n of_o god_n to_o such_o as_o he_o have_v ordain_v unto_o life_n eph._n 2_o 8_o act_n 13.48_o again_o they_o allege_v 116._o that_o adam_n by_o that_o transgression_n deprive_v himself_o of_o god_n favour_n in_o that_o estate_n wherein_o he_o be_v in_o paradise_n and_o notwithstanding_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n have_v by_o his_o siâ—_n procure_v this_o judgement_n curse_v be_v the_o earth_n for_o thy_o sake_n &c_n &c_n gen._n 3._o thus_o adam_n bring_v himself_o and_o all_o his_o posterity_n the_o earth_n and_o every_o creature_n in_o it_o to_o vanity_n and_o bondage_n of_o corruption_n rom._n 8.20_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o this_o estate_n be_v all_o adam_n son_n beget_v and_o bear_v so_o that_o by_o adam_n sin_n vanity_n corruption_n and_o death_n go_v over_o all_o etc._n etc._n so_o infant_n have_v original_a corruption_n as_o other_o creature_n have_v yet_o those_o that_o die_v and_o have_v corruption_n by_o adam_n sin_n shall_v not_o be_v cast_v into_o hell_n fire_n answ._n a_o fellow_n murderer_n traitor_n that_o be_v apprehend_v by_o the_o magistrate_n imprison_v keep_v in_o fetter_n and_o affliction_n his_o land_n and_o good_n confiscate_v etc._n etc._n plead_v he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n because_o he_o have_v suffer_v for_o his_o crime_n loss_n of_o liberty_n good_n etc._n etc._n but_o will_v this_o plea_n save_o he_o even_o such_o be_v the_o plea_n of_o thâ—se_a evil_a man_n for_o all_o man_n be_v in_o adam_n fallâ—n_v from_o god_n and_o traitor_n to_o his_o majesty_n child_n of_o wrath_n &_o servant_n of_o sin_n and_o satan_n because_o god_n have_v curse_v the_o earth_n for_o their_o sake_n cast_v they_o out_o of_o earthly_a paradise_n make_v the_o creature_n subject_a to_o vanity_n and_o themselves_o subject_a to_o sorrow_n and_o misery_n therefore_o they_o dâ—serue_v not_o to_o die_v in_o hell_n if_o these_o vain_a man_n may_v be_v judge_n but_o we_o know_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v according_a to_o truth_n against_o all_o evil_a doer_n he_o tell_v we_o the_o wage_n of_o sin_n be_v death_n but_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n be_v eternal_a life_n through_o christ_n rom._n 6.23_o where_o eternal_a life_n be_v oppose_v to_o death_n show_v that_o eternal_a death_n be_v the_o wage_n due_a for_o sin_n and_o what_o sin_n be_v be_v there_o that_o deserve_v not_o hell_n 2._o whereas_o they_o say_v adam_z by_o his_o sin_n deprive_v himself_o of_o paradise_n it_o be_v true_a but_o if_o they_o mean_v earthly_a paradise_n only_o they_o err_v from_o the_o truth_n for_o by_o his_o sin_n he_o be_v depriuâ—d_v also_o of_o the_o heavenly_a paradise_n to_o which_o there_o be_v no_o restore_v but_o by_o christ_n luk._n 23.43_o reu._n 2.7_o and_o as_o himself_o so_o all_o his_o posterity_n that_o sin_v in_o he_o rom._n 5._o three_o so_o where_o they_o say_v all_o his_o posterity_n be_v subject_v to_o vanity_n and_o corruption_n it_o be_v true_a but_o not_o all_o the_o truth_n unless_o they_o understand_v such_o corruption_n as_o peter_n speak_v 2._o pet._n 2.12_o which_o be_v eternal_a destruction_n and_o then_o they_o yield_v the_o cause_n but_o they_o mean_v not_o so_o but_o corruption_n such_o as_o be_v in_o beast_n bird_n etc._n etc._n wherein_o they_o go_v quite_o astray_o for_o beast_n and_o other_o brutish_a and_o senseless_a creature_n be_v not_o sinner_n as_o all_o adam_n child_n be_v rom._n 5_o 12.19_o sin_n be_v not_o but_o in_o reasonable_a creature_n only_o as_o angel_n and_o man_n neither_o be_v any_o creature_n subject_a to_o eternal_a torment_n but_o sinner_n only_o other_o creature_n when_o they_o perish_v there_o be_v a_o end_n of_o they_o and_o of_o their_o misery_n with_o they_o but_o they_o that_o perish_v in_o their_o sin_n have_v no_o end_n of_o their_o misery_n but_o it_o be_v eternal_a math._n 25.46_o mark_n 9.45.46_o wherefore_o they_o do_v not_o well_o to_o expound_v rom._n 5._o by_o rom._n 8_o because_o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o the_o same_o but_o of_o divers_a thing_n and_o estate_n in_o those_o two_o chapter_n four_o take_v that_o which_o they_o say_v and_o it_o overthrow_v they_o for_o how_o shall_v adam_n sin_n bring_v all_o his_o posterity_n unto_o death_n but_o by_o their_o guilt_n in_o adam_n sin_n if_o it_o make_v not_o they_o sinner_n the_o scripture_n which_o they_o former_o allege_v ezek._n 18_o teach_v that_o the_o child_n shall_v not_o die_v for_o their_o father_n sin_n now_o see_v many_o infant_n die_v daily_o it_o prove_v they_o all_o to_o be_v sinner_n because_o death_n be_v the_o wage_n of_o sin_n rom._n 6_o 23._o gen._n 2.17_o 117._o at_o length_n they_o come_v to_o answer_v rom._n 5._o with_o this_o perverse_a doctrine_n this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o by_o adam_n sin_n all_o his_o posterity_n have_v weak_a nature_n rom._n 8.3_o by_o which_o when_o the_o commandment_n come_v rom._n 7.10_o thâ—y_o can_v obey_v and_o live_v but_o sin_n and_o so_o die_v till_o when_o they_o be_v alive_a without_o the_o law_n so_o say_v the_o apostle_n vers_fw-la 9_o and_o thus_o be_v verify_v that_o all_o both_o jew_n and_o gentile_n be_v under_o sin_n etc._n etc._n read_v on_o the_o scripture_n and_o you_o may_v evident_o see_v that_o neither_o this_o nor_o any_o part_n of_o god_n word_n be_v speak_v to_o or_o of_o infant_n answ._n this_o be_v not_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n for_o he_o say_v not_o they_o have_v weak_a nature_n but_o that_o all_o have_v sin_v and_o through_o the_o offence_n of_o one_o many_o be_v dead_a many_o be_v make_v sinner_n rom._n 5_o 12.15.19_o which_o be_v more_o than_o weakness_n of_o nature_n and_o proneness_n to_o sin_n second_o in_o rom._n 8.3_o it_o be_v say_v that_o it_o the_o law_n be_v weak_a through_o the_o flâ—sh_n and_o so_o can_v save_v any_o man_n which_o word_n these_o man_n wrest_v as_o if_o it_o mean_v adam_n child_n weak_a which_o thing_n though_o it_o be_v true_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o that_o which_o be_v speak_v of_o in_o rom._n 8.3_o three_o when_o the_o apostle_n say_v in_o rom._n 7.9_o that_o he_o be_v alive_a without_o the_o law_n this_o contradict_v according_a to_o their_o sense_n the_o other_o scripture_n in_o rom._n 5_o 12._o that_o all_o have_v sin_v and_o be_v dead_a the_o apostle_n in_o rom._n 5._o speak_v of_o thing_n as_o they_o be_v in_o rom._n 7.9_o he_o speak_v of_o thing_n as_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o be_v not_o indeed_o paul_n be_v alive_a in_o his_o own_o conceit_n think_v himself_o able_a to_o keep_v the_o law_n as_o 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sin_n whereupon_o he_o apply_v the_o evil_n which_o he_o do_v to_o siâ—ne_v dwell_v in_o he_o v_o 17.20_o and_o this_o inhabit_v or_o indwell_v sin_n be_v that_o original_a sin_n whereof_o we_o treat_v which_o paul_n for_o a_o while_o can_v not_o discern_v to_o be_v in_o he_o as_o all_o natural_a man_n discern_v it_o not_o but_o count_v it_o a_o idle_a term_n and_o think_v there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n till_o by_o the_o law_n he_o come_v to_o discern_v it_o and_o to_o lament_v it_o four_o it_o be_v here_o to_o be_v observe_v how_o the_o anabaptist_n â—grant_a all_o man_n have_v weak_a nature_n and_o can_v obey_v and_o live_v but_o sin_n and_o die_v how_o come_v this_o to_o pass_v by_o adam_n