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A43754	A brief relation of the irreligion of the northern Quakers wherein their horrid principles and practices, doctrines and manners ... are plainly exposed to the view of every intelligent reader : together with a (brief reply) to some part of a very scurilous and lying pamphlet called.	Higginson, Francis, 1617-1670.; Fox, George, 1624-1691. Sauls errand to Damascus.	1653 (1653)	Wing H1953; ESTC R34465	75,893	103

paper may be kept as an evidence either with or against me A large Petition being read wherein was something against Quaking and Trembling Just. Pears How comes it to pass that people Quake and Tremble Jam. The Scriptures witness the same condition in the Saints formerly as Dauid Daniel Habakkuk and divers others Just. Pears Did they fall down Jam. Yea some of them did so Coale David said all his bones were broken but they were whole Iam. So are these now Coale Moses trembled for he saw the face of God and all Israel Iam. Did all Israel see the face of God that crosseth the Scriptures Coale They saw his Glory I shall see the Lord with these eyes putting his fingers to his eyes Iam. They must first be made spiritual he cannot be seen with carnall eyes for he is a Spirit and no flesh can see God and live Coale That light by which I am justified is a created light Iam. That light by which I am justified is not a created light Coale That is true Just. Pears To the Word What sayest thou to the Scriptures are they the Word of God Iam. They are a true Declaration of the Word that was in them who spoke them forth Higginson Is there not a written Word Iam. Where readest thou in thy Scriptures of a written Word The Word is Spiritual not seen with Carnal eyes but as for the Scriptures they are true and I witness them true in measure fulfilled in me as far as I am grown up Just. Pears Why dost thou disturb the Ministers in their publicke worships Iam. I have not disturbed them in their publick worships Just. Pears Why doest thou speake against Tythes which are allowed by the States Iam. I meddle not with the States I speak against them that are hirelings as they are hirelings those that were sent of Christ never took Tythes nor ever sued for any wages Just. Pears Dosh thou think we are so beggerly as the Heathens that we cannot afford our Ministers maintenance We give them it freely Jam. They are the Ministers of Christ who abide in the Doctrine of Christ. Just. Pears But who shall judge how shall we know them Jam. By their fruits you shall know them they that abide not in the Doctrine of Christ make it appear they are not the Ministers of Christ. Just. Pears That is true A reply to the Title of that lying Relation called Diverse particulars of the Persecutions of Iames Nailer by the Preists of Westmerland THus is the second part of this Pamphlet ushered in with such an Inscription as if Iames Nayler had been a real Martyr of Jesus Christ and not an open Enemy to him and his Gospel might well have served for the Title page of his Martyrdome You see Reader their language and how bloodily they charge us in the very entry of their Relation The term Priest which they give us here and all over by way of contempt may discover to the world what is the rancour of their souls against us However it be grown the common reproach against us in the mouths of those that know not God yet we hope the Lord will teach them better language in his season I am credibly informed that a little while ago one of them railing with that and other language against a Minister went from him home and died presently What ever scorn they intend to heape upon us by that word we do not own it nor ever did as a Title proper to the Office of the Ministers of the New Testament or to their persons further then as they are Christs Disciples who hath made all whom he hath loved and washed from their sinnes with his blood Kings and Priests to God his Father Rev. 1. 5. 6. And in this sense if themselves do but once become Priests they will become companions of Devils for ever And for Persecution the Lord forbid that we should be persecutors as they render us to the world to be while our selves are designed as the Objects of it by some if their power answered their wills and do already suffer the persecution of the Tongue in as high a degree as ever did Ministers of Christ in any Age. The Lord forbid that we should lift up our hand or open our mouth against the least of Saints We know what reward our Saviour hath promised to him that shall give to drink unto one of his little ones a cup of cold water in the name of a Disciple Matth. 10. ult and on the other hand what severity of judgement he hath threatned to those that do offend them Matth. 18. 6. We do not therefore pretend a jus Divinum to persecution as one I heartily believe most falsly and maliciously accuses the Ministers of Lancashire to do but do from our souls rather wish to be sufferers of it our selves then defiled with the least tincture of the guilt of that red sin of persecuting others If to be stedfast in the profession of the Truth to warn and charge those that are committed to our charge who we hope shall be our crown and joy in the day of the Lord to take heed of seducers if to labour to keep them from being robd of the salvation of their souls if to satisfie the desire of some of our people whom we heard continually wishing that we would have some conference with these men if to contend for the Faith against those men that are the open enemies of it and to petition for their liberties when they are consined If this be persecution then we must confess our selves persecutors and deserving blame for it but if these actings do not savour of a spirit of persecution we can then challenge the whole World to prove us guiltie And for Naylers sufferings which the unfaithful Relator calls persecutions he knows or might as well as we that that little restraint onely which he suffered as an evil doer was by the Order of the Justices and we know that we did not so much as desire his sufferings in the least and that we sought and desired nothing but the preservation of Religion and Peace among us and that those Authours and Fomentours of the disturbances of this poore Countie might return to their habitations and callings and there according to the Apostles rule study to be quiet and do their own businesse And must we upon this account stand charged with Persecution But the Lord the righteous Judge though we should alrogether hold our peace will one day plead for us against those that have hated us without a cause and are our enemies because they see us friends to Truth and Peace The Lord lay not this sin to their charge A Reply to that part of the Relation which concerns Master Coales discourse with Nailer near Kendall THe relator in Sauls Errand to Damascus saith That Iames Nayler meeting at a house near Kendall the Priests in the Town having notice raised the Town of Kendall against him but being long in

gathering the meeting was done But spies being set on the steeple and other places notice was given which way Iames past from thence and coming downe towards Kendall two Priests with a Justice c and an exceeding great multitude of people following them met him c. 'T is true Mr. Coale met Nailer at the time mentioned near Kendall and there was no other Minister with him then Master Turner the Schoolmaster came to them about a quarter of an houre after But that they raised the Town is a notorious falshood That they set spies on the Steeple is false again That they set spies in other places is another nntruth That any gave notice which way Nayler went is another That they met him with a great multitude is a sixt lie in the Narrative already How easily is that cause discovered that hath a lie in its right hand and falshood for its Foundation Mr. Coale was earnestly pressed by some that feared the Lord in Kendall and whose spirits were troubled to see the disorders of these men to take the oportunity to go up to widdow Cocks to speak with Nayler being a Ring-leader of that way which at last he was though unwillingly perswaded unto All that accompanied him was but Mr. A. and 6 more nor was any more near till meeting with divers of that party coming towards them they were informed the meeting was done Yet lighting so patly on Nailer himself for he was with the multitude that came from the meeting he thought it necessary though not very convenient there to have a little discourse with him Upon occasion of which stay so near the Town the people as is usual in cases of Novelty in an houres time or less were flockt about him in great multitudes but a great part of them was Naylers company that came before him and with him and followed him from their meeting We should admire to find such gross lies against men did we not see their lies against the Lord more shameless and more impudent And we wish Nayler or whosoever else relates such things to tremble before the presence of the Lord that will shut out every lyer from his Kingdome and to false things will give sharp arrows of the Mighty with coals of Juniper But no marvel such lyes may steal forth in press where they may hope to meet with so much credulity from some as may make them currant when Thomas Willen that lives in Town one of that fect had the impudence to tell Mr. Archer that the bell was rung to give notice of Naylers coming If necessity require these slanders may be proved to be such by hundreds of Evidences The Particulars of that conference M. Cole had with him were these Mr. Coale told him the Lord had put it upon his spirit and he had a message from the Lord to deliver to him His best answer was this Hast thou received a Message from the Lord to speak to me and I not know it Mr. Coale was somewhat astonished with such a blasphemous Expression and told him how like he spake to Zedekiah the son of Chenannah 2 Cron. 15 that said to Micaiah Which way went the Spirit of the Lord from me to speak to thee but this he wholly passeth over Mr. Coale then demanded of him by what power he did exercise such Tyranny over the bodies of such poore creatures viz. in their quaking fits To which he answered much to the same purpose his Relation hath it Mr. Coale still pressed him with it Nayler said Dost thou acknowledge it to be done by a Power To which Mr. Coale answered not one word which he forgeth as answered to that But said Yes I do well know whose coming is after the power of Satan with all signYes and lying wonders c. This was all the account he could get of Nayler concerning these horrible pangs the bodies of men women and children are taken with at the time of their speaking Mr. Coale told him It was not by the Power of Christ or his saving work in conviction of sin and horror because of it lying in and upon the Soul and Conscience and not the body This the Relator falsly perverts and 〈◊〉 the Priest said When Christ comes he comes to torment souls and not bodies which with his Answer to it are both 〈◊〉 Mr. Coale proceeded becavse he could give no account of it himself to give 〈◊〉 an account thereof and to prove it to him Not to be from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 work of God but from the spirit of darkness and delusion which he mentions not at all Amongst other things proposed to convince him of this this was one That the constant Operation of this Quaking in all was immediately to fill their souls with a crowd of all damnable and destructive doctrines and an absolute turning away from Christ in all his Wayes and Truths and Ordinances Amongst others he instanced in what he specifies in his Relation to which Nayler answered as is there expressed and asked him further if ever he heard him aver any of those things M Coale told him he never saw his face before and so could not hear them from himself but he knew them to be the Principles of his follower He said what was that to him And whereas the Relator saith Mr. Coale was not able to prove any one particular is known to the contrary For so the Lord ordered it that to put to silence the foolishness of evil men among Naylers followers present was one Strickland with whom and one Thomson Mr. Coale had had private discourse before who plainly denied to him the use of Teaching of Bibles the duty of children to their Parents and of any man to a Magistrate and that in the presence of many more besides himself When Nayler called for proof Mr. Coale took Strickland by the hand and presented him to Nayler as one of his followers and one that held those principles and had told him he received those Doctrines from Nayler Nayler again said what was that to him but could not be got either to a confession or denial of those wicked Principles Mr. Coale proceeded further to charge him with what he knew to be a Principle with them all and which Nayler had so publickly professed that he thought he durst not deny it and that was this Nayler had affirmed That every man in the World had a Light within him sufficient to guide him to Salvation This Mr. Coale disputed with him till he rnn him to this absurdity That if an Indian were there that had never heard or read of Christ that he knew Iesus Christ as well as any of us At which the people making some noyse and Mr. Coale being partly satisfied as having witnessed to the Doctrine of Truth in these Particulars against those men And the croud increasing their conference ended Now the Relator to adde yet sin to sin saith he charged him for holding out a Light to convince of sin which all have

in him as man as he had before affirmed Nayler replyed Christ God and Man is not divided separate God and Man and He is no more Christ Christ God and Man is every where I askt thee said Mr. Pearson Whether thou believest Christ as He is Man to be in thee I witnesse Him in me said Nayler and if I should deny him before men He would deny me before my Father which is in Heaven How do you mean said Mr. Pearson that Christ is in you Doe you not mean that He is in you Spiritually Yea Answered Nayler Spiritually By Faith saith he you mean or how else By Faith saith Nayler Why what difference is there then in this point said Mr. Pearson between the Ministers and you Nayler replyed the Ministers affirmed Christ to be in Heaven with a Carnal Body but He is with a Spiritual Body Which of the Ministers say so saith Mr. Pearson The Minister of Kirkby-Stephen being present rose up and said thus I confess I said Christ was in Heaven with a Carnal Body I was willing to own a Truth though in course Language I look upon it as an unmeet Expression and should not have used it had I not bin drawn to it upon this occasion Discoursing with Nayler at Mallerstang about the Reality of Christs humane Nature I asked him Whether he did beleive that Iesus Christ now Glorified in Heaven was a true real Man as well as true God When according to his manner he laboured to speak as ambiguously as he could and would plainly affirm or denie nothing Urging him with the same question again with some little alteration I asked him Whether he did believe that Iesus Christ was now in Heaven in a body of flesh to which when I pressed him to answer plainly Thomas Aray one of Naylers companions said to me thus Dost thou imagine that the body of Christ in Heaven is a Carnal body To which I answered presently thinking they had understood English language Thomas take the word Carnal not as it is used in the Scripture in opposition to that which is Holy or Spiritual but according to its natural and proper signification as it signifies fleshly and so I do believe the Body of Christ in Heaven to be a Carnal body that is as I said a body of flesh Naylers relation saith he perceived him to be offended because he had told of his saying And said Friend I had not accused thee had I not bin asked what was the difference between the Ministers and me for I am not come to accuse any It is true some such words he immediately spoke But that the Minister of Kirkby-Stephen was offended at him is an untruth He knew no cause he had to be offended at him but saw cause rather to pity his ignorance M. Pearson was here saying something manifesting some desire that some of the Ministers there present should discourse with Nayler about some of his erroneous opinions but in regard it was then night and they had much business to do before they rose it was thought unseasonable Coll. Briggs then asked him if he had not bin a Member of a Church about Saurby Nayler answered he was a Member of an Independent Church at Wood-Church Coll. Briggs told him that he had heard he was excommunicated out of 〈◊〉 Church for some blasphemous opinions and akt him if it was not so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he knew not what they had done since he came forth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 was not to his knowledge One that had it from Mr. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 who is Pastor of that Congregation at Wood-Church told a friend of mine lately that it is very true that Nayler was there Excommunicated for his blasphemous Tenets Coll. Briggs then asked him further if he did not write a letter to one in Lancashire wherein he told him that if he hoped to be saved by that Christ that died at Ierusalem he would be deceived Such a letter Nayler did write 〈◊〉 one Henry Holme containing these wicked words in it And when he was taxed for them though he could not deny it yet he would not at first confess them till Coll. Briggs askt him if he would deny his own hand To which he repliedno if he might see it Coll. Briggs told him he thought he could procure the letter Nayler desired it might be kept as a witness against him Coll. Briggs asked him what was his reason to use such a cursed txpression Nayler to season it had this grain of salt in readiness an ill shift is better then none If saith he I cannot witness Christ nearer then Iesalem I shall have no benefit by him but I own no other Christ but that who witnessed a good confession before Pontius Pilate which Christ I witnesse suffering in me now There were 2 Petitions presented to the Iustices subscribed by the hands of many Gentlemen Ministers and others of known integritie and honestie occasioned by the troublesome insolent behaviour of this people Especially their gross disturbance of whole Congregations in time of publick worship and because it may be some satisfaction to the Reader I shall here adjoyn the true Copy of some of them which I have by me To the Worshipfull the Justices of Peace for this Countie of Westmerland The Humble Petition of several Gentlemen Ministers of the Gospel and others friends and servants to Jesus Christ his Gospel Truths and Ordinances and the general weale of this Common-wealth and Nation SHEWETH THat in the late Wars We or most of us did expose Lives Liberties Estates and Relations with all other Personal advantages in the just defence of Religion and Liberty in concurrence with and maintenance of the just defence of Religion and Liberty After the prosperous Effects whereof we expected the settlement of the grand ends of our engagement and so much the more as being the promise of the Parliament the vows of their affection the price of our Prayer purses hazards losses banishments and the blood of many thousands our fellow servants in the work of God freely sacrificed in the Quarrel of this Nation What hath bin done in the settlement of our Rights Peace and wholesome Lawes we blesse God for and the Parliament as his Instruments nor can we but acknowledge what hath bin done by them in the Cause of God as their Acts against Adultery Fornication Swearing Drunkenness Sabboth-breaking Promoters of heretical Doctrines against Ranters or Blasphemers may the Lord increase the number of these things Yet so it is that in this County several persons Proselites of one George Fox and James Nayler do in the times of our Assemblies ordinarily in a way of contempt and scorn come in amongst us with their hats on at time of Prayer or Singing use in our Congregations some of them violent actions in the time of Sermon or Prayer or singing cry out aloud with horrible clamours slanders abuses reproaches against our Ministers to the stirring up of woefull tumults evident disturbance of the work