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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17588	A solution of Doctor Resolutus, his resolutions for kneeling	Calderwood, David, 1575-1650.	1619 (1619)	STC 4364; ESTC S107403	44,245	58

vncovered at this table which we do not at common tables but we do it for veneration and not for adoration VVe sit with our heads uncovered when the word is read but not when it is preached to distinguish between the voyce of God and the voyce of man At this holy action the words the symboles the rites are all divine and Christs own words rites and symboles his voyce soundeth through all the tables of the world the symboles are the Princes seales and our celebration is nothing else but a repetition of the first institution and the authentike instrument written over again VVe use not kneeling civilly wheresoever we use the uncovered head but kneeling is the gesture of adoration both in civill and religious uses The uncovering of the head doth noth spoyle us of the liberties and prerogatives of a table sociall admission to it and familiar entertainment at it nor breaketh not the order and frame of the institution but kneeling is guiltie of all these enormities as I have sayd If commodity make custome and custome make decencie section 4 then kneeeling must be condemned as an undecent gesture The Doctor measureth the time of the celebration by his own form when he dispatcheth the communicants with some few words and not by the institution But make the time of celebration never so short yet kneeling is more painfull then any other gesture and consequently not so decent because not so commodious To what purpose serveth all this discourse seeing kneeling is not urged as a table-gesture but as a gesture of adoration Swarez sayth that kneeling which is a note of adoration may be made an act of a penitentiarie for the pain which is joyned with it But we consider not now the pain but the purpose of it in this argument For never man yet thought that kneeling was the fittest table-gesture neither have we ever heard any nation never so barbarous use it He sayth kneeling is more universally received in the reformed Kirkes then sitting If he meane of the Lutheran Kirkes that universalitie is not to be regarded The best reformed Kirkes as they have abandoned the opinion of the bodily presence so have they the gesture of kneeling yea all the Lutherans do not consent to the adoration of Christ in the Eucharist as Illyricus and his followers because they say Christ is to be adored onely where it is his will to be adored As for the Anglican Kirk I deny that the body of that Kirk doth approve kneeling howsoever they be compelled by their Kirk representative to practise it If we should follow examples we must look to voluntaries It is no great commandation of kneeling that it was practised 400 yeares under the Antichrist and howbeit we wer not able to designe some time when another gesture was in use it will not follow that it was in practise in all ages before VVe are not bound to shew the behinning of every corruption VVhilest the husband man was sleeping the evill one did sow his tares among the wheat which he perceived not till they were growen up Yet we will be more liberall and for further satisfaction we use to give an instance of an other gesture which was in use to wit standing at the act of receiving for the space of 500. yea an thousand yeare after Christ and they cannot produce one expresse authentike testimony of kneeling for the space of 500 yea of a 1000 yeare after Christ. And to testifie ancient standing we have yet the custome of Christians in the Orient Honorius it seemeth ordained not kneeling at the elevation of the Masse but a reverend inclination of the body howbeit aftervvard it turned to kneeling But vvhether Honorius ordained kneeling at the elevation and whether kneeling in the act of receiving went before kneeling at the elevation or followed after is not prejudiciall to our cause seeing both vvere bred under the Antichrist and no authentick testimony can be alledged of the gesture of kneeling for a 1000. section 5 Yeares section 6 He admitteth standing on the Lords day and other dayes wherein they did not kneele in time of publick prayer but yet upon other dayes saith he as they might pray kneeling so they might communicate kneeling But he doth not produce so much as one example out of all antiquity The examples alledged by us for standing in the act of receiving are generall and for every day as well as for the Lords day The example alledged by himself doth not specifie any day The testimony of Dionysius Alexandrinus and the vvords of Tertullian are confounded in Perth assembly through the Printers fault which by the vvay I vvish the Reader to mark The ancient Kirk changing sitting into standing judged sitting not necessarie It is true Neither do we hold it absolutely necessarie and as for the change vve are not to imitate them herein for they adulterated the forme of the institution many wayes mixing the vvine with water giving the communion to Infants taking the Sacrament home to eate it in their private houses as may be seen in the most ancient vvriters VVe ought to take heed not vvhat any hath done before us sayth Cyprian but vvhat Christ vvho vvas before all did vve must not follow the custome of man but the truth of God And if it be not lawfull sayth he to break the least of the Lords commandements farre lesse is it lawfull to violate so great commandements belonging to the Sacrament of the Lords Passion and of our redemption Calvin findeth great fault with them and sayth that the ancients went neerer the Iudaicall manner of sacrificing then Christs ordinance and the course of the Gospel vvould permit And a little after he saith that if vve think this supper the supper of the Lord and not the supper of men let us not move a naile bredth from it for any authority of mē or prescriptiō of yeares And Tossanus saith that the changing of ceremonies in the Lord supper instituted by Christ and heaping up of other ceremonies divised by mans vvill-vvorship vvas the beginning of error anent the supper and vvas no small occasion of superstition The ancient Kirk judged not standing the fittest gesture for prayer for if they had so judged then they vvould have enjoyned standing at prayer upon other dayes as vvell as upon the Lorde day They stood on the Lords day not because it vvas the fittest gesture for prayer but for signification to signifie their joy for Christs resurrection but kneeling they judged the fittest gesture for prayer as may be seen in the questions attributed to Iustinus The ancient Kirk standing at the receit of the Sacrament ye see then judged not the gesture of prayer the fittest gesture in the act of receiving the Sacrament CHAP. III. Kneeling agreeth not best vvith pietie THe Doctor will now prove kneeling to agree best with pietie But if it agree not best with the decencie of a table but overthroweth the

there is no precept how much more may our Church interchange sitting never commanded and never or very seldome practised in Gods publick worship with kneeling a gesture commanded by God and most agreeable to this Sacrament VVe have already made manifest that at the religious Feasts under the Law at the Sacrament of the Supper under the new Testament they did sit In the time of the preaching or prophesying it vvas likewise the ordinary custome to sit both in the Synagogue of the Iewes and the Assemblies of Christians 1 Cor. 14.30 Acts. 16.13 Act. 20.9 Luke 4.28.29 Act. 13.16 Luke 10.39 I think no man vvill deny but the ministration of the Sacraments and the preaching and hearing of the word are parts of Gods publick vvorship If by publick vvorship the Doctor do meane the solemne publick prayers onely then he speaketh not to the purpose Neither doth Calvin say that kneeling in time of prayer is simply a divine ordinance but he sayth it is so human a tradition that it is also divine It is divine in so farre as it is a part of that comelines which is recommended to us by the apostle The Prophets upon singular occasions as they were moved by the spirit exhorted the people to come and bow down before the Lord. But these exhortations were not precepts for then Christ had sinned if he had not kneeled in the times of thankesgiving but we have already manifested that he sate Then David likewise had sinned when he sate before the Lord. 2. Sam. 7.18 To expone sitting standing were catachresticall indeed To expone sitting remaining vvill not agree with the text To devise a mysterie for that sitting Peter Martyr sayth it is without a warrant If there had been a commandement to kneele in time of prayer then Iehosaphat and all Iuda standing before the Lord with their yong ones their vvives and Children in time of prayer 2. Chron. 20 5.6.13 had sinned and the ancient custome of the Iewes to pray standing had been unlawfull Of this custome see Perth Assembly It was the office of the Levites to stand evening and morning to give thankes and praise the Lord 2 Chron. 23.29 The tribe of Levi is sayd to be separated to stand before the Lord to Minister to him and to blesse in his name VVhat the ancient Kirk did in changing kneeling in time of prayer into standing insignification of their joy for Christs resurrection and that so precisely that it was accounted a great sin to do otherwayes on the Lords day betwixt Pasce and Pentecost is nothing to us who are not to follow them in such conceits Paul kneeled betvvixt Pasce and Pentecost the time forbidden by the ancients as vve may see Acts. 20.36 and had no minde of such devises The Doctor alledgeth that our first reformers established sitting onlie as a fit ceremony for the time to abolish the opinion of transubstantiation But this he alledgeth against his ovvn knowledge and I am sure against the truth For in the first book of discipline in the second head thereof it is ordained as a perpetuall gesture because most agreeable to the institution In the parliament holden anno 1572. it was inacted that if any man did communicate otherwayes with the Sacraments then as they were then truely ministred in the reformed Kirkes of this realme should be holden infamous unable to sit or stand in judgement persew or beare office or to be witnesses or assisers against any professing the true religion Shall vve now have a new act in the contrarie for this English guise or rather old Papisticall manner In the second confession of Faith vve detest all allegories rites signes and traditions added to the true ministration of the Sacraments without or against the vvord of God Did any preacher preach otherwayes till now And at Perth Assembly the Doctor confessed that yet still the former order vvas best but he would please the King and avert his Majesties vvrath from this Kirk P. Martyr vvriting to the Polonian Ministers and Professors anno 1556. VVilled them to pluck up superstition Idolatry by the roots if othervvayes they plucked onely at the Leaves the Fruits and the Flowers it vvould spring up again as it had done in some places already I know vvhat I speake sayth he And this he spake vvhen our neighbour Kirk revolted to Poperie in Queen Maries dayes But chiefly he desireth them to make a syncere reformation in this Sacrament vvhere there are saith he Pestilent seeds of Idolatry which except they be taken away the Kirk of Christ vvill never be decored vvith pure and sincere worship And again he saith as the Sacraments ought not to be contemned so men ought not to give them greater honor then the institution will suffer Bucer in his censure vvritten at the desire of Cranmer sayth that if vve love God and our Saviour Christ none of these things vvords or gestures vvill find or keepe place amongst us vvhich have appearance of affinitie vvith the impieties abhominations brought in by the Antichrist upon the holy mysteries or vvhich may be taken hold of to make up any any commendation of them howbeit unjustly and vvithout just cause offred A vvhole Synod did condemne this gesture for the danger of Bread-worship as may be seen in Festus Hommius harmonie of the Belgick Sinods Our first Reformers upon the same considerations abandoned this gesture simpliciter and not for a time onely He pretendeth a needlesse Feare of Prophanitie and contempt which may by time creep in by our former order If it creep in it is to be amended and the Form and order of the institution is not to be broken or adulterate for remedy of the same For as Bucer saith neither the perversnes of the wicked can vitiate the things which the Lord hath instituted neither ought vve to intermit them for their abuse But I appeale to the consciences of all true Professors if ever they did see any exercises so gracious powerfull and heavenly as were our communions It is vvell known what graceles confused cold disordered communions vve had insundry parts this last Yeare where kneeling was put in practise Some complained for vvant of the Bread some for vvant of the wine Mr Galloway quarrelled some of the communicants for not kneeling vvhen he vvas in the very act of delivering the element Such prettie dialogues had we at the last communion as was matter of much talk afterwardes He purged our Kirk in this book before of Arrianisme and now he maketh much adoe as if the maintainers of a table-gesture did savour of Arrianisme or plead for equalitie with Christ. VVhen the Arminians were like to prevaile in the Low-countries then did the Doctor every where reason for them This is the man vvho maketh a counterfeit out-cry as if our Kirk vvere in danger of Arrianisme howbeit he doth understand there is no appearance of any such matter more novv then vvas from the beginning of the