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A93094 The famers fam'd or An answer, to two seditious pamphlets, the one intituled The just man in bonds, the other A pearle in a dunghill, written in the behalfe of that notorious lyar, and libeller John Lilburne. Also a full reply, with a confutation of certaine objections devised by the trayterous author of a seditious and unparraled [sic] libell, intituled A remonstrance of many thousand citizens, and other free borne people of England, to their owne House of Commons, &c. Wherein the wickednesse of the authors, and their abettors, the destructive courses of the sectaries, and their adherors is amply discovered. So that all (not wilfully blind) may cleerely see, that they are men stirred up by mans enemie, the Devill, as to ruine themselves, so this poore nation, that yet lies bedrid of her wounds lately received. And ought to be avoided as serpents, to be contemned as abjects, and to be delivered over to Satan, as blasphemers and reprobates. / Written by S. Shepheard. Sheppard, S. (Samuel) 1646 (1646) Wing S3163; Thomason E349_5; ESTC R201022 25,285 34

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that they have not in all things their swinge and sway that they could wish out of vengeance the Kingdome were on fire while they warmed themselves by the light on t and therefore they leave no projects unattempted no Falsities unsaid to raise Discord and Division And to make his argument invincible as he supposeth he insinuateth that maine ground of this more then unnaturall Warre was to abolish illegall and tyrannicall power which is most true but doth it therefore follow that we having cut the throat of Innovation should forsake the worship of God or that ' cause we have crushed to pieces Aristocraticall or Tyrannicall power we should not now make use either of Law or Justice GOD FORBID If yee did intend to expose this Kingdome to the miseries of war for no other end but that one kind of Arbitrary government Star-obamber Chamber and High-commission power might be abolished and others of that kind established over us why would ye not tell us that we might have both spared our lives and estates Now steeres the Pamphleter another course more irregular then before now he exclaimeth on the house of Commons that they did not give advertisement that having puld down one Arbitrary power they would erect another the rancorous and evill minde of the Pamphleter how many waies trieth he to worke contention and confusion because Lilburne is not countenanced in his pernicious waies as he hath been formerly too too much now they are netled to the purpose and they care not what they affirme and therefore forsooth the House of Commons ' cause they not opposed the House of Lords in their legall tryall and just censure of Lilburne are taxed that though they have abolished one kind of Arbitrary power they are props of another and therefore the trayterous Pamphleter seemeth to lament that they had not more timely notice thereby to have prevented the great effussion of blood and losse of their estates All these questions and affirmations had not been thought on had JOHN LILBURNE been walking abroad But if ye would either free your selves from suspition or us of these just fears then shew your selves such Worthies as doe truely deserve the title by using this happy opportunity which God hath put into your hands and making us Free men it being the maine cause for which we used and intrusted you and as a present signe of your fidelity and magnanimity let all your reall intentions in the generall appeare by the exactnes and speedinesse of your delivery of your own and his Countries saithfull servant JOHN LILBURNE from prison with all due reparations I told you before the cause of all this trouble in print was for * Namely Lilburnes b● soundly ch● sed for his orbitancy his slande● and lies 〈◊〉 stir●ing up people both words and 〈◊〉 to Re●●●lion agains● PARLI●MENT 〈◊〉 God 〈◊〉 preservers Lilburnes imprisonment which here the Pamphleter plainly confesseth and saith that if they will cleare themselves of the feares the Pamphleter and his complices hath that then they should set at liberty Lieut. Col. LILBURNE And then all Acts for the good of the Subject are ratified and confirmed and then they shall truely deserve the title of Worthies and be Worthies indeed Into what a further labyrinth of misery were poor England involved if the Parliament should allow and take the advice of these malevolent Idiots certainly although we are greatly impoverished and brought low then we should not faile to become the most wretched and abject people in the world which evill God divert An answer to a seditious Pamphlet lately in print entituled * A PEARL IN A DVNGHILL Written in Defence of that famous Libeller Li●ut Col. LILBURNE SUre the Author of that Dunghill * piece before answered was ●he just man ●onds the Author also of this scurrilous Pamphlet entituled A Pearle in a Dunghill save that this is a little more finely spun then the other He begins thus ●o be 〈◊〉 in an ill se is wo●s●●n cower Although most States and Statesmen be of late turnd upside downe like a wheel● yet this worthy * valiant and publique spirited Gentleman unto whom this Nation is as much bound to at least as unto any one all things considered is the very same man both in principles and practice Rom● wa● 〈◊〉 whom the Bishops so long imprisoned in the Fleet by a most cruell and barbarous censure caused to be weary of his life which censure they procured in the Star-chamber against him and so he was whipt gag'd and pinni●n'd and in his close imprisonment almost famished and murthered This this is the man that thinketh he indeed hath proved and that with one Argument of Lilburnes quondam sufferings that he hath been faithfull to God and his Countrey to the death in times past and in the same stedfastnesse remaineth to this day now therefore that his Country may see and know how deeply they stand ingaged to the said Lilburne let us search diligently and shew First the eminency of the party the sufferer Secondly the cause of his so suffering Thirdly the quality of the paine suffered The discovery hereof I know he will exclaime against and say it is a breach of MAGNA CHARTA according to his wonted manner First then for the eminency of his person we must know that it is even JOHN LILBURNE during his minority an Apprentice of London and being of an insinuating spirit he ende●red himselfe and wan the love of some silly Schismaticks who for his strange yet empty expressions deemed him one inspired So that by that time he came out of his time and had served his apprentiship who but Lilburne of note amongst the Sectaries his approbation desired and his counsels followed in all things Secondly the cause of his suffering during the imprisonment of Doctor Bastwicke by the rigorous censure of the Prelates divers persons affecting the said Doctor out of their love resorting to him amongst the rest one of them tooke John Lilburne with him as his associate after plenty of cheere Dr Bastwick to solace his guests read to them his merry * A Book● laying 〈◊〉 the pride 〈◊〉 leachery 〈◊〉 abominal 〈◊〉 acts of the 〈◊〉 ●●ts in 〈◊〉 Lettany which highly pleased them all Lilburne also hearing the said Lettany read and knowing that Whatsoever was written in defiance of that power then generally hated would be very acceptable he desired of Dr Bastwick to have a copy of one of them with which he would travell beyond Sea and cause it to be printed not doubting to be enriched by it the winde of this fancie transported him over Sea accompanied with a fellow whose fidelity he doubted not there he printed many Bookes and by them got much money selling them even at what rates he pleased afterwards comming into England bringing with him many Bookes hoping to have a new Mart the fellow that accompanied him was his betrayer who gave information to the then * William 〈◊〉
Archshop of Canterbury both where Lilburne and his Libels were who immediately dispatched a Pursevant with plenary authority who attached Lilburne and seised on his Bookes which were all consumed with fire So much for the cause of his suffering Thirdly for the quality of the paine suffered it was no lesse then pillorying whipping gagging and to say truth most wicked abusing of his person Here I beseech the Reader to take notice that not onely this Pamphleter Lilburnes vindicator but himselfe also in all his seditious Pamphlets maketh it an argument infallible because of his cruell handling by the Bishops to prove his extraordinary zeale to God and his Countrey when it was his affection to attaine riches and the desire of gaine that brought those calamities upon him for had he sate at home and not transported himselfe beyond the Seas to have printed that L●ttany or if being there he had stayed or else if comming over had left behind him those instruments of his destruction Dr Bastwicks Bookes he had not now been reputed so famous a sufferer for God and his Countrey but had remained as he still is in the account of all wise and truely religious men a * MECHANICK FACTIOUS SLANDEROUS LYING LIBELLER ●LBURNS ARACTER His Defender goes on And now if you will begin to think how a * man so faithfull in all his waies should be so liable to trouble as he hath been for he hath been divers Woe unto ●e saith P●●phet ●● call bl●ck ●ite wh●●e 〈◊〉 times in Pur●ev●nts hands and so committed by Committees if you shall consider how this Pearle comes to be cast upon this Dunghill you will finde the faithfulnesse of his heart towards God and all good people the ☞ freenesse of his tongue against all kind of injustice or unworthynesse in whom soever is the onely cause and no other The lying Pamphleter having before told you that the sufferings of Lilburne in the Prelates daies was onely for God and his Countrey which egregious and monstrous lie I have already canvasd now he proposeth a Riddle and asketh how it should come to passe that a man so faithfull in all his waies c. I answer giving my judgement what might be the reason thereof perhaps one reason might be for that he the said Lilburne wrote and divulged a seandalous Pamphlet intituled An answer to NINE ARGVMENTS wherein he intolerably railes against our Church Ministers Worship Government reporting them to be Antichristian and Diabolicall or perhaps it might be for his seditious and base Libell entituled MARTINS ECCHO or for his malicious and trayterous Libell entituled ENGLANDS BIRTHRIGHT with many other seditious and scandalous Libels for which he ought though his punishment were then mitigated to have suffered condign punishment and that after a severe manner by Statutes at Westminster first made 3 Edward 1. c. 33. 2 R. 2. c. 5. 12 c. and Eliz. c. 7. it is enacted and streighly defended upon grievous paine That from henceforth none shall be so hardy to contrive speake or set forth any false newes lies or tales of Prelates Earles Dukes Barons Nobles or great men of the Realme whereby debates discords or slanders may arise between the King and His People and the Lords Nobles and Commons whereof great perill and mischiefe might come to all the Realme and quicke destruction if remedie were not provided and he that shall offend herein shall bee kept in prison untill he hath brought him forth in Court that first did speake and report the same and if he cannot bring him forth then He shall be grievously punished according to the nature of the Offence by the Councell and all Justices of the Peace throughout every Shire City and Towne Corporate are enabled to heare examine and determine the said causes and enjoyned to put these Lawes in the due execution that from henceforth condigne punishment be not deserred from such Offenders But now the Pamphleter explaineth his Riddle himselfe and saith you finde the cause of his trouble to be the faithfulnesse of his heart ô Sir you injure him greatly to charge him with that * The cause o● Lilburns troubles whereof he is not the least conscious but contrary the basenesse and treachery of his heart against God and his Rulers BLASPHEMING the one and CALUMNIATING the other the freenesse of his tongue according to your owne phrase in reviling his Lord the KING of whom he ought not to thinke an evill thought is the cause that brought his former and present calamities upon him and maketh his name become odible to all vertuous but let us traverse the Pamphleter And if you seriously weigh things you will confesse that it would grieve any good mans heart that Treachery Cowardise Cruelty Plundering and Covetousnesse have been very slenderly punished and faithfulnesse so many wayes discouraged and that it is a very sad thing in a time so zealously pretending REFORMATION that any quiet people should be punished and reproached for worshipping and serving God * A Dom●sti●● Phrase according to their Conscience and that TROUBLE-HOUSE CONFORMITIE as much cryed up as in the Bishops times All wise men will seriously weigh and consider things as they are and as they may be caryed that men in Authority may rule over the bodies of men but not over their minds and therefore not able to prevent Treacherie Cowardise or Cruelty the committers whereof often escape unpunisht contrary to their will which if so neglected ought not to be charged on them againe that it is not alwayes seasonable to punish crimes though never so heynous and that is when the offenders are * For so the cure may prove worse then the Di●●ease potent able to withstand and perhaps Their Arme of Flesh considered over-power their Judges but it is evident to all the world that since the si●ting of this PARLIAMENT they have not been p●rtial in the least regard witnesse the two * The Father and the Sonne ●ho both lost their heads on ●ower Hill for betraying the ●ust was repoed in them HOTHAMS never was faithfulnesse better rewarded then by them who have on the meanest subject bestowed honou●s if found faithful and have rewarded each Officer fighting for them according to his Degree and this is no sad thing in a time of Reformation but a glorious Animation to the Just nor are the quiet people punished or reproached for serving God those Disturbers of Sions Peace the Sectaries are only opposed their errors being opposite to God destructive to the Peace of the Kingdome who if they should be suffered would be an occasion of the inevitable Ruine and Destruction of this Nation for as long as there were divers Sects there would be Division and a Kingdome divided cannot stand God himselfe hath pronounced it and that without which God cannot be zealously served nor the Common-wealth possibly preserved in peace and tranquillity which you contemptuously and wickedly call ‖ The Author
that if any be already infected they may by reading my lines God willing receive present and perfect cure and it will be a preservative also to prevent the further spreading and encrease thereof Heare the Libeller We are well assured and ye cannot forget that our chusing you to be● Parliament Men was to deliver us from all kind of bondage and to preserve the Common-wealth in Peace and Happinesse for effecting whereof we possessed you with the same power that was in our selves to have done the same for we might have done it our selves without you if we bad thought so convenient chusing you as persons whom we thought fitly qualified and faithfull for avoiding some inconveniences What hath bereft you of your former confidence the wickednesse of your owne spirits will not suffer you to participate of that good which is providing the men ye have chosen have not failed to performe their duty in a Parliamentary way and God hath so aided them that they have outdone example the bondage were it a bondage you so sorely exclaim against is taken off and the peace and happinesse you seeme to desire there is great hopes to injoy had it not beene for your owne cursed Proceedings Lyings and Slandering the Authors of your Good you might have now beene in better state then you are and yee have shewed your selves unworthy of that Good got and gaining for you by your continuall Debates and Dangerous speeches and as if you were weary of mercies by threatning That if you have not all even to a tittle that your erring Fancies desire you will by your owne strength procure it Now whereas you Boast that had you thought it convenient yee your selves could have accomplisht your wish Vaine men though it be possible you may be of Abilitie sufficent to measu●e Cloth and to keepe a Booke your summes being vast and unknowne yet with BAKERS Ayde you can substract and multiply and give the Summa totalis yet to manage the Affairs of a Kingdome is too high for you and had not the HIGH-COMMISSION COURT beene suppressed till by you we might still have beene cited before a Judge bearing both Swords as before it hath alwayes beene the custom of wicked and ungratefull men such as your selves the good once attained to slight the procurers thereof did you want that you now have O how acceptable would the least of those mercies be of which yee now surfeit and yee ought to know that mercies abused are often by the Almightie turn'd into scourges for the smart of the wicked and ungratefull But how yee have dealt with us we shall now let you know and * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 let the Righteous GOD Judge betmixt you and us the continuall oppressors of this Nation have been Kings which 〈◊〉 so evident that you cannot deny it Did you as you ought you would let them know how they had dealt with you by presenting your selves to them in all Humility and acknowledge with all Thankfulnesse that They have under God beene the preserve●● both of your lives and states but yee are an unstable wavering-minded people never contented in one state selfe-conceited you are and lea●e so much upon that broken staffe of Reed your wit that it will be a meanes at length even to pierce you through Rash you are and your Ignorance sputting you on yee affect Things Inconvenient and DESTRUCTIVE TO yours SELVES And whereas you say the continuall oppresso●●s of this Nation have beene KINGS I answer you commit a grievous sinne to averre ought contrary to your knowledge if yee have Read the Chronicles of this Kingdom you will find that the * 〈◊〉 Kings of this Isle and that for the major part have beene nursing Fathers and Mothers under whose peaceable and happy Government the people of this Land have sate each man under his figge tree praysing God and praying for their King If yee shall Aske what were the names of those KINGS so good and Gracious I answer before the Conquest many as EDMUND EDGAR ATHELSTANE c. Since the Conquest Henry the third Henry the fifth Henry the seaventh and his Son Henry the eighth Edward the sixth gracious * Queene Elizabeth King JAMES with divers others whom ●egina inarum for brevities sake I omit some of Them having augmented the Bounds of their Kingdome striving to make Their Nation glorious and great others have strove to maintaine what your forefathers have got executing Justice and Judgement and in truth never no Nation had more cause to boast of the Valour Pietie and good Government of their Kings then the English Nation nor hath our DREAD SOVERAIGN LORD KING CHARLES beene Inferiour to His Pious Predeceslours in the least respect who for the space of 17 yeares ere seduced by some pernicious and vile A Spencers Governed His People in Peace and under Him They ●lluding ●he Father the Son ●t Edward second so ●dly affect●● that he ●ooke the ●insell of Counsel●ts and was ●lly Ruled ●heir gid●ancies to unspeak● trouble ● vexation ●he whole ●lme Injoyed much Felicitie and so may againe this Prodigious and terrible storme o're-blown but let us returne to the Libeller And yet yee cannot fight for our Liberties but it must be in the name of KING and PARLIAMENT and He that speakes of His cruelties must be thrust out of your House your Preachers must pray for him as He had not deserved to be Excōmunicated all Christian societie or as if you or They thought that GOD were a Respecter of Persons in Judgement The Honourable Hcuses of Parliament esteeme it not a poynt of Libertie to Fight the Kings Battels and except His name the Royall Partie having perswaded the King to Destructive courses he ruled by them fought against His PARLIAMENT His Parliament to maintain the Libertie of the Subject their own Rights Priviledges and to Restore His Majestie to that honour and state He was in are seduced fight against those their opposers and is it not convenient for Them then He being the Head they the Members to have His name mentioned for whose honour They fight as for Their owne Rights Kings are but men and have Their passions and failings as well as others and moreover a great and weightie Burthen lyes on Their shoulders which Subjects doe not conceive and according to the Poet Crownes are but hives where stinging cares doe swarms Pompes but the whites where at fell envy shoots Which are as Trees whence grow their owners harme Harmes are the fruit Crownes Flowers Kingdoms Root The Arme of flesh is but a feeble Arme And in such strong extremes it little Boots He knowes not yet the Nature of a Crowne That knowes not Kings may be by strength o'ret hrowne And forasmuch as we are perswaded that those evill Counsellours were the onely cause and Fountaine whence our sorrowes have slowed and that we know and have cause to believe considering His Majesties frequent and pithy expressions His heartie desire of Compliance
with His Parliament of setling a firme wel-grounded Peace Is it fit that any should speak lightly or Revile our Lord whose after-Reigne we hope will prove more glorious then H is former Why should we Doubt the Evill being taken away but H is Throne shall be established in Peace Why should not the Ministers of God Nay have they not ample Reason therefore as they prayed once for H is Conversion now to give thanks for H is being Converted And though God its true be no Respecter of Persons in Judgement it followeth not that we should imitate our Maker in that for he commandeth by his Apostle saying FEARE GOD HONOUR THE KING And have yee shooke this Kingdome like an Earth-quake to produce no more then this for us Is it for this that yee have made so free use and beene bold with our Estates And doe you because of our Readinesse to comply with you in All Things esteeme us so sottish as to be contented with such unworthy Returnes of our trust and love No it 's high time to be plaine with you We ARE not SHALL not be so contented We doe expect in the first place that you should Declare and set forth KING CHARLES His wickednesse openly before the world and withall to shew the Intollerable inconvenience of Kingly Government from the constant evill Practises of those of this Nation and to Declare KING CHARLES an enemy and to publish your Resolution never to have any more but to Acquit us of so great a Charge and trouble for ever to convert the great Revenues of the Crown to the publike treasure to make good the injuries and injustices done hereofore and of late by those that have possessed the same and till this he done we shall not think our selves well Dealt withall in this originall of all oppressions to wit KINGS That this Nation hath of late beene sorely shaken it is most true and had not Gods mercy surpassed Englands Deserts it had beene shaken to pieces but this ungratefull Libeller Asketh And is it for this for what your fore-fathers would have sacrificed Their Lives with Joy Had they but hoped Their Posteritie after Them should have gained those rare Immunities and Freedomes which your selves now doe and are like to Injoy the Government by Prelates Abolisht the High-Commission Star-Chamber all Courts grinding the Faces of the poore supprest the Feares of a Combination with Forraigne States taken away by the Disposing of the Mil●tia into trustie hands such as the Commons shall conside in with many other Remarkable priviledges and are yee so unthankfull yet to say IS IT FOR THIS And whereas you menacing Boast That you ARE not nor SHALL not be so contented your Estate is to be Deplored that you are so voyd of grace and Reason than the Sword hath yet a hope to be handled by you and is it not sufficient for you to Ruine your selves but you must also seek the Destruction of the whole Nation For you propose that King CHARLES should be Proclaimed an Enemy could we acquit our selves of our Oaths and the Fidelitie we owe to our Soveraigne yet policy would per swade us to work more Discreetly and not involve in a new warre a Nation almost Dispoyled for wee must know that the Princes of the Royall blood will not sit still and see Themselves Robbed of their Birth-right neither commeth I am sure so vile a thought into the heart of any Member of Parliament whose frequent expressions have beene and still are in all meeknesse and Humilitie to desire the King the spirit of Disaffection abandoned to Returne to His Charge and by Their meanes God assisting become a greater a more glorious and Potent Prince then before all wish I hope to see effected to the rejoycing of all Verru●us and to the shame and consounding of countenance of all Malevolent wicked Sectaries that King and Subjects may Rejoyce in each other the one seeking nothing but the others welfare and all that All Feares and Jealousies layd aside the Subjects of this Kingdomes each man following the workes of his calling submitting themselves as they are desired by S. Paul and that for the Lords sake not denying to yeeld Caeser his lawfull tribute following the example of their Saviour knowing The more he hath the better he shall be enabled to withstand his and their enemies To this purpose one of our moderne Poets saith excellently For thine and mine and mine and thine are things Not for to be ' twixt Subjects and their Kings Princes like the Sun should from the earth exhale The wealth they raise therein and let it fall In every place as they have cause a share And not consume it like the wanton Heyre Their full Exchequers must like Conduits be Open to all to rich and poore like free And Subjects should like Fields be full of Springs And naturally should fall towards their Kings The Common wealth should alwayes be in motion Seas fall to Brookes and Brookes should to the Ocean Such Royall and such Loyall community Keep King and Subjects still in unity And whereas you desire the House of Commons to publish their Resolution never to have Kings more what spirits of Debate filleth your breasts and with what suries are you inraged that you dare be so bold to propose a matter of high concernment which if but for civill respects as aforesaid ought not to be hearkned to your peremptorinesse ought to be punished severely that instigated by Satan goe about to disturbe now our almost setled people who desire to live in subjection to God and their King as they are bound by Oath and Convenant and till your rebellious and destructive desires are accomplisht you threaten that you shall not bee contented why then remaine in your obstinacie untill the rode that you have gathered lash you severely while yee shall be reputed of all wise and loyall men a sort of Traytors Blasphemers and cursed persons But yee have listned to any counsels rather then to the voyce of us that trusted you why is it that yee have stopt the Presse but that yee would have nothing but pleasing and ●lattering Discourses and goe on to make your selves partakers of the Lordship over us without hearing any thing to the contrary The Pamphlet swelleth more and more with * Alluding the place where the Prophet David speaking of the wick● sayings of h● enemies sai●● The porson of Aspes is und● their ups poyson and here it bursteeth forth able to infect the ayre have the House of Commons hearkned to any counsels but what given amongst themselves the effect and issue of their counsells and consulations wee see and ought to rejoyce at but O here 's the cut that divideth the very hearts of the Sectaries the Presse is stopt they cannot print Pamphlets the contents whereof is more full of lyes then a Dogge of ●leas they cannot blaspheme God and revile their Soveraigne in Print as they would and because the