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A19459 A briefe ansvver vnto certaine reasons by way of an apologie deliuered to the Right Reuerend Father in God, the L. Bishop of Lincolne, by Mr. Iohn Burges wherin he laboureth to prooue, that hauing heretofore subscribed foure times, and now refusing (as a thing vnlawfull) that he hath notwithstanding done lawfully in both. Written by VVilliam Couell, Doctor in Diuinitie. Covell, William, d. 1614? 1606 (1606) STC 5880; ESTC S108879 108,616 174

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of the people not to confirme the authoritye of Ecclesiastical opinions or decrees this peraduenture was not vnfit seeing antiquity thought as the counsel of Trent hath set downe that by a kinde of similitude they might seeme to bee Salomons Wherein notwithstanding because there are thought to bee some errors according to the graue moderation of our dread Soueraigne whose wisdome appeared in this like the wisdome of Salomon wee reiect such parcels as are faultie and retaine the rest And yet those which according to the example of the most reformed Churches for you rule vs in all things by the tyranny of example are retained amongst vs are neither read nor esteemed as the rest of the holy scriptures seing liberty is left to all men in their seuerall charges to informe their people in the different valuation of these writings which though the Canon forbid in the Lyturgy both because our additions are vnseemly and often vnsafe yet it is lawfull in your Sermon to instruct your pa●ish what respect and authority is to bee giuen vnto these bookes and therefore your feare in my opinion is needlesse seeing the very naming of the booke from whence the lesson is taken to the most of your hearers will bee difference enough Let me aduise you therefore according to the counsell of Saint Hierom not to contemne those things as smal without which things that are greater cannot well stand And therfore it is wisdom to leaue both the reading and the often reading of these bookes to the wisdome and direction of those that doe rule ouer vs and I hope humility will conquer you in this case if neither vertue nor reason could ouercome onely I must tell you before I end this point that if Saint Hierom were taxed at the conference as the first that gaue them the name of Apocripha there wanted both duery and thankfulnesse in you to interpose that clause though not truely for Cyrill did it before him Seeing all men knowe that Hierom was the first that of all other did openly tearme them by that name without all exception amōgst the Latine Fathers for any thing that I knowe was the first neither was Cyrill his opinion equally sound to S. Hieroms in this case seeing all men knowe that by him B●ruch was accounted Canonicall which worthyly is refused by our Church And therefore if you acknowledge the benfit you haue receiued discharge your debt and hauing receiued fauour as at his hands returne loue as Hugo speaketh For as S. Austin saith none that is sober will striue against reason None that is a christian against the Scripture and none that loueth peace will thinke contrary to that which the Church doth And if beyond this you will needes feare it may argue your loue but not your knowledge Besides what wisdome euen in the greatest safety can make a freedom from feare in the mindes of some melancholy humours APOLOGY AGaine though we beare and with the best rather then likliest expositiōs admit som speeches as we find in some Rubricks Collects or translations in the booke being in shew dāgerous or in sence idle or perhaps false yet my good Lord who can with a good conscience allow your part I meane the reuerend fathers therin that in so many Impressions of the booke could correct none of them but rather still leaue them vpon improbable defences then remooue them with ease as who can Commend in your Lordshipps still to call those peeces of Scripture Epistles which are taken out of Ieremye ●sayes the Acts and Reuelation when the verye counsell of Trent that absurdit● in the M●sse booke And though the eagernesse of some spirits to innouate to many things maye somewhat excuse your ten●citye of them yet in yeilding to nothing you seeme to haue forgotten Augustus Leuell of hating equallye morositie and noueltie as equall faults yea to forget how easie it may be in time for the papis●s to ingrosse our own speeches as by name that of confirmation That it giueth strength against temptations to sinn c. As the Gothes made the laws of the Romans to become theirs by a Gothish interpretation And in all this stiffnes what is more manif●st then the difficultye of denying our selues and of ayming simplie at the glorie of God when wee are once ingaged and het in the quarrells of our owne ANSVVER SEeing it pleaseth you to repeat the same things as new which often heretofore haue beene answered both by vs and others It shall not bee I hope offensiue to any If we say againe what else where wee haue vttered which peraduenture hath not come vnto your vew That because men are easily wearied in those duties that are best and prayer making vs apt to fall into speculations concerning God both that our wearines may be lesse and our thoughts more sound and more agreable to the present busines those wise men that haue beene before vs haue chosen lessōs for the church fitting seuerall occasions that as prayer make vs fitter to hear so the hearing of these may make vs fitter to pray To read scriptures in the time of diuine seruice wee hope being auncient and of such vse their wisdom will not much mislike if the name of epistle doe offend you cannot but know that the originall of this both for the name and the thing was from Paule himselfe commanding the same Epistle which he sent vnto the Collossians to be read in the Church of the Laodiceans and of that to the Thessalonians he saith I charge you in the Lord that this Epistle be read vnto all the brethren the Saints from which custome the Church hauing appoynted that portion of scripture whether out of the prophets Acts of the Apostle or Reuelation which circumstances considered was thought then fittest to be read vnto the people as if it were sent directlye vnto them thereby procuring their attention is not vnfitly tearmed by the name of Epistle to these as Saint Chrisostome noteth the minister stood vp and cryed with a loude voyce Let vs attend this practise hath resemblance to the practise of the Iewes euen vntill this daye amongst whome some thing is read euerye Sabboth out of Moses or the prophets besides these if any thing offend through the seueritye of some expositions as what scripture so holye that some expositions will not corrupt wee desire more charitye at their hands seing the cause wee defend is the Honour of our church the wisdome of our forefathers the worship of God and not our owne wils for which onlye if our Reuerend fathers had been ingaged they would I doubt not long since rather haue relinquished their owne right then with so much preiudice haue hazarded the Churches peace as for the Church of Rome we are so farre from being vnwilling that they should ingrosse our speeches as that wee daily and heartily pray that they would in all thinges both thinke and speake
who should discern betwixt the cleane and vncleane whose power is to bynd loose who by an other Canon is tyed to suspend from the communion euery notorious offendour must pronounce an assured hope of this mans happynes and pray to be consummate blessed with him which is to speak good of euill and which god abhorreth to iustifie the wicked ANSVVERE AS in a great variety of Iewels affection iudgment do not easely agree which to valew and esteeme of most worth so amongst al those vertues the true ornaments of a Christian life which seuerally are deuided vnto Christian men all being excellent it cannot easily be determined which exceedeth but leauing the rest and following the blessed contention which Saint Paule maketh concerning Faith Hope and Charitie wee say Abraham testifyeth for the first who beleeued and it was accounted vnto him for righteousnesse Enoch taught the assurance of Hope who religiously expecting a better life gaue beginning to the publicke inuocation of Gods name Lastly the patterne of true Charitie was Christ himselfe whole loue being stronger then death held him vpon the crosse whom Death was not able to hold in the graue nay God maketh Loue to be himselfe in that hee maketh himselfe to bee loue and who so abideth in loue to abide in God and God in him and howsoeuer there can be no Christian life where these three remayne not Fayth Hope and Charitie yet the greatest of these is Charitie For if we had all faith so that wee could remooue mountaines yet if wee wanted Charitie we were nothing Faith is the foundation of the Spirituall building of Gods house Charitie the roofe without which the best are but as houses vncouered that cannot long continue there is no iust reason to denie our loue vnto our brethren of the same promise who are the sonnes and hoyres of the same life with vs except sin nay though they sinne which wee ought not to loue in them yet we are not warranted to leaue off our loue thogh they leaue not sin For euen out of this vertue of charitie we can afforde them a couering to make their sins in our opinion to seeme lesse Charitie still directing vs in other mens falles for to hope the best And therfore euen those whom wee ought to excommunicate if we had authoritie we dare not pronounce as absolutely cut off from the attainement of euerlasting life the one is the discipline of the Church to cut off for a time that which is euill the other is our peculiar charitie to hope that that may be good which is cut off And therefore such men who haue no other interest in their brethren but to hope and to speake the best thing● can no way receiue preiudice if following the commaundement of the Church they pronounce of all liuing within her bosome a sure and certaine hope of resurrectio to eternall life And pray to haue with them their perfect consummation and blisse not taking vnto them the exact iudgement of God himselfe who onely knoweth such as belong vnto him in which men may erre as well though not so easily nor so often in those of much outward holinesse as in them that are openly prophane and therefore in both we thinke and speake onely as we are warranted by Hope Wherein if our charitie shall exceed the happinesse of any that so dyeth it shall be no hurt to our soule to pray to haue our perfect consummation and blisse with him of whom charitie made vs so to hope and to speake though he be not saued this being the intention of our prayer that all dying in the bosome of the Church shall haue part in the triumphant with whom we desire from the communion of Saints to partake not as they in Gods secret iudgement may bee for so wee thinke it not lawfull to speake of the best that are but as our charitie maketh vs to hope of them and as the church teacheth vs to speak with this our brother and all other departed in the true faith of his holy name for so we suppose him to be for howsoeuer his sinnes may be manifest and publick in this life yet we dare not esteem him in death impenitent neither can any authoritie belonging to vs so warrant vs to distinguish betwixt the cleane and the vncleane but that in charity we may both hope and speake better then the secret iustice of god will permit and yet neither speake good of euill seing we thinke as we speake nor iustifie the wicked seeing we acquitt but them whome we haue no authority to condemne following in all things a christian charity which there is litle feare should be ouermuch especially in these dayes wherein it it is prophesied that it shall wax cold APOLOGY THese are mine exceptions for as for some incommodious phrases and speeches I hold it my duety to take them in the fairest sense till cause be giuen to suspect a worse and now my Lord I humbly beseech you to consider that I haue not reuoked my former subscriptions but onely refused a new that I had reason for that I did and that which I doe that the interpretation of ambiguous things make them good or euill that it is neither straunge nor vnfit to chaunge the iudgment as the euidence chaungeth And if I can obtaine any thing of your Lordship let me craue the repute of an honest man how ignorant or deceiued soeuer you take me to be And for the rest I will now speak as a dying man counting my selfe after twenty yeares ministery painfully I thank god peaceably as his church knoweth would god I could add fruitefully spent in the churches seruice vtterly cast out of seruice and of all me●●●s of maintenance charged with a wife and ten children in a poore estate ANSVVER THere are few cōsiderations that more effectually do moue pittie then where the innocēt are wraped in a misery procured by the offence of others and I confesse for my owne parte I neuer heard or thought of the iust depriuation of any of tollerable desert but I hartily lamented that those things should seeme so greuous in their iudgment as to defraude the church of God of their best indeauours and to sylence themselues from the preaching of the gospell that might be through a blessing so benificiall to many being imposed by a woe could hardly be neclected without a curse This hath made me earnestly and oftē to pray that the thirst of Innouation increased in many by the comming of his maiesty vnto this kingdome did not inforce men through the euill counsell of some hypocriticall brethren Iealously to suspect and malitiously to depraue the cerimonies and gouernment of the church when they had least cause And amongst those manifould misteries which accompanyed the King into this land this is not the least that when a strong continuance of a setled truth dispersing all wandering opinions vnder a learned prince was more then hopefully