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A48817	The difference between the Church and Court of Rome, considered in some reflections on a dialogue entituled, A conference between two Protestants and a Papist / by the author of the late seasonable discourse.	Lloyd, William, 1627-1717.	1674 (1674)	Wing L2677; ESTC R18276	29,803	41

are the goodly Machines which are recommended to batter down the Protestant Cause and which we see every day propos'd with such confidence as if they had really some force or value in them and where these Stratagems succeed lest the fraud and folly of them should be detected great pains is taken to perswade the unhappy Proselyte immediately to discard all Heretical Books especially the Bible and the conversation of Hereticks especially Divines But because in this Noon-day Light of Christian Knowledge the Generality of Protestants is not apt to be perswaded to quit their Faith on these slight terms the next dexterity will be which is the Head we are now immediately concern'd in to make them believe that they are much mistaken if they measure Popery from Prejudice and common Fame or the Expressions of the School-men or peevish Writers of Controversie The Church speaks in the Canons of her Councils and if they be soberly considered 't will appear there is not so vast a distance between both parties as is vulgarly imagin'd This is at large inculcated as by our Country-men Sancta Clara Hugh Cressy Tilden and others so with great vouge and ostentation by the Bishop of Condom in his celebrated Exposition of the Doctrine of the Catholick Church concerning matters in Controversie which he has transformed and molded to render it more soft and plausible several times over So that we are so far from learning of him the Doctrine of his Church that we cannot discern what is his own every Edition altering the Scheme and way of Proposal I may not omit to add upon this Head the mention of my Author who spends whole pages of his little Dialogue in shewing the Moderation of the Church of England in difference to other Reformations and the easiness by good handling to procure a Reconcilement But all these Pacifick Men are so artificial as to conceal what ill Treatment the Authors of such Discourses have ever had where they were in earnest and there was no collusion in the case For instance Erasmus Cassander Modrevius The Interimists F. Barnes c. And what is more material the Bull of Pius the IV. who made the Trent Creed and confirm'd the Dictates of that Assembly which forbids that any Person of whatsoever Order or Dignity in the Church his Holiness onely excepted do explicate the Decrees of the Council in any manner or upon any pretence withal he nulls and makes void all such Explications So that be we Protestants never so much disposed to a composure there is no Concession to be look'd for on the Papists part who are not only accountable for the Heterodoxy of their Interpretations but for the very offer at interpreting And therefore however the Heretick may be born in hand before his Reconcilement to the Church of Rome of great Indulgence to Dissenters in Speculative Points so soon as he is made a Proselyte the case is alter'd and he must believe as the Church believes or 't were as good to believe nothing at all I had thought here to have instanc'd in Mr. Hugh Cressy's Improvements in the Catholick Faith after his first Conversion Whereby all his kind Remembrances of the Church of England and offer of giving Security to the State mentioned in the First Edition of his Exomologesis are forgotten in the Second with several other Remarkable Varieties and Additional Periods and Sections in the place of those that were expung'd with which when the aforesaid Mr. Cressy was charged as gross and scandalous falsifications he had no better excuse to make than by protesting solemnly That he knew nothing of the Alterations they being put in by his Superiours to whose diseretions he had entirely left his Book and it seems his own Honesty and Honour But I find my self prevented in this particular by the late honourable Animadverter on that inconstant man and therefore unto him I remit the Reader George Cassander who labour'd in the Affair of Reconcilement as much and understood it as well as any man lays it down as a fundamental Maxime That the Church can never have the desired peace unless they lead the way to it who have given the cause to the distraction that is unless those who are in place of Ecclesiastical Government will remit of their immoderate Rigour and yield somewhat to the peace of the Church and hearkening to the Admonitions of pious men will set themselves to correct manifest Abuses according to the Rule of Divine Scripture and of the Primitive Church from which they have swerved Now can any one be so fond to think that his Holiness will tamely strip himself of the Regalia Petri and be reduced to the Neighbour-like Terms of the old Regulae Patrum Will he part with his Universal Monarchy and be satisfied with a primacy of Order his Suburbicarian Region and a little Diocess in a part of Italy Will he leave off to have his feet upon the necks of Kings and his hands in theirs and their subjects pockets and be in earnest servus servorum I need not ask whether the Cardinals will come off from their Pontifical Sloth and Luxury and quitting their Pensions and Commendams remember they were poor Parish Priests and Deacons But will the meanest Father or Curé perswade himself to disown his power of making God and disposing of him at his pleasure in the language of Pere Cotton loose the omnipotence of having his God in his hand and Prince at his feet and in pure self-denial quit the power of the Keyes in the grinful pretences of being able by the vertue of the Sacrament of Penance and some grains of Attrition added to it to remit all sins how horrid soever and sneak into a Ministerial Stewardship of a Clave non errante Or farther shall the bartering for Masses whose whole merit is said to be applied by the intention of the Priests and the Lay-mans payment for them though neither understand a word of the whole Office and the later do not so much as hear it read and can have no concern therein unless perchance his share in the idolatrous Worship of the elevated Wafer upon which work alone so many thousand lazy Friers are constantly maintained be laid aside for the reasonable service instituted by our Saviour and the entire perception of the holy Eucharist according to that his Institution of it I know men are apt to believe that which they vehemently wish and very wise and sober men were induced to think heretofore a closure with the Church of Rome no impossible matter but the case is quite altered since the time of the Council of Trent which has establisht every thing that ought to be remov'd and shew'd the world how vain their hopes were from Synods and universal Councils how formidable the very approaches to Reformation were to those Fathers abundantly appears from that History of Padre Paolo and this is acknowledged abundantly by my Author And now let us suppose

agitation in the Court of Rome and attendance on three several Popes can scarcely compass this great Work of bringing a straid Royal Sheep into the Fold of Christ. The difficulties made herein will abundantly appear as from the Histories of that Age so more particularly from Cardinal D' Ossat and Perron's Memorials And truly 't is remarkable when the matter was adjusted to what submissions the King in his Representatives was fain to descend How his Commissioners in his Name and Behalf beg Remission prostrate on their Faces and being drub'd and bastinado'd as the insulting Italians word it or as the French confess being switch'd by his Holiness hardly obtain'd an Absolution for their Master who was farther oblig'd to renounce his former Inauguration and Absolution given him in France and to swear the Extirpation of the Protestants But when all this was done the Pacification was not fully made but this Mighty Prince fell by the Poniard of a Ravilliac and the implacable Papacy as is notorious to the World The Successor to these Lewis the XIII having before him the Catastrophe of his two immediate Predecessors one would have thought might reasonably be allowed some farther Provision for his Safety and Assurance of the Allegiance of his People and to this end the Third Estate drew up an Oath of Fealty to be taken by all his Subjects but it is not imaginable with what fury this was oppos d by the Pope and Clergy what violent and long Harangues were made in the House of Peers and Commons against it what Gratulations were sent to the Clergy of France by his holiness for their generous opposition of that Oath complementing it as a Defence of his and therein the Churches Rights The Speech of Cardinal Perron is a sufficient account of this matter which was at large answered by the Royal Pen of King Iames and therefore needs no new unraveling But beyond all this there is a particular which is not commonly taken notice of and deserves not to be forgotten 'T is this After the Cardinal in his long Harangue in the Name of the Clergy of France had baffled and exposed the power of Kings and endeavoured to subject both it and their Persons also to the Discipline and Coercion of the Church and concluded that at best the point of Princes being exempt from Deposition was barely Problematical and consequently could not be matter of an Oath The King fearing to provoke so strong and eager a party called the aforesaid Bill for the Security of his Person to his own hearing and made an express Inhibition to the several Estates that they should not proceed farther in it or sign or publish what they had drawn up But this would not serve the turn the Ecclesiasticks would not sit down with a drawn Battail but insolently depute in their Names the Bishop of Anger 's with other Prelates and Capitulars among whom were Cardinal Perron and Sourdis where Cardinal Perron being the Spokes-man told the King to his Face That this matter lately contested was a point of Doctrine and though in his Speech to the Third Estate he had declar'd it to be Problematical now to cut it short he asserted that the power of the Pope was full nay most full and direct in Spirituals and indirect in Temporals That whosoever maintained the contrary were Schismaticks and Hereticks even those of the Parliament who had suck'd the Milk of Tours That if the King would not immediately cassate the Arrest of the Parliament and would not raze out of the Registers the Conclusions of the Kings Officers he had in Commission and Charge to say That they would depart from the Assembly of Estates and that being there as in a National Council they would Excommunicate all those who were of a contrary Opinion to the Proposition which affirmed that the Pope could Depose the King And if the King would not suffer them to proceed unto Ecclesiastical Censures they would do it notwithstanding though they were to suffer Martyrdom We have here if I mistake not plain enough the Judgment of the Church of France Would we see what was the Opinion of the Pope upon it Upon the 16 of Febr. there was brought and opened and read in the Chamber of the Clergy a Brief of the Pope Paul the V. bearing date the last of March 1615. sub annulo Piscatoris wherein his Holiness returns his Solemn Thanks to the Clergy of France for what they had done against the Article of the Third Estate wherein his power was concerned desiring them to persevere in the same mind Which Brief by the way was read in their Chamber without any leave had or ask'd from the King or Council And truly if the most Christian King be treated thus by his Subjects in duty to their Soveraign the Pope notwithstanding the primogeniture and other pretences of that Crown what shall we of England expect who stand in worse circumstances We must not wonder or take it amiss that Pope Urban the VIII in the year 1626. by his Bull bearing date May 30. forbad all Roman Catholicks to take the Oath of Allegiance And since the happy Restoration of his present Majesty when several of his Subjects of the Papal Profession offered by Oath wherein the Supremacy is wholly wav'd to assure their Duty and Obedience that the Pope and his Agents look'd upon this Overture as Apostacy from him that is from the Christian Faith and persecuted all those who are concern'd in the Proposal of which see the Controversial Letters and the late History of the Irish Affairs Nor lastly will it be at all strange that at this day many eminent Persons of the Romish Religion who by the great Indulgence of the State are permitted notwithstanding their Differences in Judgment and Interest from the rest of the Kingdom are upon assurance given of their Loyalty by the easie Test of promising it under the Seal of an Oath permitted to have the personal and free use of their Votes in the Judging of Causes in their last Appeal and what is the highest Trust imaginable the making of Laws and sit as Peers in the Great Council of the Nation do now refuse to give the aforesaid Assurance by taking the Oath of Allegiance though that be the general Condition previous to Session laid not onely upon them but all the rest of their Fellow-Subjects It is not for me or any private person to determine of the Rights of our Superiours but by Duty and Allegiance we are obliged to defend them This I think may be laid down as a Maxime That no Power is of any moment when set in Opposition to its Superiour and that all Pleas follow the last Appeal So that if the Spiritual Soveraign be plac'd above the Temporal 't is vain to talk of any Rights the Temporal can plead in prejudice unto the other and to speak the whole matter in one short word Princes can have no sufficient powers against