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A29199	A just vindication of the Church of England, from the unjust aspersion of criminal schisme wherein the nature of criminal schisme, the divers sorts of schismaticks, the liberties and priviledges of national churches, the rights of sovereign magistrates, the tyranny, extortion and schisme of the Roman Communion of old, and at this very day, are manifested to the view of the world / by ... John Bramhall ...	Bramhall, John, 1594-1663.	1654 (1654)	Wing B4226; ESTC R18816	139,041	290

challenge a Jurisdiction not upon us who deny it Men are not put to prove negatives Let them produce their Registers and shew for the first six hundred years what Ecclesiastical Courts the Roman Bishops or their Legates have held in Brittain what causes they have removed from thence to Rome upon appeals what sentences given in Brittain they have repealed there what British subjects they have excommunicated or summoned to appear at Rome let them shew what Bishopricks they have conferred in Brittain in those daies what British Bishops did then intitle themselves to their Bishopricks by the Grace of God and of the Apostolique See let them declare to the world how many of our British Primates or Patriarchs of York London or Caerleon have constantly or at all repaired to Rome to be ordained or have received Licenses or dispensations thence for their ordination at home or elsewhere for ordinationis jus caetera jura sequuntur He who is necessarily by law obliged to have recourse to a forraign Prelate for his ordination is thereby implyed to be inferiour or subject to his ordainer If they can say nothing to any of these points they may disclaime their Patriarchall right in Brittain and hold their peace for ever The reasons why I set York before London in the order of our British Patriarchs or Primates are these First because I find their names subscribed in that order in the Councel of Arles held in the year 314. consisting as some say of 200. as others say of 600. Bishops convocated by Constantine the great before the first Councel of Nice to hear and determine the appeal of the Donatists from the sentence of the Imperiall delegates whereof Melchiades the Bishop of Rome was one It were a strange sight in these daies to see a Pope turn Legate to the Emperours in a cause of Ecclesiasticall cognisance Secondly for the same reason that Rome and Constantinople in those daies of the Roman Puissance were dignified above all other Churches because they were then the seats of the Emperours York was then an Imperial City the Metropolis of the chief Britannick Province called at that time maxima Caesariensis where Severus the Emperour died and had his funerall pile upon Severs hill a place adjoyning to that City where Constantine the great was born in domo Regali vocata Pertenna in the Royal Palace whereof some poor remainders are yet to be seen then called Pertenna now a small part of it called vulgarly Bederna a very easy mistake if we consider that the Brittish Pronounce P. for B. and T. like D. situate near Christs Church in Curia Regis or in the Kings Court on the one hand and extending it self near to St. Helens Church upon the walls now demolished on the other hand Although their silence alone to my former demand at least of so many whom I have seen that have written upon this Subject be a sufficient conviction of them and a sufficient vindication of us yet for further manifestation of the truth Let us consider first that if we compare the ages and originals of the Roman and Britannique Churches we shall find that the Britannique is the more ancient and Elder Sister to the Roman it self The Britannique Church being planted by Ioseph of Arimathea in the raign of Tiberius Caesar where as it is confessed that Saint Peter came not to Rome to lay the foundation of that Church untill the second year of Claudius secundo Claudii anno in Italiam venit So if we look to the beginning according to the direction of the Councel of Ephesus the Britannique Church in its first original was free from the Jurisdiction of the Bishop and Court of Rome where there was neither Bishop nor Court nor Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction at that day Secondly that it continued free in ensuing ages appears evidently by that opposition which the Church of Britain maintained against the Church of Rome siding with the Eastern Churches about the question of those times concerning the observation of Easter and the administration of Baptisme wherein Austine about the six hundreth year laboured to conform them but in vain Is it credible that the whole Brittish and Scottish Church should so unanimously have dissented from Rome for many hundred years together if they had been subject to the Jurisdiction of the Roman Bishop as of their lawfull Patriarch or that the Bishop of Rome in all that time should never so much as question them for it if they had been his Subjects Even then when Pope Victor durst attempt to deny or withdraw his communion from all the Asiatick Churches about the same businesse Neither were the Brittish Churches at last conformed to Rome by any Patriarchall power but by many conferences by the necessity of their civill affaires and by long tract of time some sooner some later A long tract of time indeed when some in the most Septentrionall parts of these Provinces were not reduced until a little before the late reformation Thirdly among the principal priviledges of patriarchall power is the right of ordination That all Metropolitans at least should either be ordained by the Patriarch or by License from the Patriarch This appears clearly in the dispute between the Patriarch of Antioch and the Cyprian Bishops But where the Bishops were 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 independent upon not subject unto any forrain Prelate there they ordained at their own pleasures needed no License Such were our British Primates ordained alwaies or ordinarily at Rome according to the Cyprian priviledges creating new Bishopricks ordaining new Bishops at their own pleasures without giving any account to Rome So we read of St. Telaus who had been driven out of his own Country by an Epidemical sicknesse for a long time that at his return he consecrated and ordained Bishops as he thought fit That he made one Hismael Bishop of St. Davids And in like manner advanced many other men of the same order to the same degree sending them throughout the country and dividing the parishes for the best accommodation of the Clergy and of the People And if there were no other proofe of our exemption but onely the small number of the Bishops that were ordained by all the succeeding Popes for about the first three hundred years untill the death of Marcellinus It were sufficient to shew that the Bishops of Rome in those daies had little or nothing to do out of their owne Province and that their jurisdiction extended nothing near so far as Britain Saint Peter Ordained but three in his supposed five and twenty years that is Linus and Cletus ut sacerdotale Ministerium Romano populo advenis benè sentientibus exhiberent and Clement to whom he bequeathed his Episcopal Chair Linus but eleven Clement but fifteen Anacletus but six Evaristus but five Alexander but five Sixtus but four c. These were few enough for their own Province and none to

or consecration Who so proper to chuse a Bishop as the Chapiter So was that Convent until the Reformation Who so proper to Ordain as the Bishop For neither Derry nor the Isles did ever want a Bishop from their first conversion So referendo singula singulis the words of Bede are plain the Chapiter named and the Bishop Ordained Fourthly they mistake the subjection The Abbat was the Lord of the Manour and so the Bishop was subject to the Abbat in temporalibus But the Abbat was every where subject to the Bishop in spiritualibus who did annually visite both the Abby and the Abbat as by the visitation-rolles and records if these intestine wars have not made an end of them may appear You see upon what conjecturall grounds Criticks many times build new paradoxes which one latent circumstance being known is able to disperse and dissipate with all their probable presumptions If it had not been thus It is no new thing for an Abbat to challenge Episcopal Jurisdiction or to contend with his Bishop about it What is this to meer Presbyters qua tales Lastly they contradict Venerable Bede He saith it was ordine inusitato by an unusuall order They say it was in a manner the common rule of all the English And this they say upon pretence of a decree of the Councel of Hereford that such Bishops as had voluntarily professed Monkery should perform their promised obedience Which is altogether impertinent to their purpose Doth any man doubt whether Bishops might freely of their own accord enter into a religious Order or that they were not as well obliged to perform their vow as others Some Emperours have done the same Yet no man will conclude from thence that Emperours are inferiour to Abbats Such mistakes are all their instances except they light by chance upon an unformed Church before it were well settled As if a man should argue thus There have been no Bishops in Virginia during the Reigns of King Iames and King Charles therefore the Clergy there were Ordained by Presbyters We know the contrary that they had their Ordination in England So had the Clergy in unformed Churches forreign Ordination This is part of that which we have to say for a proper Patriarchate and for our exemption from the Jurisdiction of the Roman Court from which our separation is much wider then from the Roman Church Other differences may make particular breaches but the Roman Court makes the universal Schisme between them and all the rest of the Christian world and hath been much complained of and in part shaken off by some of their own communion I could wish with all my heart that they were as ready to quit their pretended prerogatives which not we alone but all the world except themselves and a great part of themselves privately so condemn as we should be to wave our just priviledges and if need were to sacrifice them to the common peace of Christendome This was a more noble and a more speedy way to a re●union then a Pharisaical compassing of Sea and Land to make particular Proselytes of all those whom either a natural levity or want of judgment or discontent or despair to see the Church of England re-established or extream poverty and expectation of some supply have prepared for their baits whom they do not court more untill they have gained them then they neglect after they think they have them sure as daily experience doth teach 〈◊〉 CHAP. X. Th Conclusion of this Treatise THis is the Treatise of Schisme intimated in my answer to Monsi●ur de la militiere but not promised by me who know nothing of the impression nor should have judged it proper to give an English answer to a French Author Howsoever being published I own it except the errors of the Presse Among which I desire the Christian Reader to take notice especially of one because it perverts the sense It is noted in the margent They who have composed minds free from distracting cares and meanes to maintain them and friends to assist them and their books and notes by them do little imagine with what difficulties poor Exiles struggle whose minds are more intent on what they should eat to morrow then what they should write being chased as Vagabonds into the mercilesse world to beg relief of strangers An hard condition that when the meanest creatures are secured from that fear of wanting necessary sustenance by the bounty of God and nature that onely men the best of creatures should be subjected to it● by undeserved cruelty Peruse all the Histories of the latest wars among Dutch French Swedes Danes Spaniards Poles Tartars and Turks and you shall not meet with the like hard measure Did the King of Spain conqner a Town from the Hollanders He acquired a new Dominion but the property of private men continued the same Did the Hollanders take in a Town from the Spaniard they made provision for the very Cloisterers during their lives So did our Henry the eighth also at the dissolution of the Abbies Violent things last not long Or if Exiles can subsist without begging yet they are necessitated to do or suffer things otherwise not so agreeable to them Wherein they deserve the pity of all good men When Alexander had conquered Darius and found many Grecians in his Army he commanded to detain the Athenians prisoners because having meanes to live at Rome they chose rather to serve a Bar●arian And the Thessalians because they had a fruitfull Countrey of their own to till But said he suffer the The●ans to go free for we have left them neither a City to live in nor fields to till This is our condition When the free exereise of the Roman Religion was prohibited in E●gland and they wanted Seminaries at home for the education of their youth and means of Ordination Yet by the bounty of forreign Princes and much more by the free contribution of our own Countrey-men of that communion they had Colledges founded abroad for their subsistance So careful were they to propagate and perpetuate their Religion in their native Countrey The last age before these unhappy tro●bles was as fruitful in works of piety and charity done by Protestants as any one preceding age sin●e the conversion of Britaign● And although we cannot hope for that forreign assistance which they found yet might we have expected a larger supply from home by as much as our professours are much more numerous then theirs were Hath the sword devoured up all the charitable Obadiahs in our Land Or is there no man that layes the affliction of Ioseph to heart Yet God that maintained his people in the Wildernesse without the ordinary supply of food or rayment will not desert us untill he turn our captivity as the rivers in the South Where humane help faileth Divine begins But to draw to a conclusion We have seen in this short Treatlse how the Court of Rome hath been the cause of all the differences

and broiles between the Emperours with other Christian Princes and States and the Popes We have seen that from the excesses abuses innovations and extortions of that Court have sprung all the Schismes of the Eastern and Western Church and of the Occidentall Church within it self We have heard the confession of Pope Adrian that for some yeares by-past many things to be abominated had been in that holy See abuses in spiritual matters excesses in commands and all things out of order We have heard his promise to endeavour the Reformation of his own Court from whence pe●adventure all the evil did spring that as corruption did flow from thence to the inferiour parts so might health and Reformation To which he accounted himself so much more obliged by how much he did see the whole world greedily desire a Reformation We have viewed the representation which nine selected Cardinals and Prelates did make upon their oathes to Paul the third That this lying flattering pri●ciple that the Pope is the Lord of all benefices and therefore could not be Simo●iacall was the fountain from whence as from the Trojan horse so many abuses and so gri●vou diseases had 〈…〉 into the Church and brought it to a desperate condition to the d●rision of Christian Religion and blasp●eming of the Name of Christ and that the cure must begin there from whenc● the disease did sp●ing We may remember the memorial of the King of Spain and the whole Kingdome of Castile That the abuses of the Court of Rom● gave occasion to all the Reformations and Schisme● of the Church And the complaint of the King and Kingdom of Portugal That for these reasons many Kingdomes had withdrawn their obedience and reverential respect from t●e Church of Rome These were no Protestants The first step to health is to know the true cause of our disease It hath been long debated whether the Protestant and Roman Churches be reconciliable or not Far be it from me to make my self a Judge of that Controversie Thus much I have observed that they who understand the sewest controversies make the most and the greatest If questions were truly stated by moderate persons both the number and the height would be much abated Many differences are grounded upon mistakes of one anothers sense Many are meer logomachies or contentions about words Many are meerly Scholastical above the capacity and apprehension of ordinary brains And many doubtlesse are real both in credendis and agendis both in doctrine and discipline But whether the distance be so great or how far any of these are necessary to salvation or do intrench upon the fundamentals of Religion requires a serious judicious and impartial consideration There is great difference between the reconciliation of the persons and the reconciliation of the opinions Men may vary in their judgments And yet preserve Christian unity and charity in their affections one towards another so as the errours be not destructive to fundamental Articles I determine nothing but onely crave leave to propose a question to all moderate Christians who love the peace of the Church and long for the re-union thereof In the first place if the Bishop of Rome were reduced from his universality of Sovereign Jurisdiction jure Divino to his principium unitatis and his Court regulated by the Canons of the Fathers which was the sense of the Councels of Constance and Basile and is desired by many Roman Catholicks as well as we Secondly if the Creed or necessary points of faith were reduced to what they were in the time of the four first Oecumenical Councels according to the decree of the third General Councel Conc. Eph Part. 2. Act. 6. c. 7. Who dare say that the faith of the primitive Fathers was insufficient Admitting no additional Articles bur onely necessary explications And those to be made by the authority of a General Councel or one so general as can be convocated And lastly supposing that some things from whence offences either given or taken which whether right or wrong do not weigh half so much as the unity of Christians were put out of divine offices which would not ●e refused if animosities were taken away and charity restored I say in case these three things were accorded which seem very re●sonable demands whether Christians might not live in an holy communion and joyn in the same publick worship of God free from all Schismatical separation of themselves one from another notwithstanding diversities of opinions which prevail even among the members of the same particular Chrches both with them and us FINIS Nothing more probably objected to the Church of England then Schisme But nothing more unjustly The method observed in this Discourse Every passionate heat not Schisme Acts 15. 〈◊〉 39. Ecclesiastical quarrels of long continuance not alwaies Schisme Hen Holden Append. de Schis Act. 1. pag 484. Infidelity unmasked Sect. 176. pag. 591. Idem pag. 516. The Separaters may be free from Schisme and the other party guilty Act. 19. 9. 1 Tim. 6. 5. Infid unmasked Ch. 7. Sect. 112. pag. 534. To withdraw obedience is not alwaies criminous Schisme Idem pag. 481. Theod. l. 4. c. 14. Cyril ep 18. ad Coelestinum T●m 1. Conc. lib. Rom. P●●t in Anast. Libel ad mancit apud Bar. to 8. an 590. nu 39. 8. Syn. c. 10. What is single Schisme 1 Cor. 1. 10. 1 Cor. 3. 3 Wherein internal Communion doth consist Wherein External Communion doth consist External Communion may be suspended And withdrawn There is not the like necessity of communicating in all Externals Christian Communion ●mplies not unity in all opinions Reg. mor. tit p●aec decal lib. de A. P. Cons. 14. ●e unit eccl cons. 10. Lib. 2. de Rom. pont c. 29. Bar tom 10. an 878. Append. de Schismat Art 4. p. 516. The so●●● of Schisme What the Catholick Church signifies Collat. Carth. Col. 3. Each member of the Catholick Church is Catholick inclusively Schisme is changeable And for the most part complicated with heretical pravity Four waies to become heretical Who are Catholiques Aug. l. 2. cont cas● Who are Schisma●cks What is understood by the Church of England Roman Catholicks first authors of the separation from Rome Act. and Mon p. 965. R●gist epist. Vni Oxon. ep 210. Sac. Syn. an 1530. et an 1532. 24 Hen. 8. c. 12. Romanists first gave the King the title of Head of the Church Resp. ad quaest 74. R●sp ad qu. 75. Conc. Mil. 2. Henry the 8th no friend to the Protestants Hist. Conc. Trid. 23. H. 8. 24. H. 8. 25. H. 8. 26. H. 8. 28. H. 8. The Authors op●nion of Monasteries Supplication of beggars Henry the 8th no friend to Protestants 31. Hen. 8. Much lesse those who joyned with him in the separation from Rome Act. Mon. an 1510. Conc. Tonst et Longlands Hist. aliquot mart et edit an 1550. Apol. sac Reg. pro jur fidel p. 125. England unanimous in casting out the Pope de ver●● obed C●ted