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A49520
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Some dialogues between Mr. G. and others with reflections upon a book called Pax vobis.
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Lynford, Thomas, 1650-1724.; Griffith, Evan, A.M., Minister of Alderly. Pax vobis.
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1687
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Wing L3570; ESTC R218147
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a long time before that happened Cl. I am sorry to hear you say so Master because there are some ill Men in the Parish who if this be once known will clamour against you as if you were a Man of no Conscience in that altho you knew your self to be no Minister you have officiated as one and altho you knew the Church of England to be in the wrong yet you instructed all your People to live and die in the Communion of it Mr. G. Whatever I may have done heretofore I intend to do so no longer Cl. Shall we then lose you Sir presently Mr. G. I do not intend to officiate any longer amongst you but I will send you a very good Curat Cl. And take the Profits your self as you did formerly Mr. G. Ay John Why should I not Cl. O Master it would be better to resign your Living for if he be satisfied in his Mind will those ill Men say that he is no Minister why does he pretend to take care of our Souls Nay if he thinks no Man can be saved in the Communion of the Church of England and therefore has himself left it what a wicked thing is it for him to contribute still to our being educated in the same Errors and to take Mony for deceiving us by his Curat after the same manner as he for several Years has deceived us himself Excuse my Boldness Master I only tell you what Mr. G. and Mr. H. who never loved you heartily will say of you Mr. G. You know John I always liked your freedom Mr. G. and Mr. H. may say what they please but perhaps it will not be long before I return to my Cure my self Cl. To tell you the Truth Master the whole Parish is very much against Popery but if they must have a Popish Minister I am very confident that the generality of them would rather have you with whom they are acquainted than any Stranger whatsoever Mr. G. I am much beholden to them Pray remember me to Esq F. and to every body else Farewell John. Cl. Farewell Master Second Dialogue Betwixt Esq F. and Mr. G. Esq F. PArson Father Lay-Brother What shall I call you You are welcome home Indeed you have served us a fine trick to desert us when we stand in most need of you Mr. G. Sir I am your most humble Servant Pray how does your Lady and the rest of your good Family Esq F. We are all God be thanked in good Health but not a little concerned to hear that our Spiritual Pastor is become a Wanderer Mr. G. That Name rather belonged to me before my return to my true Mother who with open Arms has been pleased to receive her truly penitent Prodigal Son. Esq F. She is very kind to Prodigals for to my knowledg she has received with open Arms many of that Character but I do not think that Name to belong to thee unless upon the account of Conscience and of that I fear thou hast been as Prodigal as the best of them all Mr. G. However prodigal I may seem to be of it nothing but Conscience could have caused this Change in me I should never have forsaken the Communion of the Church of England if I could with a safe Conscience have lived in it Esq F. I am asham'd to hear thee talk of Conscience Was it Conscience for thee to educate us and our Children for several Years according to the Rules of that Church in whose Communion thou didst not believe either us or thy self to be safe Or is it now Conscience in Thee to receive 120 l. per Annum and to barter with some young Fellow for 30 l. to do that among us which thou believest to be a Sin in him and what will help to keep us still in a state of Damnation Mr. G. My Clerk told me indeed that I must expect to be severely censured by some of the Parish but I did hope to have met with better Usage from Esq F. Esq F. What honest Man can forbear to be a little concerned when he sees such doings amongst those who pretend to teach others their Duty Mr. G. The Apostles themselves were reviled and a many ill things were reported of them and I ought not to expect to fare otherwise who am gone over to a persecuted Church Esq F. This is meer Cant as thou very well knowst But I would have Thee take care lest thy Conversion prove not the occasion of a sort of lesser Persecution even from those of thy own Religion For to live in the Communion of one Church and to be all the while of another is so scandalous a Practice that it deserves a seven Year's Mortification and were I to be thy Confessor I would swinge you with a vengeance before I gave you Absolution Pray tell me one thing Have you received Orders from the Church of Rome or not Mr. G. I have not Esq F. Nor will be permitted I suppose in haste before you have made some better Satisfaction to the Church for the Scandal you have given it by your double-dealing Let us see you set out a Narrative of your Conversion with a cloud of Witnesses to justify it Let us see you answer some of those troublesome Papers which the Hereticks at London daily set forth and then perhaps you shall be put into a Capacity of injoying a Living not your own for that is Meat for your Masters but some smaller one of 30 or 40 l. per An. which is a good Competency for one that durst not declare till t'other day who must not expect to feed upon such Delicacies as belong only to those who have deserved well all their Life-time in the Service of the Catholick Cause Mr. G. What I have done has not been with a prospect of any present Advantage It is my greatest Reward and Comfort that I am in the right way to Heaven and I hope that it will not be long before your self and others are perswaded to forsake their Errors as I have done Esq F. You must then produce better Arguments than the World has yet seen for certainly no Cause was ever more bafled than yours of late has been Mr. G. I wonder why you should say so since it is built upon an infallible Foundation Whilst the Reformation relies wholly upon the uncertain Reasonings of every particular Person and gives liberty to every one to believe what he pleases Esq F. What you call an infallible Foundation has been sufficiently shown to be but a sandy one But what you mean by the uncertain Reasonings of every particular Person and by giving leave to believe what a Man pleases I do not well understand Mr. G. My meaning in short is this That the Rule of Faith of the Reformation being Scripture as each Person of sound Judgment in the Church understands it whatever any particular Person judgeth to be the meaning of Scripture will be to him his Rule of Faith and therefore since