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A85402 The Vnrighteous iudge, or an answer to a printed paper, pretending a letter to Mr Io. Goodvvin, by Sir Francis Nethersole knight. Wherein the rough things of the said pretended letter, are made smooth, and the crooked things straight: and the predominant designe of it fully evinced to be, either an unscholarlike oscitancie and mistake, or else somewhat much worse. / By the said Jo. Goodwin. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1649 (1649) Wing G1179; Thomason E540_1; ESTC R205729 15,015 25

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untill I know the worst I could hardly allow you the sanctuary of those words for ought I know as clean for your refuge It is very hard to beleeve but that you know that many Ministers of the Reformed Church have been of that opinion before and besides me if I should be of it Or if you do not indeed yet know it Mr. Prynn's large Tract intituled the Soveraign Power of Parliaments and Kingdomes published in the year 1643. if your please to peruse it will abundantly satisfie you in this behalf In the very front and title page of this Book he rejoyceth over it as being such a piece wherein the superioritie of our own and most other forraign Parliaments States Kingdomes Magistrates collectively considered over and above their lawfull Emperours Kings and Princes is ABOUNDANTLY evinced confirmed by pregnant reasons Resolutions Precedents Histories Anthorities of ALL Sorts c. Pag. 199. of his Discourse he cites a large passage from Zuinglus which begins thus When Princes shall act perfidiously and besides the rule of Christ they may cu● Deo with Gods leave or approbation be deposed by the consent and suffrage either of all or of the better part of the people Afterwards in the same passage the Authour imputes it to the defact of publique Iustice that the wickednesses of Tyrants escape without punishment as they doe And saith he there wants not wayes or means for the taking away of Tyrants but there is a mant of publique Iustice with much more of like import In the same page there is a passage likewise of Calvin which makes it dissimulation joyned with nefarious perfidiousnesse and a fraudulent betraying of the Libertie of the People in Magistrates if they connive at Kings outragiously encroaching upon and insulting over the inferiour common people and shall not withstand their raging licentiousnesse c. But there is a book intituled Lex Rex Printed here at London anno 1644. Composed as is said and as the stile and worth of it importeth though the stile of it I confesse is the least part of its worth by a Minister a man of the greatest eminencie for parts of learning and judgement in the whole Kingdome of Scotland and if fame bee not a flatteresse inferiour to none in pietie this book I would gladly recommend to your serious perusall if you have not already met with it To relate what this Author sayes of his own and citeth of other mens in full comport with the opinion now enquired after would farre exceed the bounds of my intended answer Take a first fruits of the harvest If a King saith this Authour pag. 234. turn a Parricide a Lyon a waster and a destroyer of the People as a man he is subject to the coactive power of the Laws of the land If any law should hinder that a tyrant should not be punished by law it must be because he hath not a superiour but God for Roiallists build all upon this But this ground is false for the Estates of the Kingdom who gave him the Crown are above him and they may take away what they gave him as the law of Nature and God saith The substance of this passage he proveth by severall substantiall arguments following Pag. 404. he saith thus Wee hold that the Law saith with us That VASSALS LOSE THEIR FARME IF THEY PAY NOT WHAT IS DVE Now what are Kings b●● Vas●als to the State who if they turn Tyrants fall from their right again p. 1. 3. If then any cast off the nature of a King and become habitually a Tyrant in so far he is not from God nor any ordinance which God doth own A while after thus There is a Court of necessitie no losse then a Court of Justice and the fundamentall laws must then speake and it is with the Peopl● in this extremitie as if they had no Ruler Many other passages there are in this piece relating to the cause in hand which I respit to your perusall of it Sect. 17 To draw to a con●lusion you tell me towards the close of your Paper that by a perusall of the Books and Papers which you sent unto me I may peradventure finde more cause to retract the main scope of my whole Anti-Cavalerisme then the above mentioned passage thereof Truly Sir if upon the peruseall which you recommend unto me I shall finde no more cause to retract the main scope of my discourse then I have yet found to reverse the passage you speak of I shall finde none at all Howsoever if you have acquited your self in these writings like a work man that need not to be ashamed you could not have recommended their perusall to a man more proselyteable then I. Ballance my reasons and grounds and I shall demurre over poise them and I am yours One of my chiefe Imployments is quotidiè de erroribus meis demere and I shall be really and heartily thankfull unto you or any man that will help me in my work I have not the least expectance that any errour should ever blesse me least of all those which I have published to the danger of others Make me to see in the one what I apprehend in the other and my Anti-Cavalerisme shall be no more to me then your {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} The grounds I build upon in the discourse as I remember are but few the number of them but five Their names those First That Kings have no power but what is given unto them either by God or men Secondly That God gives power or Authoritie unto no man to doe unrighteously Thirdly That if men give any such power it is a meere nullitie Fourthly That to resist any power which God hath not given is not to resist any ordinance of God nor sinfull Fifthly That self defence incase of lawlesse opposition or assault is a cleare dictate of the law of nature Whether there he any more of this kinde or no in that discourse I doe not at present perfectly remember Doe but either shake these foundations or discover to me that I have built besides them you and I shall agree in two words about the retractation of the main scope of my Anti-Cavalerisme I thought to have drawn forth after the same manner the principles upon which my Right and Might stands but these being many more in number I shall not tempt your patience with the muster of them Onely I freely make the same offer concernning these which I did about the other either present mee with such other principles and grounds which will serve these as Aarons rod did the rod of the Inchanters devoure them or shew me where my building stands awry or off from my foundations and the same hand which built it shall soone pull it down Not to be further troublesome unto you at present if you please to strike talies and take satisfaction for my boldnesse from the consideration of your own I shall take it as a pledge of Christian ingenuitie from your hand Howsoever you may aslure your upon sufficient ground that any thing in these papers notwithstanding I am Sir Your very loving friend JOHN GOODVVIN Colemanstreet Jan. 18. 1648. Postscript I acknowledge that since the printing of the former part of this Answer I received a printed copie of that Letter from you which towards the beginning hereof I deny to have received Errata Page 1. line 10. for {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} reade {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} p. 6 l. 1. for shenuously reade strenuously p. 7. l. 2● for ground r. ground● p. 8. l. 15. for the r. the p. 9. l. ●5 for methord r. method p. 11. l. 8. for limitted r. limited p. 13. l. 5. for bolod r. blood l. 27. after in r. this {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} * In Numb. 193. * Ioh. 7. 25. * Exo. 7. 17. * Gen. 9. 6. * 2 Chro. 19. 6 7. * {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} 1 Pet. 2. 17. * Act. 23. 5. Tit. 3. 2. Tim. 2. 12. Ad poenitentiam properat qui citò judicat