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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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inconsideratione_fw-la aliqua_fw-la violent_a sed_fw-la una_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsis_fw-la principibus_fw-la debitam_fw-la sacris_fw-la summorum_fw-la pontificum_fw-la et_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la constitutionibus_fw-la observe_v antiam_fw-la praestent_fw-la decernit_fw-la itaque_fw-la etc._n etc._n 2._o it_o be_v also_o clear_a enough_o these_o word_n ordinatione_fw-la divina_fw-la or_o the_o council_n say_v that_o ecclesiastical_a immunity_n be_v constitute_v by_o divine_a ordination_n import_v no_o more_o of_o necessity_n then_o that_o it_o be_v god_n good_a pleasure_n and_o special_a providence_n and_o care_n of_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n that_o dispose_v affair_n so_o and_o move_v the_o heart_n of_o prince_n and_o people_n to_o give_v such_o exemption_n to_o the_o church_n and_o churchman_n as_o they_o indeed_o have_v for_o so_o we_o say_v that_o by_o god_n ordination_n or_o divine_a ordination_n this_o or_o that_o be_v as_o it_o be_v which_o yet_o argue_v no_o positive_a law_n 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say_v not_o they_o decree_v so_o because_o laic_n be_v not_o lawful_a judge_n in_o the_o controversy_n of_o clerk_n but_o quod_fw-la ipse_fw-la se_fw-la indignum_fw-la fraterno_fw-la consortio_fw-la iudicat_fw-la cvi_fw-la cum_fw-la possit_fw-la per_fw-la ecclesiastice_n judicari_fw-la de_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la male_a sen●iend●_n de_fw-fr judicio_fw-la seculari_fw-la poscit_fw-la auxilium_fw-la because_o he_o render_v himself_o unworthy_a of_o fraternal_a society_n who_o whereas_o he_o may_v be_v judge_v or_o have_v his_o case_n determine_v by_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n man_n of_o his_o own_o fraternity_n entertain_v a_o ill_a opinion_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n when_o he_o desire_v help_v of_o the_o secular_a judge_n i_o say_v therefore_o it_o be_v clear_a enough_o these_o father_n believe_v that_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n or_o judge_n may_v without_o sin_n and_o for_o what_o concern_v himself_o or_o his_o own_o person_n lawful_o determine_v of_o the_o cause_n of_o 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restore_v they_o back_o severus_n hystor_n l._n 2._o in_o fine_a nor_o do_v baronius_n himself_o tom_fw-mi 4._o a_o 381._o n._n 110._o reprehend_v he_o in_o this_o matter_n or_o at_o all_o upon_o account_n of_o usurp_a on_o ecclesiastical_a person_n right_n or_o judgement_n but_o only_o upon_o account_n of_o have_v favour_v heretic_n to_o wit_n forasmuch_o as_o he_o restore_v those_o three_o bishop_n who_o himself_o have_v before_o so_o late_o banish_v exit_fw-la quo_fw-la quidem_fw-la facinore_fw-la say_v baronius_n sibi_fw-la necem_fw-la comparavit_fw-la but_o this_o be_v a_o most_o vain_a judgement_n of_o baronius_n for_o the_o say_v instantius_fw-la and_o priscillianus_n soon_o after_o appeal_n to_o maximus_n the_o tyrant_n emperor_n usurper_n and_o murderer_n of_o gratianus_n be_v by_o he_o as_o be_v or_o at_o least_o pretend_v to_o be_v a_o earnest_n catholic_n call_v to_o his_o own_o presence_n to_o be_v judge_v again_o by_o his_o imperial_a authority_n the_o catholic_n bishop_n 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