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A04328 An apologie for Iohn Wickliffe shewing his conformitie with the now Church of England; with answere to such slaunderous obiections, as haue beene lately vrged against him by Father Parsons, the apologists, and others. Collected chiefly out of diuerse works of his in written hand, by Gods especiall providence remaining in the publike library at Oxford, of the honorable foundation of Sr. Thomas Bodley Knight: by Thomas James keeper of the same. James, Thomas, 1573?-1629.; Wycliffe, John, d. 1384. 1608 (1608) STC 14445; ESTC S108215 68,345 90

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truly to see his Lawes executed and iustice d Kings are bound to see their Subiects haue right De fundam Legū Anglioe l. c. 36 sincerely administred and if he happen to be defectiue in his duty by suffering the sword of iustice to rust in the scabbard and his people to perish for want of gouernment then he telleth him that he is not properly and truly a king that is e Perdens nomen officij ordinis in effectu lb. pag. 513. in effect and operation which words are spokē by way of exhortation but so farre was he from f This crime of rebellion and treason was obiected vnto him in his life time De Ver. Scrip pag. 179. p. 570. which he answereth very fully lb. mutinie himselfe or perswading others to rebellion that I dare bee bolde to speake it that neuer any man of his ranke for the times wherein he liued did more stoutly and valiantly g His maine argument is out of the common Law of this land quia a liter non haberent Reges in Regnis suis plenae pacis custodiam maintaine the kings Supremacie in all causes as wel as ouer al parsons Ecclesiastical and ciuil against al vsurped Primacie and forraine Iurisdictions and his maine reason was this to omit al others else h The King should ●ot be able to doe right to his subiects De fundam legum Angliae l. c. 36. He writes directly and plainly against those th at saie Rex Angliae non est Rex totius Angliae sed Regulus paruae partis super residuum vero mortificatum est Papa Dominus veruntamen non disputandum inquiunt de ista materia quousque●uerit in effectu potentius stabilita sed tole●●ndae sunt iniuriae Dominorum Secularium quovsque arisent opportunitas temporis ●b pag. 424. This he takes to be treason and against this he writes he should not be King ouer al England but regulus parua partis a pettie gouernour of some small parts of the Realme And as touching his i He noted thē of Treason in many points for giuing our gold to Al●ēs and ●omtimes our enimies for enabling the Pope to fight with the King with his owne● money di●abling the King by ●eseruations prouisions dispensations Collations presētations of so many barbarous ●ud e' vnlettered straingers who neuer saw ne came to see their parishioners finally by threatning the King that if they might not haue what they would they would goe out of the land come againe with bright heads And as he'saies looke whether this be treason or no Contra Frat. mend Cap. 27. pag. 45. pag 358. rebellious followers mutinous k He that set the writing vpon the d●re at Paules was one walter Disse a Friar Carmelite therin he shewed the abhominable liues of Sodomittie treason a●d murders of the Friars he had preached the same before in London and was readie to iusti●ie his accusation and therfore I see little reason whie it should be caled a Libel Wa●sg pag. 358. Libellers if euer there were any such as the Apologists recite out of Stowes Walsingham I trust it is not imagined or looked for that he should be better attended on thē Christ was which had followers of al sorts sōe which followed him for bread some to see the miracles that he did some to take him in his words and so it might fare with VVickliffe and his schollers But if I be not deceiued the matter of rebellion sedition is wholly mistaken and wrongfully imputed to l Walsingham recitans opiniones haere●icas lo. Ball do● uit inquit peruer●a d●gmata pe●fidi lo. Wickl●ffe pag 292. See the Catholike diu●ne in his pretended answere to S Ed. Cook pag. 308. Iohn VVickliffe out of whose works I speake of as many as haue yet come vnto my hands though you rack them to the worst there is not so much as the least suspition to be drawne of words tending to disloialty but I read in m Froissard vol. 2 pag. 80 Y estoit vngfol prestre de la Conte de kent qu●● appelloit tehan ●alle pour les folles parolles ●l auo●● este mys en p●●'on devers l' larceu●●que de Cantorbie p●r ●rois fois lb. estoient bien soixante m●lle avoientvng Souuerain Capitaine qui● appelloit Watre T●llier auecques luy estoient de sa compaignie Iaques Straw Iehan Balle lb. p. 80. Fraissard of one Iohn Ball one of Bals Priests for ought that I know who drew multitudes of people after him was the chiefe cause of that great rebellion of the Commons vnder the cōduct of VVat Tyler and Iacke Straw which n Il-preschoit leur disoit Bonnes gens les choses ne peuuent pas bien aler ● n Angleterre ne yront iusques a tant que biens yront tout d● commun quil ne sera ne villains ne gentil● hommes que nous soio●s tous vniz que les Seigneurs ne soient plus grans maistres que nous c. lb. Lan ●il trois cens quatre xx sept lb. taught this doctrine to condemne al Laws despise the Cleargie and to rebell against there Soveraigne because there was an equalitie of al men and communion of al things which is pure Anabaptisme or Diabolisme rather and because he liued about the time of VVickliffe therefore this foule and monstrous heresie is by a malitious kinde of o Vide Tho. Walsingham pag 29● mistaking laid to VVickliffes charge which was as p lo Ball seditionem excitat ad wickliffianorum inuidiam ex illa secta proditione prodijsse quidam fingunt falso equidem ignoranter-Tunc sparsa Wicklefi doctrina-sed vt in omni nouitate ac mutatione fierisolet atque ho●iernis temporibus factitatum est nūciata luce Euangelij libertate Christiana insana plebs scelerum impunitatem omnium in Ecclesia atque Rep ordinum per●urbationem sperat Auctor Antiq Britannicarum pag. 2●9 far from preaching anie such doctrine as they ● are frō any truth sincerity or ingenuity that affirme it as hath beene obserued by one very iudicious in collecting the Antiquities of our Land The 7. Obiection Apol. Tract 2. Cap. 2. p. 108. He was more giuen to scoffing and prating then became a sober Diuine The Answere This fault was obiected vnto him in his life time whervnto heshapeth this modest most Christiā answere q Testis sit mihi Deus ego principaliter intendo honorem Dei vtilitatem Ecclesiae ex veneratione Scripturae ex obseruantia Legis Christi quod si surrepserit cum ista intentione sinistra intentiovan●e gloriae questus seculi et zeli vindict●e ego de h●c d●leo per dei gratiā praecauebo De Ver. Scr. p. 145. God is my witnesse that I principally intende his glory and the weale of the Church by seeking to honor the Scripture and obserue Christs
free-hold to the great confusion of Parsons and al that wrangling Sect I doubt not but to demonstrate this point very cleerely vnto you that VVickliffe was as earnest for the maintenance of the Cleargie and as bitter an inveigher against al c Scribit contra auferentes predia Ecclesijssiue Reges siue alios excipiūtur tamen pie auferentes a malis De Ver Scrip p. 445. Simoniacal Lay-Patrons or Temporall Lords detaining the right of the Church as anie of them d Ad Parochianos pertinet in salu●em animae Decimas ac oblationes idoneo ministrare De Vet. Scrip. pag 435. that hee tels thē in expresse wordes that it is in Salutem anim● it is as much as their soule is worth to paye their Tithes duly and truely vnto the Parson and that in case the people standing as they doe to this day in many places too ill affected vnto the Ministery should either at their pleasure or vpon displeasure● with d●aw there e Oportet Sacerdot●s Chri sti subtrahere verbum Dei ab indispositis 2. si populus fuerit sic obstinatus inobediens S. matriEccle siae quod prohibeat vel nō ministret vitae necessaria suo Euangelistae De. Ver. Scr. pag. 435. temporal almes he may with draw his spiritual alms from them But perhaps you will replie say Tythes are indeede to be paide vnto good Ministers and preachers but what shal we pay them vnto one that wee know to be a lewd companion a verie varlet an open drunkard adulterer or Fornicator or a murderer of mens soules aswel as of their bodies Yes verily in VVickl●ffes iudgement f Proposito qnod sit fornicator vel alio noto●io crimine irretitus De Ver. Scrip. p. 413. vnlesse the fact be very notorious indeed such g lb. pag. 420. as the people know per iudic●um operationis by their liues and manners h Laici non debent iudicare de vita vel opere praelatorum hoc praelatorum est lb. pag. 420. for it is not for them otherwise to iudge their Minister they haue not iudicium Iurisdictionis and although they may iudge their liues yet they ma●e not in any sort take away the Tythes quite and clea●e from the Church but i It is lawful to parishioners to withhold their Tithes for open for nication of their Curate and turne thē into better vse In suppl ad parl p. 14. His meaning is this as hee interprete●h him self in the same place that if the Priest be reproued of God for his sinnes that is for great and open sinnes he should be put out of his office the Sacrifices shoulden not be youen to him but taken fro him as God commandeth fro the high Priests Hely a nother true man walking in Gods waies as did Samuel should be ordained to receaue●such Sacrifices lb p. 12. sequester thē as it were for the next Incumbent in this wise The partie delinquent is either so vitious a man of life or doctrine as that there is no hope of his amendmēt or els hee hath cōmitted some such fact as wilful murder or Treason whereby he is ip so facto depriuable in Law or finallie he is one that seemes to bee corrigible the two former are to be remoued or degraded the ministerie the later sort of offenders are thus to bee proceeded against k Laici tenentur Praela●o prodere Clericum taliter criminosum De Verit. Scrip. pag. 428. cōplaint must be made vnto the Ordinarie after he hath been l Rect●tes Ecclesiae non sunt statim iudicandi lb. pag. 430. three times charitably informed and admonished of his fault by the Parishioners and m Deficiente correctione Praelati ●b pag. 430. there followes no amendment if the Ordinarie refuse to punish or winke at his offences so scandalous vnto the Church of God the n Mandentu● Episcopo castig andi lb. pag. 453. Bishoppe of the Diocesse must be informed thereof or if he refuse to giue satisfactiō vnto the Parishioners the Archbishop must be interested in the cause and if o Nusquam foret necesse Laicos Clerum corripere si praelati plenè corriperent se suos secūdum regulam Scripturae De Verit. Scrip. pag. 456. neither Ordinarie Bishop nor Archbishop will right them then maie the p Ad sustinendum istam legem Ecclefiae ordinantur Reges potentes in Sa●culo vt deficiente Clero ab eius completione suppleatur per-brachium saeculare lb. p. 4●9 king by his royall auctoritie either in person or by his Temporal Officers and Ministers heare q Examinatiō of abilitie and not abilitie being not taken from the ordinarie -It shal be iudged by the Kings Lawe when a benefice shal be said void and when not The King is Patron Paramōt of al the benefices within the Realme he is bound to see his subiects haue right in that behalfe within the Realme and that in that case from him lieth no appeale De fundam Legum Angliae 1. c. 36. determine the offence though the offence be of that nature that it properly belong vnto their conusance by r Reges nedum habcnt capitale dominium super bona Pseudocler sed super corpus quia aliter non foret talis eius homo ligeus lb. pag. 453. Debent punire tales notorios tanquam laicos vel amplius-aliter non haberent Reges in Regnis suis plenae pacis custodiā lb. pag. 453. els the King should not be able to doe right to his subiects De fundam leg pag 125. punishing the offender either in bodie or goods But as VVickliffe saith the s Au●erre a Clerico bo na fortunae est paena mitissima punire per charitatem per ablationem temporalium vel dignitatis officij est puni●e misericor diter citra dignum De Ver. Scr. pag. 430. mildest course is by taking awaie the tithes from him not frō the Church for that were against his owne rule because t ●b pag. 415. Decimae praed●ales non debent subtrahi cum ad Ecclesiam pertineant in cuius damnum factum praepositi nō redundat lest many good Ministers should be punished for one lewd Clergie mans fault And this the u The Kings Regaltie askes by old statute that the King may in many in case take Temporalties fro Clarkscontra Frat mend pag. 49. King may doe ashe proueth very stronglie out of all the uu Patet in Sciptura quomodo Domini Temporales habent potestatem ad rectifican dum Sacerdotium-quia sapiens Salomon cum Sacerdote a Deo constitu●o ad regni sui stabilimentum laudabili●er ita fecit multo magis in Nouo Testamento de Sacerdotibus Caesareis Quo● Reges Principes ad cause Regnorum gubernacula ditauerūt quia principum est curare v● omnes Sacerdotes sua ●fficia exequantur-secundum Leges Regni Iuris Ciuilis Canonici alias rei De Ver Scrip. pag.
469. lawes that are and by the example of the wisest king that euer rained Now because there cā be no smoke without some fire I wil in a word or two informe you of the groūd of this their accusation how they were misled or VVickliffe mistaken in this point and so dismisse our aged Father Parsons with his threefolde or rather manifold peruersions VVickliffe in all his bookes and treatises doth euerie where commend a kind of x Ad hoc vadit tota mea ●entētia quā impugnant vt viz. Cle●ici sint pauperes in facto v●lin animo vel vtrinque● omnino quod cauea● ab auaritia fastu seculi cum alijs malitijs quae sequūtur De Ver. Scrip pag. 570. Qui perfecte linquunt omnia iudicabunt mundum lb. pag. 512. De. mundi contēptu pauper tate Euangelica lb. p 196. Evangelicall pouertie perswading Cleargie men to renounce the vaine pompe and glorie of the world and to lead if it were possible an Apostolical or Evangelical life to be cōtent or y Cōtra frat mend pag. paide if we han lif elode to be hiled with that is with food and raiment this estate to Priest in those daies vnmarried he z Status pauperiei ●st status perfectissimus viatori InExpos Decal pag● 50. Creuit Eccle sia magis secundum pauperem statum De Verit. Script pag. 465. commēdeth as the better yet he approued wel enough of vsing the things of this world and he himselfe enioied Tythes went a De Verit. Scrip. p 192. Inter alia peccata de quibus time● hoc est vnum prae●puum quod consumendo in excessiuo victu vestitu bona pauperum deficio dandum exemplum alijs lb. Quod aut cō munem vitam viuendo frequenter auide lau●e manduco dolenter profiteor cum si illud hypoc●itice simulate volue●e testarentur contra me socij commensales lb. well apparelled and kept a good table of that which was his owne For I read not of anie great gifts that he had giuen him of anie man Temporal Lord State or Potentate Perhaps being so wel acquainted with the Common Lawyers he was the likelier to keepe his own So that to conclude this point he did not b Amor temporalium remouendus De Ver Scr. p. 462. Omnia mala introduct● in Ecclesiam per affectionem inordinatam temporalium ●n Expos. Decal pag. 150. Omnes homines debent praecise secundum mensuram illam vti bonis temporalibus secundum quam promouent ad aeterna De Ver Scrip. pag. 450. actually debar Ministers from hauing but from ouer much affecting the things of this world which were to be renounced per cogitationem affectum in minde and affection and so forsooth for vrging this doctrine and taxing there abuses he was c Accusantes pseudo Sacerdotes statim censen●ur hostes EcclesiaeDe Verit. Scrip. pag. 460. thought to bee a sore enemie to all the Cleargie and a sharpe inuaier against Tithes And thus much shall suffice for an answere vnto all indifferent Parsons concerning Father Parsons lewd and frivolous obiections it remaineth that we proceede to discusse and examine our Apologists reasons vvhich may seeme to some men more forcible because there proofes are fetched from our own writers for the most part for that which is alleadged as out of VVickliffes works I do shrewdly suspect to be verbatim taken out of VValdē d See both their Prefaces and Protestations you shal finde thē alike true which is as true in his reports of VVickliffe as Niceph●rus Callistus is in his Ecclesiasticall stories both of them professe great sinceritie in words yet in deed haue neither truth nor honestie in their words The 1. Obiection of the Apologists Apol. Tr. 2. Cap. 2. p. 106. HE seemed to contemne all Temporal goods for the loue of eternal riches adioined himselfe to the Begging Fryars approuing their pouertie and extolling their perfection The Answere HE did not only seeme but in effect as farre forth a● became a sanctified and regenerate man did e Certus sū si vixero in confessione ●orū vsque ad mortē habeam cō summatā con uersationem correspondētem quod relinquam mun dum vel temporalia per carnis mū di crucifixionem De Ver. Scrip. p. 188. cōtemne all Temporall goods and that for the only loue of eternal riches This is a grieuous imputation or rather commendation if you consider the duty of f Nemo excusatur ab hac paupertate De Ver. Scrip. pag. 516. everie good Christian and the holy profession which he makes in Baptisme For saie VVickliffe perswaded al other men to be as himselfe was that did neither g He is most to praise that least setteth by this worlde and perfectliest loueth heauen De. Ver. Scrip. pag. 346. set nor settle his affections vpō ' the world which preached against Couetousnes because he had heard S. Paul call it Idolatrie against an inordinate and preposterous affection of the temporal things of this life because the Fathers and Scripture are against it what of al this How many Sermons Epistles ' and Postels of Jesuites and Friars are extant which doe commend the same doctrine vnto vs● with exquisite and emphaticall perswasions allusions and amplifications So that hitherto we see there is no harme done That which follows out of Stow the old that he adioined himselfe to the Begging Fryars is taken out of Walsinghā which was Stowes Auctour and VVickliffes too great enemie to be beleeued Master Stow not to defraud him of his iust praise was a paineful Citizen by trade a Taylour by his industrie a Chronicler so well minded to the publike good that for fault of better writers he tooke vpō him at the first to record such things as happened in that Metropolis and chiefe Cittie and being somewhat encouraged in his labour hee tooke vpon him to deduce the Historie of the whole Island from the first beginning and to contract al our stories into one smal volume But here his learning failed him for being not able h M. Io. Stow a paineful writer but not so iudicious for want of the knowledge of the Latine tong wherof he was vtterly ignorant as himselfe ingenuously professed vntome and therfore was compeled to haue his latine bookes translated for him to his exceeding great cost and charges the greater was his cōmendations to vnderstand his Auctors how should he iudge them And not iudging them how could he write or cite anie thing out of them iudicioussie pertinentlie and as became an Historian I spare to speake what I know concerning his books his reuerend old age and incredible zeale to the common good shal be to me insteed of so many garments to couer his historicall imperfections But to come to the point thus our Apologists do reason Master Stow out of his trāslated Walsinghā saies that VVickliffe was of the order of the Begging Friars