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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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the_o multiplicite_a of_o excommunication_n tot_fw-la hodie_fw-la fiunt_fw-la &_o officiales_fw-la quod_fw-la vix_fw-la est_fw-la aliquis_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v so_o many_o excommunication_n now_o a_o day_n by_o official_o that_o scarce_o any_o man_n that_o fear_v god_n can_v live_v in_o the_o world_n with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n whereupon_o it_o be_v direct_v ut_fw-la caveant_fw-la ab_fw-la earum_fw-la multiplicatione_n etc._n etc._n that_o they_o shall_v beware_v of_o multiply_a excômunication_n lest_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o contempt_n these_o be_v the_o shower_n of_o chancellor_n and_o official_o excommunication_n that_o flee_v fast_o than_o lighten_v in_o tempest_n object_n 9_o in_o our_o understanding_n the_o minister_n of_o the_o parish_n do_v give_v his_o consent_n to_o the_o petition_n p._n 23._o ans_fw-fr what_o consent_n call_v you_o this_o when_o the_o chancellor_n or_o official_a send_v his_o mandate_n and_o the_o minister_n must_v denounce_v the_o sentence_n 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never_o use_v and_o in_o these_o point_n reform_v wherein_o we_o think_v it_o be_v enforce_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o law_n of_o this_o land_n 1._o the_o oath_n whereby_o a_o man_n be_v force_v to_o accuse_v himself_o shall_v not_o be_v use_v in_o ordinary_a proceed_n and_o in_o trifle_v and_o common_a cause_n as_o now_o it_o be_v but_o in_o weighty_a and_o great_a matter_n which_o tend_v to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o common_a peace_n or_o be_v against_o the_o state_n such_o as_o be_v handle_v in_o the_o most_o honourable_a court_n of_o the_o star-chamber_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v use_v rather_o in_o civil_a cause_n then_o canonical_a as_o in_o matter_n of_o trust_n exod._n 22._o 11._o and_o so_o by_o the_o imperial_a law_n in_o actione_n depositi_fw-la a_o man_n may_v be_v onerate_v with_o a_o oath_n cod._n lib._n 4._o tit_n 1._o leg_n 10._o so_o in_o action_n of_o debt_n the_o debtor_n may_v be_v put_v to_o his_o
double_a profession_n 2._o but_o see_v these_o cause_n as_o matrimonial_a testamentary_a decimarie_n be_v now_o annex_v to_o the_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n such_o matter_n as_o they_o call_v of_o instance_n it_o be_v fit_a they_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o civilian_n in_o such_o case_n let_v they_o not_o only_o be_v adviser_n but_o judge_n but_o as_o for_o matter_n of_o office_n as_o they_o be_v call_v which_o be_v mere_o ecclesiastical_a we_o suppose_v that_o minister_n be_v better_a able_a to_o judge_v than_o civilian_n and_o herein_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a they_o shall_v be_v assistant_n to_o advise_v much_o less_o judge_n to_o determine_v let_v they_o contain_v themselves_o within_o their_o own_o element_n 2._o whereas_o we_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o book_n of_o the_o perpetual_a government_n of_o the_o 320._o pag._n 320._o church_n let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o there_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o judge_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n take_v not_o upon_o they_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n commit_v to_o the_o apostle_n their_o suspension_n excommunication_n etc._n etc._n they_o claim_v not_o by_o god_n law_n but_o by_o man_n wherefore_o see_v it_o be_v confess_v that_o this_o manner_n of_o excommunication_n by_o lay_a man_n be_v humane_a the_o petitioner_n request_n be_v reasonable_a that_o this_o abuse_n be_v reform_v and_o such_o usurper_n upon_o the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n restrain_v four_o it_o be_v object_v if_o the_o discipline_n be_v once_o a_o foot_n we_o shall_v then_o hear_v tell_v of_o 22._o ans_fw-fr p._n 22._o lay_v elder_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o the_o petitioner_n say_v nothing_o of_o lay_v elder_n in_o their_o petition_n but_o that_o there_o have_v be_v such_o lay_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n which_o have_v intermedle_v in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v as_o reverend_a d._n fulke_n confess_v 13._o fulke_n ans_fw-fr to_o the_o rhem._n 1_o tim._n ●_o sect_n 13._o out_o of_o s._n ambrose_n thus_o write_v or_o else_o he_o mean_v of_o those_o elder_n that_o saint_n ambrose_n speak_v of_o upon_o the_o first_o verse_n of_o this_o chapter_n that_o be_v appoint_v only_o for_o government_n not_o for_o teach_v 2._o be_v not_o the_o like_a practise_v in_o the_o high_a commission_n for_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a wherein_o diverse_a reverend_a person_n of_o the_o civil_a state_n be_v commissioner_n and_o let_v not_o our_o brethren_n be_v so_o hot_a against_o lay_v elder_n see_v i_o hope_v they_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o they_o may_v have_v voice_n in_o sinod_n and_o what_o great_a inconvenience_n be_v it_o for_o lay_v man_n to_o be_v assistant_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n then_o for_o clergy_n elder_n of_o lay_v elder_n man_n to_o interpose_v themselves_o in_o civil_a and_o why_o may_v not_o as_o well_o civil_a person_n if_o it_o so_o please_v the_o state_n be_v of_o the_o convocation_n house_n as_o ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o parliament_n as_o it_o be_v practise_v in_o k._n henry_n the_o 8._o his_o 1182_o fox_n p._n 1182_o reign_n when_o that_o worthy_a lord_n crumwell_n be_v make_v vicegerent_n in_o matter_n ecclesiastical_a and_o be_v himself_o present_a in_o the_o assembly_n and_o at_o the_o disputation_n of_o the_o bishop_n 3._o yet_o be_v we_o far_o from_o make_v he_o a_o clergy_n man_n as_o the_o confuter_n a_o little_a before_o confess_v though_o they_o have_v soon_o forget_v themselves_o of_o civilian_n in_o these_o word_n a_o chancellor_n or_o a_o commissary_n be_v not_o a_o lie_v man_n in_o this_o case_n and_o yet_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o these_o lie_v elder_n which_o be_v but_o assistant_n in_o the_o presbytery_n with_o other_o &_o they_o who_o be_v sole_a agent_n and_o principal_n in_o ecclesiastical_a court_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v retort_v the_o confuter_n say_v upon_o their_o own_o head_n that_o they_o reprove_v other_o for_o speak_v for_o lay_v elder_n and_o allow_v the_o same_o themselves_o but_o there_o be_v a_o principle_n in_o the_o law_n quod_fw-la semel_fw-la 21._o reg._n iuris_fw-la 21._o placuit_fw-la iterum_fw-la displicere_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la that_o with_o once_o do_v please_v can_v again_o displease_v and_o hierome_n can_v have_v tell_v they_o perdit_fw-la ocean_n hieron_n ocean_n authoritatem_fw-la dicendi_fw-la cujus_fw-la sermo_fw-la opere_fw-la destruitur_fw-la he_o lose_v the_o authority_n of_o teach_v that_o overthrow_v his_o word_n by_o his_o work_n of_o excommunication_n for_o trifle_n the_o excuse_n be_v that_o man_n be_v not_o excommunicate_v for_o trifle_n but_o for_o their_o contempt_n ans_fw-fr p._n 23._o answ_n indeed_o according_a to_o our_o saviour_n christ_n rule_n he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n 18_o mat._n 18._o 18_o must_v be_v hold_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n but_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o prove_v that_o the_o official_a and_o his_o register_n make_v the_o church_n neither_o shall_v our_o brethren_n be_v ever_o able_a to_o show_v it_o 2._o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o letter_n of_o excommunication_n presuppose_v a_o contumacy_n and_o contempt_n precede_v but_o he_o be_v not_o contumacious_a which_o at_o the_o first_o monition_n appear_v not_o upon_o every_o cause_n pretend_v as_o it_o may_v appear_v by_o these_o reason_n take_v out_o of_o the_o canon_n 1._o first_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_a before_o the_o offence_n be_v prove_v against_o he_o nemo_fw-la episcopus_fw-la aliquem_fw-la excommunicet_fw-la priusquam_fw-la causa_fw-la probetur_fw-la cause_n 2._o qu._n 1._o c._n 11._o but_o his_o contumacy_n be_v not_o prove_v who_o upon_o the_o first_o citation_n appear_v not_o for_o he_o may_v be_v ignorant_a of_o it_o or_o otherwise_o necessary_o let_v ergo_fw-la such_o a_o one_o be_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a 2._o such_o only_a be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v as_o be_v otherwise_o incorrigible_a as_o by_o christ_n rule_n he_o must_v be_v take_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n that_o refuse_v to_o hear_v the_o adomonition_n of_o one_o of_o two_o last_o of_o the_o church_n anathema_n non_fw-la debet_fw-la imponi_fw-la nisi_fw-la illi_fw-la qui_fw-la aliter_fw-la non_fw-la potuerit_fw-la corrigi_fw-la anathema_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v impose_v but_o upon_o he_o that_o can_v not_o otherwise_o be_v amend_v council_n melden_v c._n 56._o excommunicatio_fw-la non_fw-la infligenda_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la aliter_fw-la corrigi_fw-la noluerint_fw-la excommunication_n must_v be_v inflict_v upon_o such_o as_o can_v otherwise_o be_v correct_v coloniens_fw-la par_fw-fr 13._o c._n 4._o but_o they_o which_o once_o cite_v appear_v not_o be_v not_o straight_o way_n incorrigible_a ergo._n etc._n etc._n 3._o excommunication_n shall_v be_v only_o inflict_v for_o criminal_a offence_n non_fw-la nisi_fw-la pro_fw-la mortali_fw-la debet_fw-la imponi_fw-la crimine_fw-la meldens_n ibid._n excommunicationis_fw-la sententiae_fw-la ob_fw-la criminales_fw-la tantum_fw-la causas_fw-la easque_fw-la valdè_fw-la grave_n &_o lethale_n feruntur_fw-la augustans_fw-la c._n 33._o as_o the_o apostle_n bide_v a_o heretic_n to_o be_v after_o once_o or_o twice_o admonition_n reject_v tit._n 3._o 10_o as_o likewise_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n award_v the_o writ_n de_fw-fr excommunicato_fw-la capiendo_fw-la to_o take_v place_n only_o when_o the_o excommunication_n proceed_v upon_o contempt_n of_o some_o original_a matter_n of_o criminal_a offence_n as_o of_o heresy_n refuse_v to_o come_v to_o the_o church_n incontinency_n usury_n simony_n perjury_n idolatry_n but_o every_o absence_n upon_o the_o first_o citation_n proceed_v not_o of_o any_o such_o contempt_n wherefore_o a_o man_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o the_o fee_n of_o the_o court_n or_o 27_o can_n 23._o q._n 4._o c._n 27_o such_o like_a pro_fw-la vindicte_fw-la propriae_fw-la iniuriae_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o be_v revenge_v for_o your_o own_o wrong_n you_o have_v give_v sentence_n of_o anathema_n which_o be_v against_o the_o cannon_n penitus_fw-la interdicimus_fw-la we_o forbid_v that_o for_o covetousness_n sake_n none_o dare_v to_o excommunicate_v any_o 49._o lateranens_fw-la sub_fw-la innocent_a 3._o c._n 49._o 4._o the_o canon_n allow_v that_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v twice_o or_o thrice_o cite_v before_o he_o be_v excommunicate_a secunda_fw-la vel_fw-la tertia_fw-la admonitione_n interposita_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la sentetia_fw-mi procedat_fw-la caus_n 24._o 3._o 15._o neither_o shall_v the_o first_o citation_n be_v peremptory_a diem_fw-la peremptorium_fw-la ad_fw-la primam_fw-la citationem_fw-la non_fw-la statuendum_fw-la especial_o 5._o lateranens_fw-la sub_fw-la alexan_n p._n 3._o c._n 5._o for_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n but_o upon_o great_a &_o urgent_a necessity_n s._n paul_n allow_v a_o manifest_a heretic_n two_o admonition_n before_o he_o be_v reject_v much_o more_o where_o the_o offence_n be_v not_o manifest_a a_o canonical_a that_o be_v thrice_o admonition_n shall_v be_v use_v according_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o oxford_n nemo_fw-la excommunicationem_fw-la promulget_fw-la etc._n etc._n no_o man_n shall_v denounce_v excommunication_n where_o the_o excess_n be_v not_o
oath_n ibid._n leg_n 9_o 2._o this_o oath_n be_v minister_v propter_fw-la inopiam_fw-la probationum_fw-la where_o other_o proof_n fail_v cod._n lib._n 4._o tit_n 1._o leg_n 3._o and_o the_o canon_n law_n say_v in_o ipso_fw-la causae_fw-la initio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la à_fw-la quaestionibus_fw-la inchoandum_fw-la they_o must_v not_o begin_v in_o the_o entrance_n of_o the_o suit_n with_o question_n so_o in_o the_o case_n of_o jealousy_n between_o man_n and_o wife_n where_o no_o other_o evidence_n be_v the_o woman_n be_v charge_v with_o a_o oath_n or_o execration_n numb_a 5._o 21._o but_o now_o a_o man_n convent_v be_v first_o put_v to_o his_o oath_n though_o other_o profess_v be_v at_o hand_n 3._o where_o one_o be_v press_v with_o this_o oath_n a_o party_n and_o accuser_n shall_v be_v give_v that_o he_o which_o be_v accuse_v may_v refer_v juramentum_fw-la may_v have_v liberty_n to_o return_v the_o like_a oath_n upon_o his_o accuser_n cod._n lib._n 4._o tit_n 1._o leg_n 9_o justinian_n give_v this_o reason_n non_fw-la debet_fw-la respuere_fw-la in_o persona_fw-la sva_fw-la quod_fw-la placuit_fw-la in_o persona_fw-la adversarij_fw-la he_o must_v not_o refuse_v to_o swear_v in_o his_o own_o person_n see_v he_o put_v his_o adversary_n to_o it_o ibid._n leg_n 12._o this_o course_n be_v hold_v in_o the_o honourable_a court_n of_o chancery_n that_o where_o that_o party_n be_v examine_v upon_o his_o oath_n his_o adversary_n that_o put_v in_o the_o bill_n appear_v against_o he_o this_o stand_v forth_o of_o the_o accuser_n be_v approve_v by_o our_o saviour_n woman_n where_o be_v thy_o accuser_n joh_n 8._o 10._o the_o heathen_a judge_n have_v this_o equity_n to_o say_v unto_o paul_n i_o will_v hear_v thou_o when_o thy_o accuser_n be_v come_v act._n 23._o 35._o the_o canon_n be_v most_o pregnant_a this_o way_n 1._o julij_fw-la 1._o decr_n 1._o that_o a_o accuser_n shall_v be_v produce_v in_o judgement_n non_fw-la oportet_fw-la quenquam_fw-la iudicari_fw-la aut_fw-la damnari_fw-la antequam_fw-la accusatores_fw-la suos_fw-la present_n habeat_fw-la none_n ought_v to_o be_v judge_v or_o condemn_v before_o he_o have_v his_o accuser_n present_a non_fw-la ante_fw-la accusatus_fw-la supplicio_fw-la deputetur_fw-la quant_fw-fr accusator_fw-la presentitur_fw-la that_o the_o party_n accuse_v be_v not_o adjudge_v to_o punishment_n before_o his_o accuser_n be_v produce_v wormaten_v c._n 42._o necesse_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la documentum_fw-la &_o accusatorum_fw-la &_o accusatum_fw-la simul_fw-la adesse_fw-la it_o be_v necessary_a according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o both_o the_o accuser_n and_o accuse_v be_v present_a at_o once_o nicol._n 1._o de_fw-fr judic._n c._n 10._o no_o cause_n shall_v be_v admit_v to_o any_o to_o determe_v nisi_fw-la personae_fw-la appareant_fw-la quae_fw-la volunt_fw-la personam_fw-la criminosi_fw-la impetere_fw-la unless_o the_o party_n appear_v that_o will_v accuse_v the_o guilty_a person_n thus_o both_o by_o scripture_n law_n imperial_a canon_n of_o bishop_n counsel_n provincial_a and_o general_a it_o be_v evident_a that_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o be_v condemn_v without_o a_o accuser_n wherein_o the_o course_n which_o be_v take_v by_o the_o minister_a of_o a_o oath_n exit_fw-la officio_fw-la fail_v 4._o clergy_n man_n be_v privilege_v not_o to_o be_v examine_v upon_o their_o oath_n citra_fw-la iniuriam_fw-la questiones_fw-la testimonium_fw-la dicunt_fw-la cod._n lib._n 1._o tit_n 6._o leg_n 8._o theodos_fw-la they_o must_v give_v their_o testimony_n not_o force_v thereto_o by_o question_n as_o they_o be_v except_v by_o this_o law_n from_o torture_n of_o body_n so_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n from_o the_o force_n of_o their_o conscience_n especial_o the_o bishop_n shall_v not_o exact_v such_o a_o compulsive_a oath_n of_o his_o clergy_n nullus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la clericos_fw-la suos_fw-la nisi_fw-la forte_fw-fr quibus_fw-la ecclesiasticarum_fw-la rerum_fw-la 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apostle_n and_o presbyter_n assemble_v in_o council_n say_v it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o coelestium_fw-la council_n african_a can_v 138._o epist_n ad_fw-la coelestium_fw-la to_o we_o act._n 15._o 28._o thus_o say_v the_o council_n of_o african_a unless_o there_o be_v any_o that_o think_v god_n inspire_v one_o particular_a person_n with_o righteousness_n and_o forsake_v a_o number_n of_o priest_n assemble_v in_o synod_n again_o there_o will_v arise_v less_o danger_n to_o the_o church_n by_o this_o mean_n for_o there_o be_v a_o rule_n in_o the_o law_n excommunicatus_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la excommunicare_fw-la he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v himself_o can_v excommunicate_v another_o cause_n 24._o q._n 1._o c._n 4._o but_o a_o bishop_n or_o any_o one_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v by_o many_o occasion_n stand_v under_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n church_n in_o what_o case_n bishop_n be_v liable_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n as_o if_o he_o have_v two_o wife_n cause_n 24._o q._n 3._o c._n 19_o or_o if_o he_o be_v a_o teacher_n of_o error_n he_o must_v be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n cause_n 24._o q._n 3._o c_o 13._o pelagius_n or_o if_o he_o be_v a_o usurer_n cause_n 14._o q._n 4._o c._n 4._o or_o a_o blasphemer_n or_o swearer_n carth._n 4._o cap._n 61._o or_o a_o player_n at_o dice._n trullan_n c._n 50._o or_o be_v negligent_a in_o preach_v and_o so_o continue_v can_v apost_n 57_o or_o give_v order_n for_o money_n chalced._n c._n 2_o or_o be_v promote_v for_o money_n constant_n conc._n 6._o gener_fw-la c._n 22._o or_o make_v a_o lie_v man_n his_o vicar_n general_a hispatiens_n 2._o c._n 9_o or_o take_v upon_o he_o any_o civil_a office_n as_o vice-presidentship_a justiciariship_n decr._n greg._n 3._o 58._o 4._o or_o sit_v in_o cause_n of_o blood_n or_o give_v sentence_n for_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o any_o meber_v as_o of_o ear_n hand_n etc._n etc._n ibid._n c_o 5._o so_o write_v alexander_n 3_o in_o his_o rescript_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o canterbury_n but_o a_o bishop_n or_o any_o one_o man_n may_v stand_v excommunicate_a where_o a_o assembly_n or_o company_n can_v in_o this_o case_n by_o who_o shall_v the_o discipline_n be_v administer_v ergo_fw-la it_o be_v safe_a that_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v dispose_v by_o many_o then_o by_o one_o arg._n 10._o presbyter_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o church_n be_v interest_v in_o the_o spiritual_a rule_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o excommunication_n belong_v to_o the_o spiritual_a regiment_n ergo_fw-la for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o proposition_n first_o in_o the_o scripture_n we_o find_v that_o the_o apostle_n call_v together_o the_o presbyter_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o doubtful_a question_n and_o by_o the_o apostle_n the_o elder_n that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n be_v make_v ruler_n the_o elder_n that_o rule_v well_o especial_o they_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n 1._o tim._n 5._o 17._o they_o then_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n be_v also_o roll_a elder_n for_o how_o else_o shall_v they_o have_v a_o double_a honour_n be_v exclude_v from_o government_n which_o be_v count_v one_o of_o the_o great_a honour_n of_o the_o church_n now_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v most_o evident_a hier._n say_v communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la concilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la regebantur_fw-la 1._o ●●●rom_fw-la in●_n ●_z 1._o in_o the_o begin_n church_n be_v govern_v by_o the_o common_a advice_n of_o presbyter_n cause_n 11._o q._n 3_o c._n 106._o debent_fw-la 12._o sacerdotes_fw-la episcopum_fw-la circumstare_fw-la etc._n etc._n twelve_o priest_n must_v stand_v by_o the_o bisbop_n when_o he_o denounce_v excommunication_n can_n 108._o when_o the_o penitent_a party_n be_v to_o be_v reconcile_v the_o bishop_n must_v be_v assist_v with_o as_o many_o cause_n 12._o q._n 2._o c._n 5._o the_o bishop_n can_v not_o dispose_v of_o the_o temporal_a thing_n of_o the_o church_n much_o less_o of_o spiritual_a inconsulto_fw-la presbyterio_fw-la not_o have_v before_o consult_v with_o his_o presbytery_n neither_o be_v the_o assistance_n of_o the_o presbytery_n for_o decency_n and_o order_n only_o but_o of_o necessity_n episcopus_fw-la nullius_fw-la causam_fw-la audiat_fw-la absque_fw-la praesentia_fw-la clericorum_fw-la aliter_fw-la erit_fw-la sententia_fw-la irrita_fw-la the_o bishop_n shall_v hear_v no_o man_n cause_n without_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clark_n otherwise_o let_v the_o sentence_n be_v void_a carth._n 4._o c._n 23._o thus_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o at_o the_o beginning_n the_o presbyter_n do_v assist_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o regiment_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v confess_v also_o by_o our_o learned_a writer_n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o first_o be_v so_o apportion_v that_o neither_o the_o presbyter_n shall_v do_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o bishop_n 307._o perpetual_a gover_n p._n 307._o nor_o the_o bishop_n dispose_v matter_n of_o importance_n without_o his_o presbytery_n d._n fulke_o thus_o testify_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o authority_n of_o bind_v 4._o ans_fw-fr to_o rhem_n in_o 2_o cor._n 2._o sect_n 4._o and_o lose_v commit_v and_o retain_v pertain_v general_o to_o all_o the_o apostle_n alike_o and_o to_o every_o pastor_n in_o his_o cure_n thus_o be_v it_o in_o the_o beginning_n but_o by_o little_a and_o little_a in_o process_n of_o time_n bishop_n begin_v to_o encroach_v upon_o presbyter_n and_o their_o office_n 1._o bishop_n have_v at_o the_o first_o but_o a_o priority_n before_o their_o presbyter_n they_o be_v not_o presbyter_n how_o bishop_n by_o little_a and_o little_o encroach_v upon_o presbyter_n to_o suffer_v a_o presbyter_n to_o stand_v before_o they_o carth._n 4._o 34._o and_o within_o door_n collegam_fw-la se_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la esse_fw-la cognoscat_fw-la let_v the_o bishop_n take_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o presbyter_n colleague_n 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except_v 4._o but_o not_o content_v to_o stay_v here_o
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quae_fw-la non_fw-la defenditur_fw-la &_o probatur_fw-la taceat_fw-la 49._o serm._n 49._o lingua_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la ubi_fw-la ipsa_fw-la equitas_fw-la sibi_fw-la adest_fw-la as_o ambrose_n say_v the_o goodness_n of_o the_o cause_n do_v the_o better_a appear_v when_o it_o be_v approve_v without_o defence_n the_o gracious_a effect_n under_o her_o majesty_n late_a happy_a reign_n proceed_v not_o from_o the_o discipline_n but_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n which_o if_o it_o have_v be_v cherish_v by_o a_o good_a foster_n sister_n will_v have_v bring_v forth_o more_o glorious_a fruit_n his_o majesty_n what_o defect_n soever_o he_o find_v in_o the_o reformation_n of_o his_o former_a kingdom_n which_o be_v not_o such_o as_o you_o insinuate_v he_o know_v wise_o to_o distinguish_v between_o the_o fault_n of_o man_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n as_o the_o law_n say_v delictum_fw-la 76_o reg._n iuris_fw-la 76_o personae_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la in_o 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fungitur_fw-la melius_fw-la intelligit_fw-la qui_fw-la sani_fw-la sunt_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sanantur_fw-la the_o physician_n better_o know_v who_o be_v sick_a or_o sound_n than_o they_o which_o be_v heal_v neither_o do_v we_o wish_v the_o state_n to_o be_v dissolve_v but_o the_o corruption_n to_o be_v reform_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n as_o we_o deny_v it_o not_o to_o be_v in_o part_n as_o they_o say_v acceptable_a to_o god_n honourable_a to_o his_o highness_n comfortable_a to_o many_o thousand_o minister_n so_o we_o desire_v that_o in_o each_o sort_n it_o may_v be_v more_o and_o say_v with_o augustine_n in_o a_o other_o case_n optandum_fw-la 16._o epist_n 16._o est_fw-la ut_fw-la fiat_fw-la supplicandum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la fiat_fw-la non_fw-la quasi_fw-la factum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la consulendum_fw-la it_o be_v to_o be_v wish_v that_o so_o it_o be_v but_o can_v be_v say_v that_o so_o it_o be_v 3._o censure_n he_o that_o will_v indifferent_o consider_v etc._n 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