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A42758 An assertion of the government of the Church of Scotland in the points of ruling-elders and of the authority of presbyteries and synods with a postscript in answer to a treatise lately published against presbyteriall government. Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1641 (1641) Wing G745; ESTC R16325 120,649 275

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second_o zaken_v do_v not_o ever_o signify_v a_o ruler_n or_o a_o man_n in_o authority_n as_o we_o have_v show_v before_o three_o let_v we_o grant_v zaken_v to_o be_v a_o name_n of_o dignity_n and_o to_o import_v a_o chief_a man_n yet_o a_o chief_a man_n be_v not_o ever_o a_o magistrate_n nor_o a_o ruler_n it_o will_v only_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o chief_a of_o the_o father_n of_o israel_n that_o be_v join_v with_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o sanedrim_n and_o so_o it_o be_v 2_o chron._n 19.8_o non_fw-la hercle_fw-la de_fw-fr plebe_fw-la hominum_fw-la lecti_fw-la sed_fw-la nobilissimi_fw-la omnes_fw-la 12._o say_v p._n cunaeus_n they_o be_v say_v loc._n theol._n to_o 6._o §_o 28._o proceres_fw-la tribuum_fw-la qui_fw-la allegabantur_fw-la una_fw-la cum_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la &_o scribis_fw-la in_o sacrum_fw-la synedrium_fw-la four_o they_o who_o be_v so_o join_v in_o council_n with_o the_o priest_n 2_o chron._n 19.8_o be_v plain_o distinguish_v from_o the_o judge_n and_o magistrate_n vers_fw-la 11._o and_o so_o be_v the_o prince_n &_o ruler_n distinguish_v from_o the_o elder_n act._n 4.5_o judg._n 8.14_o deut._n 5.23_o jos._n 8.33_o five_o we_o will_v know_v whether_o he_o think_v that_o all_o the_o magistrate_n of_o the_o jew_n sit_v in_o council_n with_o the_o priest_n or_o some_o of_o they_o only_o if_o some_o only_a we_o desire_v either_o proof_n or_o probability_n who_o they_o be_v and_o how_o many_o if_o all_o then_o shall_v we_o by_o the_o like_a reason_n admit_v not_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n alone_o which_o he_o seem_v to_o say_v into_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o church_n but_o all_o magistrate_n whatsoever_o and_o what_o a_o confusion_n shall_v that_o be_v six_o those_o elder_n that_o sit_v in_o the_o civil_a sanedrim_n be_v ruler_n by_o their_o sit_v there_o but_o the_o elder_n which_o sit_v in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a sanedrim_n either_o be_v not_o civil_a magistrate_n or_o at_o least_o sit_v not_o there_o as_o magistrate_n so_o do_v our_o magistrate_n sometime_o sit_v with_o we_o as_o member_n of_o our_o assembly_n not_o as_o magistrate_n but_o as_o elder_n of_o the_o distinction_n of_o those_o two_o court_n which_o every_o one_o observe_v not_o we_o shall_v speak_v more_o afterward_o we_o have_v say_v enough_o against_o saravia_n but_o bilson_n do_v better_a deserve_v a_o answer_n who_o allege_v more_o specious_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v their_o civil_a magistrate_n he_o say_v there_o be_v no_o senate_n nor_o senior_n among_o the_o jew_n but_o such_o as_o have_v power_n of_o life_n and_o death_n of_o imprisonment_n confiscation_n banishment_n etc._n etc._n which_o he_o make_v to_o appear_v thus_o in_o the_o day_n of_o ezra_n the_o punishment_n of_o contemner_n be_v forfeiture_n of_o their_o substance_n and_o separation_n from_o the_o congregation_n ezra_n 10.8_o the_o trial_n of_o secret_a murder_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o elder_n of_o every_o city_n deut._n 21.3.4_o they_o deliver_v the_o wilful_a murderer_n unto_o the_o avenger_n of_o blood_n to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n deut._n 19.12_o they_o condemn_v a_o stubborn_a son_n to_o death_n deut._n 21.19_o they_o chastened_a a_o man_n who_o have_v speak_v false_o of_o his_o wife_n that_o he_o find_v she_o not_o a_o virgin_n deut._n 22.15.16.18_o ans._n first_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o elder_n speak_v of_o in_o these_o place_n be_v civil_a magistrate_n this_o prove_v not_o that_o there_o be_v no_o ecclesiastical_a elder_n among_o the_o jew_n 6.32_o justellus_n in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o the_o book_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o african_a church_n distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o civil_a elder_n mention_v can._n 91._o who_o be_v call_v seniores_fw-la locorum_fw-la or_o vrbium_fw-la and_o the_o ecclesiastical_a elder_n mention_v can._n 100_o who_o be_v call_v seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la and_o seniores_fw-la plebis_fw-la the_o former_a name_n distinguish_v they_o from_o the_o civil_a elder_n the_o latter_a distinguish_v they_o from_o preach_a elder_n so_o there_o may_v be_v the_o same_o two_o sort_n of_o elder_n among_o the_o jew_n and_o what_o then_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o that_o we_o find_v in_o the_o jewish_a church_n some_o elder_n join_v with_o the_o priest_n &_o employ_v in_o thing_n ecclesiastical_a the_o elder_n and_o priest_n be_v join_v together_o both_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o matth._n 26.59_o the_o chief_a priest_n and_o elder_n so_o in_o other_o place_n before_o cite_v and_o likewise_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n exod._n 24.1_o come_v up_o unto_o the_o lord_n thou_o and_o aaron_n nadab_n and_o ●bihu_o and_o seventy_o of_o the_o elder_n of_o israel_n deut._n 27.1_o moses_n with_o the_o elder_n compare_v with_o vers_n 9_o moses_n and_o the_o priest_n ezech._n 7.26_o the_o law_n shall_v perish_v from_o the_o priest_n and_o counsel_n from_o the_o ancient_n jer._n 19_o 1._o take_v of_o the_o ancient_n of_o the_o people_n and_o of_o the_o 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the_o people_n and_o the_o judge_n be_v both_o together_o call_v out_o i_o answer_v because_o god_n will_v have_v both_o the_o magistrate_n and_o the_o subject_n to_o be_v innocent_a etc._n etc._n as_o for_o the_o other_o place_n that_o which_o seem_v to_o prove_v most_o for_o the_o civil_a power_n of_o the_o jewish_a elder_n be_v deuter._n 22._o yet_o hear_v what_o that_o famous_a commentator_n tostatus_n abulensis_n say_v on_o that_o place_n quando_fw-la talis_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o such_o a_o cause_n be_v to_o be_v judge_v because_o it_o be_v very_o weighty_a the_o elder_n of_o the_o city_n do_v meet_v together_o with_o the_o judge_n thereof_o for_o in_o such_o fact_n there_o be_v some_o place_n for_o conjecture_n and_o the_o elder_n who_o be_v the_o wise_a sort_n can_v herein_o be_v more_o attentive_a than_o other_o so_o he_o note_v upon_o ruth_n 4.2_o that_o the_o elder_n sit_v in_o the_o gate_n
the_o faithful_a from_o their_o sin_n see_v conci_fw-la triden_n de_fw-fr sacr_n ordin_n cap._n 1._o hier._n savanarola_n triumph_n cruc_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 16._o and_o the_o same_o two_o make_v up_o the_o proper_a office_n of_o the_o priest_n by_o the_o order_n of_o the_o english_a service_n book_n as_o touch_v deacon_n they_o be_v ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n for_o collect_v receive_v keep_v and_o distribute_v of_o ecclesiastical_a good_n for_o maintain_v of_o minister_n school_n church_n the_o sick_a stranger_n and_o poor_a the_o popish_a and_o prelatical_a deacon_n have_v no_o such_o office_n but_o a_o office_n which_o the_o apostle_n never_o appoint_v to_o they_o for_o they_o have_v no_o preach_v nor_o baptise_v deacon_n philip_n preach_v and_o baptize_v not_o as_o a_o deacon_n but_o as_o a_o evangelist_n act_v 21.8_o beside_o at_o the_o time_n of_o his_o preach_n and_o baptise_v he_o can_v not_o have_v exercise_v the_o office_n of_o his_o deaconship_n by_o reason_n of_o 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