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A41287 A speech of the Honourable Nathanael Fiennes, second son to the right honourable the Lord Say, in answere to the third speech of the Lord George Digby concerning bishops and the city of Londons petition : both which were made the 9th of Feb. 1640 in the honourable House of Commons : in which is plainely cleared the severall objections that are made against the Londoners petition and also the great and transcendent evills of episcopal government, are demonstrated and plainly laid open. Fiennes, Nathaniel, 1607 or 8-1669. 1641 (1641) Wing F880; ESTC R226088 15,328 32

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