the reuniting forsooth of Christendome All the satisfaction I should enjoyn you is to perswade the Bishop of Rome if Gregory the Great were living The Authors satisfaction to perswade the Pope to leave that vain Title you could not fail of speeding to imitate the piety and humility of our Princes that is to content himself with his Patriarchicall dignity and primacy of Order Principium unitatis and to quit that much more presumptuous and if a Popes word may pass for current Antichristian terme of the Head of the Catholick Church If the Pope be the Head of the Catholique Church then the Catholique Church is the Popes body which would be but an harsh expression to Christian ears then the Catholick Church should have no Head when there is no Pope two or three Heads when there are two or three Popes an unsound Head when there is an hereticall Pope a broken Head when the Pope is censured or deposed and no Head when the See is vacant If the Church must have one Universall visible Ecclesiasticall Head a generall Councill may best pretend to that Title Neither are you more successfull in your other Reason Hatred of Episcopacy or the true cause why the Parliament persecuted the King why the Parliament persecuted the King Because he mainteined Episcopacy both out of Conscience and Interest which they sought to abolish For though it be easily admitted that some seditious and heterodox persons had an evill eye both against Monarchy and Episcopacy from the very beginning of these troubles either out of fiery zeal or vain affectation of Novelty like those who having the green-sickness prefer chalk and meal in a corner before wholsome meat at their Fathers table or out of a greedy and covetous desire of gathering some sticks for themselves upon the fall of those great Okes yet certainly they who were the contrivers and principall actors in this business did more malign Episcopacy for Monarchy's sake then Monarchie for Episcopacies What end had the Nuncio's faction in Ireland against Episcopacy whose mutinous courses apparantly lost that Kingdom When the Kings consent to the Abolition of Episcopacy in Scotland was extorted from him by the Presbyterian faction which probably the prime authors do rue sufficiently by this time were those Presbyterian Scots any thing more favourable to Monarchy To come to England the chief Scene of this bloody Tragedy If that party in Parliament had at first proposed any such thing as the Abolition either of Monarchy or Episcopacy undoubtedly they had ruined their whole design untill daily tumults and uncontrollable uprores had chased away the greater and sounder part of both Houses Their first Protestation was solemnly made to God both for King and Church as they were by Law established The true causes of the troubles in Englâ—â—d Would you know then what it was that Conjur'd up the storm among us It was some feigned jealousies and fears which the first broachers themselves knew well enough to be fables dispersed cunningly among the people That the King purposed to subvert the fundamentall Lawes of the Kingdome and to reduce the free English Subject to a condition of absolute slavery under an Arbitrary Government For which massy weight of malitious untruth they had no supporters but a few Bull-rushes Secondly that he meant to apostate from the Protestant Religion to Popery and to that end had raised the Irish Rebellion by secret encouragements and Commissions For which monstrous calumny they had no other foundation except the solemn religious Order of divine Service in his own Chappell and Cathedral Churches then some unseasonable disputes about an Altar or a Table and the permission of the Popes Agent to make a short stay in England more for reasons of State than of Religion And some sensless fictions of some Irish Rebels who having a Patent under the great Seal of Ireland for their Lands to colour their barbarous murthers shewed it to the poor simple people as a Commission from the King to levy forces And lastly some impious pious frauds of some of your own partie whose private whispers and printed insinuations did give hopes that the Church of England was comming about to shake hands with the Roman in the points controverted Which was meerly devised to gull some silly creatures whom they found apt to be catched with chaff for which they had no more pretext of truth than you have for your groundless intimations in this unwelcome dedication These suspitions being compounded with Covetousness Ambition Envy Emulation desire of Revenge and discontent were the sourse of all our Calamities Thus much you your self confess in effect that this supposition that the King and Bishops had an intention to re-establish the Roman Catholique Religion was the venom which the Puritan faction infused into the hearts of the people P. 11. to fill them with hatred against a King worthy of love And the Parliament judged it a favourable occasion for their design to advance themselves to Soveraign Authority Be Judge your self how much they are accessary to our sufferings who either were or are the Authors or fomenters of these damnable slanders There was yet one cause more of this cruell persecution which I cannot conceal from you because it concerns some of your old acquaintance There was a Bishop in the world losers must have leave to talk whose privie Purse and subtill Counsells did help to kindle that unnaturall war in his Majesties three Kingdomes Our Cardinall Wolsey complained before his death That he had served his King better than his God But certainly this practise in your friend was neither Good service to his God to be the author of the effusion of so much innocent blood nor yet to his King to let the world see such a dangerous president It is high time for a man to look to himself when his next neighbours house is all on a flame As hitherto I have followed your steps though not altogether in your own Method or rather your own confusion So I shall observe the same course for the future Your discourse is so full of Meanders and windings turnings and returnings you congregate Heterogenious matter and segregate that which is homogeneous as if you had made your Dedication by starts and snatches and never digested your whole discourse On the contrary where I meet with any thing it shall be my desire to dispatch it out of my hands with whatsoever perteins unto it once for all I hope you expect not that I should amuse my self at your Rhetoricall flowers and elegant expressions they agree well enough with the work you were about The Pipe playes sweetly whilst the Fowler is catching his prey Trappings are not to be condemned if the things themselves are good and usefull but I prefer one Pomegranate Tree loaden with good fruit before a whole row of Cypresses that serve onely for shew Be sure of this that where any thing in your Epistle reflects upon the Church
new Creed upon Christendom New I say not in words only but in sense also Something 's are de Symbolo What are additions to the Creed and what are only explications somethings are contra symbolum and somethings are only praeter symbolum Something 's are conteined in the Creed either expresly or virtually either in the Letter or in the sense and may be deduced by evident consequence from the Creed as the Deity of Christ his two natures the procession of the Holy Ghost The addition of these was properly no addition but an explication Yet such an explication no person no Assembly under an Oecumenicall Councill Aq. 2. 2. q. 1. Art 10. can impose upon the Catholick Church And such an one your Tridentine Synod was not Secondly somethings are contra symbolum contrary to the symbolicall Faith and either expresly or virtually overthrow some Article of it These additions are not only unlawfull but hereticall also in themselves and after conviction render a man a formal Heretick whether some of your additions be not of this nature I will not now dispute Thirdly somethings are neither of the Faith nor against the Faith but only besides the Faith That is opinions or truths of an inferior nature which are not so necessary to be actually known for though all revealed truths be a like necessary to be believed when they are known yet all revealed truths are not a like necessary to be known It is not denyed but that Generall or Provinciall Councils may make constitutions concerning these for unity and uniformity and oblige all such as are subject to their jurisdiction to receive them either actively or passively without contumacy or opposition But to make these or any of these a part of the Creed and to oblige all Christians under pain of damnation to know and believe them is really to adde to the Creed and to change the Symbolicall Apostolicall Faith to which none can adde from which none can take away and comes within the compass of St. Pauls curse Gal. 1.8 If we or an Angell from Heaven shall Preach unto you any other Gospell or Faith than that which we have Preached let him be accursed Such are your Universality of the Roman Church by the Institution of Christ to make her the Mother of her Grand-Mother the Church of Jerusalem and the mistress of her many elder Sisters Your Doctrine of Purgatory and Indulgences and the Worship of Images and all other novelties defined in the Councill of Trent all which are comprehended in your New Roman Creed and obtruded by you upon all the world to be believed under pain of damnation He that can extract all these out of the old Apostolick Creed must needs be an excellent Chymist and may safely undercake to draw water out of a Pumice That afflictions come not by chance P. 4. Crosses are not alwaies punishments but sometimes corrections or tryals that prosperity is no evidence of Gods favour or adversity of his hatred that crosses imposed by God upon his servants look more forwards towards their amendment than backwards to their demerits and proceed not from a Judge revenging but from a Father correcting or which you have omitted from a Lord Paramount proving and magnifying before the world his own graces in his Servants for his glory and their Advantage are undeniable Truths which we readily admit As likewise that the dim eye of man cannot penetrate into the secret dispensations of Gods temporall judgements and mercies in this life so as to say this man is punished that other chastised this third is only proved But you forget all this soon after Which the Author presently forgets when you take upon you to search into yea more to determine the grounds and reasons why the hand of God P. 8. aswell as the Parliament hath been so heavy upon the Head of his late Majesty and his royall Son P. 14. Namely on Gods part because he called himself the head of the Church God purposing by his punishment to teach all other Princes that are in the Schism with what severity he can vindicate his glory in the injury done unto the Unity and Authority of his Church P. 9. And on the Parliaments part because he would not consent to the Abolition of Episcopacy and suppression of the Liturgy and Ceremonies established in the Church of England First what warrant have you to enquire into the Actions of that blessed Saint and Martyr which of them should be the causes of his sufferings Not remembring that the Disciples received a check from their Master upon the like presumption Joh. 9.2 Who sinned this man or his parents that he was born blind Jesus answered neither hath this man sinned nor his parents but that the works of God should be made manifest in him Better grounds of his Majesties sufferings than those of the Author The Heroicall Virtues the flaming Charity the admirable Patience the rare Humility the exemplary Chastity the constant and frequent Devotions and the invincible Courage of that happy Prince not daunted with the ugly face of a most horrid death have rendred him the glory of his Country the Honour of that Church whereof he was the chiefest member the admiration of Christendome and a pattern for all Princes of what Communion soever to imitate untill the end of the world His Suffrings were Palms his Prison a Paradise and his death-day the birth-day of his happiness whom his Enemies advantaged more by their cruelty than they could have done by their courtesie They deprived him of a corruptible Crown and invested him with a Crown of glory They snatched him from the sweet society of his dearest Spouse and from most hopefull Olive branches Psa 128.3 to place him in the bosoms of the holy Angels This alone is ground enough for his suffrings to manifest unto the world those transcendent and unparallel'd graces wherewith God had enriched him to which his suffrings gave the greatest lustre as the stars shine brightest in a dark night The Authors rash censure upon the Archbishop of Cant. The like liberty you assume towards the other most glorious Martyr the late Arch-Bishop of Canterbury a man of profound learning and exemplary life of clean hands of a most sincere heart a patron of all good learning a Professor of antient truth a great friend indeed and earnest pursuer of Order Unity and uniformity in Religion but most free from all sinister ends either a varitious or ambitious wherewith you do uncharitably charge him as if he sought onely his own Grandeur to make himself the head of a Schismaticall body In brief you therefore censure him because you did not know him I wish all your great Ecclesiastiques had his Innocency and fervent zeal for Gods Church and the peace thereof to plead for them at the day of Judgement By applying these particular Afflictions according to your own ungrounded Fancy what a wide gap have
of England I shall not miss it first or last though it be but a loose unjoynted peece and so perhaps hitherto untouched We are onely accused of Schism Amongst other things which you lay to our charge you glance at the least twelve times at our supposed Schism But from first to last never attempt to prove it as if you took it for granted I have shaped a Coat for a Schismatick and had presented it to you in this answer but considering that the matter is of moment and merits as much to be seriously and solidly weighed as your naked Crimination without all pretext of proof deserves to be sleighted lest it might seem here as an impertinent digression to take up too much place in this short discourse I have added it at the Conclusion of this Answer in a short Tract by it self that you may peruse it if you please Presbyterians and Brownists have been Romes best friends You fall heavily in this Discourse upon the Presbyterians Brownists and Independents if they intend to return you any answer they may send it by a messenger of their own As for my part I am not their Proctor I have received no Fee from them And if I should undertake to plead their Cause upon my own head by our old English Law you might call me to accompt for unlawfull maintenance Onely give me leave as a by-stander to wonder why you are so cholerique against them for certainly they have done you more service in England then ever you could have done for your selves And I wonder no less why you call our Reformation a Calvinisticall Reformation brought into England by Bucer and Peter Martyr a blind Reformation yea the intire ruine of the Faith of the very form of the Church and of the civill Government of the Common-wealth instituted by God P. 16. Though you confess again in our favour that if our first Reformers had been interrogated whether they meant P. 19. P. 14. any such thing they would have purged themselves P. 17. and avouched their Innocence with their hands upon the new Gospell The gifts of Enemies are no gifts If such as these are all your courtesies you may be pleased to take them again Our first Reformers might safely swear upon any Gospell old or new that they meant no such thing And we may as securely swear upon all the books of God old or new that there is no such thing But why our Gospell should be younger or newer than Sixtus Quintus his Gospell or Clemens Octavus his Gospell passeth my understanding and yours also Comparisons are odious therefore I will not say that the true English Protestant standing to his own grounds is the best subject in the world But I do say that he is as good a subject as any in the world and our principles as Innocent and as auxiliary to civill Government as the Maximes of any Church under Heaven And more than yours where the clashing of two Supreme Authorities and the exemption of your numerous Clergy from the Coercive power of the Prince and some other novelties which I forbear to mention do alwayes threaten a storm Tell me Sir if you can what Church in Europe hath declared more fully or more favourably for Monarchy than the poor Church of England L. Cant. 1643. C. 1. That the most high and Sacred Order of Kings is of Divine Right being the Ordinance of God himself founded in the prime Lawes of Nature and clearly established by express Texts both of the old and new Testament Moreover that this power is extended over all their Subjects Ecclesiasticall and Civill That to set up any Independent coactive power above them either Papall or popular either directly or indirectly is to undermine their great royall Office and cunningly to overthrow that most Sacred Ordinance which God himself hath established That for their subjects to bear Arms against them Offensive or defensive upon any pretence whatsoever is to resist the powers which are ordeined of God The English Reformation not Calvinist cal And why do you call our Reformation Calvinisticall contrary to your own Conscience contrary to your own confession That in our Reformation we reteined the antient Order of Episcopacy P. 9. as Instituted by divine authority and a Liturgy and Ceremonies whereby we preserved the face or Image of the Catholick Church P. 10. And that for this very cause the disciplinarians of Geneva and the Presbyterians did conceive an implacable hatred against the King for the Churches sake and out of their aversion to it Did they hate their own Reformation so implacably If these things be to be reconciled reddat mihi minam Diogenes He that looks more in disputation to the Advantage of his partie than to the truth of his grounds had need of a strong memory We reteined not onely Episcopacy Liturgy and Ceremonies but all things else that were conformable to the discipline and publick service of the primitive Church rightly understood No Sir we cannot pin our faith upon the sleeve of any particular man as one used to say We love no nismes M. Tho. Sq. neither Calvinism nor Lutheranisme nor Jonsenianism but onely one that we derive from Antioch that is Christianism We honour Learning and Piety in our fellow servants but we desire to wear no other badge or Cognizance than that we received from our own Master at our Baptism Bucer was as fit to be Calvins Master as his Scholar So long as Calvin continued with him in Germany he was for Episcopacy Liturgy and Ceremonies and for assurance thereof subscribed the Augustane Confession and his late learned Successor and assertor in Geneva Monsieur Deodate with sundry others of that Communion were not averse from them Or why do you call our Reformation blind It was not blindness but too much affectation of knowledge and too much peeping into controverted and new fangled Questions that hath endamaged our Religion It is you that teach the Colliers Creed not we Howsoever you pretend to prove that our Reformation was the ruine of the Church and Common-wealth wee expect you should endeavour to prove it You cannot so far mistake your self as to conceive your authority to be the same with us that Pythagoras had among his Scholars to have his Dictates received for Oracles without proof what did I say that you pretend to prove it That 's too low an expression you promise us a demonstration of it P. 19. so lively and evident that no reason shall be able to contradict it Are you not afraid that too much expectation should prejudice your discourse by diminishing our applause Quid tanto dignum feret hic promissor hiatu Do you think of nothing now but Triumphs Lively and evident demonstration not to be contradicted by reason is like the Phenix much talked of but seldom seen Most men when they see a man strip up his sleeves and make too large promises of fair dealing
do suspect jugling No man proclameth in the Market that he hath rotten wares to sell And therefore we must be carefull notwithstanding your great promises to keep well Epicharmus his Jewell Remember to distrust By your permission your glistering demonstration is a very counterfeit not so valuable as a Bristol Diamant when it comes to be examined by the wheel Sometimes nothing is more necessary than Reformation Reformation is sometimes necessary Never was house so wel builded that now and then needed not reparation Never Garden so well planted but must sometimes be weeded Never any order so well instituted but in long tract of time there will be a bending and declining from its Primitive perfection and a necessity of reducing it to its first principles Are your Houses of Religion which are Reformed therefore the less Religious Why then did all the Princes and Commonwealths in Europe Yea the Fathers themselves in the Councill of Trent cry out so often so earnestly for a Reformation yet were forced to content themselves with a vain shadow for the substance as Ixion embraced a Cloud for Juno or Children are often stilled with an empty bottle Reformation not agreeable to all person especially the Court of Rome But Reformation is not agreeable to all persons Judas loved not an Audit because he kept the Bag. Dull Lethargick people had rather sleep to death than be awaked to and mad phrenetick Bigots are apt to beat the Chirurgion that would bind up their wounds but none are so averse from Reformation as the Court of Rome where the very name is more formidable than Hannibal at the Gates yea than all the five terrible things No mervail they are afraid to have their Oranges squeesed to their hands if they were infallible as they pretend there was no need of a Reformation we wish they were but we see they are not On the other side There is danger in Reformation it cannot be denyed that Reformation when it is unseasonable or inordinate or excessive may do more hurt than good when Reformers want just Authority or due information or have sinister ends or where the remedy may be of worse consequence than the abuse or where men run out of one extreme into another therefore it is a rule in prudence Not to remove an ill custom when it is well setled Unless it bring great prejudices and then it is better to give one account why we have taken it away than to be alwaies making excuses why we do it not Needless alteration doth diminish the venerable esteem of Religion and lessen the credit of antient truths Break Ice in one place and it will crack in more Crooked sticks by bending streight are sometimes broken into two There is a right mean between these extremes The right rule of Reformation if men could light on it that is neither to destroy the body out of hatred to the sores and Ulcers nor yet to cherish the sores and Ulcers out of a doating affection to the body that is neither to destroy antient Institutions out of a zealous hatred to some new abusers nor yet to do at so upon antient Institutions as for their sakes to cherish new abuses Our Reformation is just Our Reformation not the ruin of Faith Church or Common-wealth as much the cause of the ruin of our Church and Common-wealth as the building of Tenderden Steeple was the cause of Goodwins Sands or the ruin of the Country thereabouts because they happened both much about the same time Careat successibus opto May he ever want success who judgeth of Actions by the Event Our Reformation hath ruined the Faith just as the plucking up of weeds in a Garden ruins the good Herbs It hath ruined the Church just as a body full of superfluous and vicious humours is ruined by an healthfull purgation It hath ruined the Common-wealth just as the pruning of the Vine ruins the Elm. No no Sir Our sufferings for the Faith for the Church for the Monarchy do proclame us Innocent to all the world of the ruin either of Faith or Church or Monarchy And in this capacity we choose rather to sterve Innocents than to swim in plenty as Nocents But this is but one of your doubles to keep us from the right forme It is your new Roman Creed that hath ruined the Faith It is your Papall Court that hath ruined the Church It is your new Doctrines of the Popes Omnipotence over temporall persons in order unto spirituall ends of absolving subjects from their Oaths of Alleageance of exempting the Clergy from secular jurisdiction of the lawfulness of murthering Tyrants and excommunicated Princes of aequivocation and the like that first infected the world to the danger of Civill Government Yet far be it from me to make these the Universal Tenets of your Church at any time much less at this time when they are much faln from their former credit neither can I deny that sundry dangerous positions destructive to all civill societies have been transplanted by our Sectaries and taken too deep root in our quarters but never by our fault If God should grant us the benefit of an Oecumenicall or Occidentall Councill it would become both you and us in the first place to pluck up such seditious opinions root and branch You say our Calvinistical Reformation so you are pleased to call it as you would have it for the moderate and orderly Reformation of England was the terror and eye-sore of Rome is founded upon two maxims Our first supposed Maxim The onâ—â—hat the Church was faln to ruin and desolation and become guilty of Idolatry and Tyranny The Catholick Church cannot come to ruin or be be guilty of Idolatry or Tyranny This is neither our foundation nor our superstruction neither our maxim nor our Opinion It is so far from it that we hold and teach the direct contrary First that the Gates of Hell shall never prevail against the Universall Church that though the rain descend and the floods come and the winds blow and beat upon it yet it shall never fall to ruin or desolation because it is builded upon a Rock Secondly we beleeve that the Catholick Church is the faithfull Spouse of Christ and cannot be guilty of Idolatry which is spirituall Adultery Thirdly we never said we never thought that the Oecumenical Church of Christ was guilty of Tyranny It is principled to suffer wrong to do none and by suffering to Conquer Chrysost as a flock of unarmed Sheep in the midst of a company of ravenous Wolves A new and unheard of kind of warfare as if one should throw an handfull of dry flax into the midst of a flaming fire to extinguish it But I presume this is one of the Idiotisms of your language Catholick and Roman not Convertibles in which by the Church you alwaies understand the Roman Church making Roman and Catholick to be convertibles As if Christ could not have
Catholick Church than your self You tell us moreover that this Church is the Roman Church That is not true but suppose it were most true as it is most false what should a man be better or nearer to the knowledge of the truth and consequently to his salvation for his submission to the Roman Church Yet cannot agree among themselves what this Roman Church is As long as you cannot agree among your selves either what this Roman Church is or what your infallible Judge is One saith it is the Pope alone Another saith no but the Pope with his Conclave of Cardinals A third will goe no less than the Pope and a Provinciall Councill A fourth will not be contented without the Pope and a generall Councill A fifth is for a Generall Councill alone either with or without the Pope A sixth party and they are of no small esteem among you here at this present is for the essentiall Church that is the Company of all faithfull people whose reception say they makes the true ratification of the Acts of its representative body It were as good to have no infallible Judge as not to know or agree who it is Be not so centorious in condemning others for not submitting to your Roman Church or infallible Judge nor so positive to make this submission so absolutely necessary to salvation untill you agree better what this Judge or Church is It is five to one against you that you your self miss the right Judge The English Church not perished Whatsoever become of your Church you say Ours is perished by the proper Axioms of our own Reformation and hath no more any subsistence in the world nor pretence to the Privilege of a Church This is hard He perisheth twice that perisheth by his own weapons Even so Josephs Brethren told Joseph himself with Consciences guilty enough One is not Gen. 42.13 This is that which the Court of Rome would be content to purchase at any rate This hath been the end of all then secret Negotiations and Instructions by all means to support the Presbyterian faction in England against Episcopacy Not that they loved them more than us but that they feared us more than them There was an Israelitish Church when Elias did not see it but he must be as blind as Bartimaeus that cannot see the English Church Wheresoever there is a lawfull English Pastor and an English Flock and a subordination of this Flock to that Pastor there is a branch of the true English Protestant Church Do you make no difference between a Church persecuted and a Church extinguished Have patience and expect the Catastrophe It may be all this while the Carpenters Son is making a Coffin for Julian If it please God we may yet see the Church of England which is now frying in the fire come out like Gold out of the Furnace more pure and more full of lustre If not his will be done Just art thou O Lord and righteous are all thy iudgements The Primitive Church was as glorious in the sight of God when they served him in Holes and Corners in Cryptis Sacellis conventiculis ecclesiolis as when his worship was more splendidly performed in Basilicis and Cyriacis in goodly Churches and magnificent Cathedrals Your design stops not at the King of great Britain P. 42. but extends it self to all his subjects yea to all Protestants whatsoever I wonder why you stay there The Authors vain dreams and would not adde all the Eastern Churches and the great Turk himself since you might have done it with one other penfull of Ink and with as much pretence of reason to secure himself from the joynt forces of Christendom thus united by your means A strong phantasie will discover Armies and Navies in the Clouds men and horses and chariots in the fire and hear articulate dictates from the Bels. This is not to write waking but dreaming Yet you make it an easy work to effect which there needs no disputation but onely to behold the Hereticall Genius of our Reformation P. 43. 44. which is sufficiently condemned by it self if men will onely take the pains to compare the fundamentall principles thereof with the Consequences Great Houses and Forts are builded at an easy charge in Paper When you have consulted with your Architects and Engeniers you will find it to be a work of more difficulty And your adversaries resolution may teach you to your cost what it is to promise your self such an easie conquest before the fight and let you see that those golden mountains which you phantasied have no subsistance but in your own brain and send you home to seek out that self-conviction there which you sought to fasten upon others When you are able to prove your Universall Monarchy your new Canon of Faith your new Treasury of the Church your new Roman Purgatory whereof the Pope keeps the Keys your Image worship your common prayers in a tongue unknown your deteining of the Cup from the Laity in the publike administration of the Sacrament and the rest of your new Creed out of the four first Generall Councils or the Universall Tradition of the Church in those dayes either as principles or fundamentall truths which you affirm or so much as ordinary points of faith which we deny we will yield our selves to be guilty both of Contradiction and Schism Untill you are able to make these innovations good it were best for you to be silent and leave your vapouring Desperate undertakings do easily forfeit a mans reputation P. 47. c. His vainer proposition of a conference Now are we come to the most specious piece of your whole Epistle that is the motion or proposition of a Conference by Authority of the King of France at the instance of the King of great Britain before the Arch-Bishop of Paris and his Coadjutor between some of your Roman Catholick Doctors and the Ministers of the reformed Church at Paris whom you do deservedly commend for their sufficiency and zeal You further suppose that the Ministers of the reformed Church will accept of such a disputation or by their Tergiversation betray the weakness of their cause And you conclude confidently beyond supposition that they will be confuted and convicted and that their conversion or conviction will afford sufficient ground to the King of great Britain to embrace the Communion of the Roman Catholick Church And that his conversion will reduce all conscientious Protestants to unity and due obedience I will contract your larger Palm to a Fist If the King of great Britain desire a solemn conference the King of France will enjoyn it If he injoyn it the Ministers will accept if they do accept it they are sure to be convicted if they be convicted the King of great Britain will change his Religion if hee change his Religion all conscientious Protestants will be reduced And all this to be done not by the old way of disputing No take heed
of that the burn'd child dreads the fire But by a proper new way of refuting old Protestant principles by new Independent practises Why was this Remedy found out no sooner This might have eased the Cardinals in their Consultations about propagating the Faith This might have saved Cardinall Allen all his Machiavillian Instructions to his English Emissaries This may in a short time turn the Inquisitors out of their employment for want of an Object and not leave such a thing as hereticall pravity in the world How must men praise your fortune and applaud your Invention But stay the second thoughts are wiser What if this Chain supposed to be of Adamant should prove a rope of sand And so it is I have seen a Sorites disgraced and hissed out of the Schools for drawing but one lame leg after it This is foundred of all four from the beginning to the end there is nothing in it but future Contingents which are known onely to God not one grain of necessary truth The King of England desires no such Conference First Sir be not angry if a man take away the subject of your whole discourse It is but your officiousness the King desires no such Conference Let them desire Conferences who waver in their faith All these blustering storms have radicated him deeper in his Religion And chiefly that which you make the chiefest motive to his Apostating the Martyrdom of his royall Father and an hereditary love to that Church which he hath justified with his blood Secondly If he should he had neither reason nor need to desert his English Clergy if his Majesty should encline to such a Conference do you think he would desert the English Clergy who have forsaken their Country their Friends their Estates out of their Conscience out of their duty to God and their Soveraign who understand the Constitution of the English Church much better than your self or any Foreiners how sufficient soever and cast himself wholly upon strangers whose Reformation you say is different from that of England in the points of Episcopacy Liturgy and the Ceremonies of the Church Say what was the Reason of this gross Omission were you afraid of that Image of the Church as you call it in a sleighting manner which they reteined Or did you not think any of the English Nation worthy to bear your books at a Conference It hath been otherwise heretofore and you will find it otherwise now when you come to prove it I know not whether England hath been more fortunate or unfortunate since the Reformation in breeding as many able Polemique writers on both sides as any Nation in Europe Stapleton Harding Parsons Sanders Reynolds Bishop c. for the Roman Church Jewell Andrews Abbot Laewd White Field Montague Reynolds Whitaker c. for the English Church I forbear to name those that are living And many more who come not short of these if they had pleased to communicate their Talents to the world This is such a Contumely as reflects upon the Nation and you must be content to be told of it Thirdly Such a Conference not fit to be granted by the King of France how are you sure that the King of France and his Counsell would give way to such a solemn and publique Conference private Insinuations use to prevail much when a man may Laevere tack to and again to compass his ends Authority or the Sword may put an end to Controversies But publick Conferences for the most part do but start new Questions and revive old forgotten animosities What were the Donatists the better for the Collation at Carthage The mind of a man is generous and where it looks for opposition fortifies it self against it Urban the Eighth was the wisest Pope you have had of late who by his moderation and courtesie cooled much of that heat which the violence of his Predecessors had raised against the Court of Rome The mild beams of the Sun were more prevalent than the blustering blasts of the North wind Multiplying of words more commonly engenders strife than peace Fourthly Nor to be accepted by the Ministers of the reformed Church upon what grounds are you so confident that the Ministers of the Reformed Church would admit of such a publick Disputation upon those terms which you propose That is to accept of the Archbishop of Paris and his Coadjutor two persons interessed for competent Judges I am as confident of the contrary that they would rather chuse to suffer than wrong their cause so much Frustra fit per plura quod fieri potest per pauciora It were a readier way for them and but the same in effect to subscribe to a blank paper and to submit without disputation Nor could any such Success be expected from it Fifthly suppose all this notwithstanding such a Conference should hold what reason have you to promise to your self such success as to obtain so easie a Victory You have had Conferences and Conferences again at Poissye and other places and gained by them just as much as you might put in your eye and see never the worse When Conferences are onely made use of as Pageants to grace the Introduction of some new Proselyte and to preserve his Reputation from the aspersion of desultorious Levity they seem much more efficatious than they are As they know well enough who are privie to what is acted in the withdrawing room The time was when you have been as confident in a contrary Opinion that such a free Conference would have sealed the Walls of Rome and levelled the Popes Triple Crown Sixtly The Authors impertinence and sauciness with the King whether the Ministers should accept of such a partiall unequall Conference or not or whatsoever should be the success thereof you trespass too boldly upon his Majesties patience to dictate to him so pragmatically so magisterially what he should do or would do in such a case which is never like to be Doth his Fathers constancy encourage you to believe that He is a Reed shaken with the wind Qui pauca considerat facile pronunciat He that weighs no more circumstances or occurrences than serve for the Advancement of his design pronounceth sentence easily but temerariously and for the most part unsoundly When such a thing as you dream of should happen it were good manners in you to leave his Majesty to his Christian Liberty But to trouble your self and others about the Moons shining in the water so unseasonably so impertinently or with what will come to pass when the sky falls is unbeseeming the Counseller of a King His Pen over â—uns his wit Lastly consider how your pen doth over-run your reason and over-reach all grounds of probability to ascribe unto his Majesties change such an infallible Influence upon all Protestants as to reduce them to the Roman Communion not onely his own subjects but foreiners His blessed Fathers example had not so much influence upon the Scots his native