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A10173	Protestants demonstrations, for Catholiks recusance All taken from such English Protestant bishops, doctors, ministers, parlaments, lawes, decrees, and proceedings, as haue beene printed, published, or allowed among them in England; since the cominge of our king Iames into this kingdome: and for the most parte within the first six or seuen yeares thereof. And euidentlie prouinge by their owne writings, that english Catholiks may not vnder damnable syn, co[m]municate with English Protestants, in their seruice, sermons, or matters of religion: and soe conuincinge by the[m]selues, their religio[n] to be most damnable, & among other things, their ministery to bee voide, false & vsurped.	Broughton, Richard, attributed name.	1615 (1615)	STC 20450; ESTC S112509	81,861	158

corruptions of our church and practise of the prelates as appeareth by the testimonie of the deane of the Chapell And yett his cunninge hath serued him and his Conscience suffereth him to bee a greate Bishop Offer sup pag. 29. D. G. Abbot ag Hill p. 101. 102. 94. 106. 236 237. Povvell ag Apol. epi●● pa. 52 c. 48. Doue persuas pa. 32 Su●cl against kell pag 42. Middleton pap pa. 201 Will Antil pa 15. p 20 ●ovvell ●ōsider pa 17. Wott● d●f of Perk. p. 28. Feild pag. 170. Morton satisf p 18. Abridgm pag. 39. amonge them And thus it further followeth in that protestant Author Noe hon●stie was vsed in that Relation it seemes by the whole manadgenge of yt that it vvas vnder●and plotted and procured by the prelates themselues abusing therein his ma●estie and vsinge M. Galloway as an instrument in the matter to the end that they might haue the more colour for their intended proceedinge Wee haue hard before how constantly and vniformely both their Bishops parlamentarie and puritane protestants haue written that they all agree in all materiall and substantiall points and as their Archbishop of Canterbury absolutely affirmeth noe Goliath against t●em can proue the contrary And an other hath with publicke priuiledge these words none but Papists affirme t●at ●rotestants and puritan●s differ in substantiall points of f●●the● and hee lyeth which saith t●ey differ in subsiautiall ●oints And such is the common and generall assertion both of the parlamen●arie and puritane protestants as is euident before and may appeare by these their Citations and others to many to bee related w●en they write against Catholicks charging them with their diuers intollerable essentiall materiall and fundamentall differences in Religion But when they dispute or write against themselues then if to bee hereticks is to differ in a materiall fundamentall or essentiall point as they write in these words Hereticks are neither simple infidells nor idolaters but obstinately ●rring in some fundament all point Protestants and puritans doe thus differ for either hath condemned others befor for Hereticks Therfore to affirme it is not a lye B●t they which both affirme and deny it to serue their vse and delude their readers are prophane lyers and dissemblers in Religion and soe not to bee imitated but auoyded Againe the puritans condemne the protetestant Bishops for essentiall poynts and make them moste damned and hellish people together with their ministers and adherents as is manifest before And the protestant Bishops followers haue in diuers publicke canons made the state of puritans excommunication ipso Constitutiō c. can ecclesiast An. 1604. can 3. can 4. can 5. can 6. cā 7. can 8. cā 9. can 10. can 11. can 12. can 4. can 5. can 6. can 7. c●n 8. facto And to shew that they doe not thus Censure them for things not essentiall but verie essentiall materiall and fundamentall things questioned betweene them some of their opinions bee there thus expressed the worship in the church in England is corrupt superstitious vnlawfull repugnant to the scriptures and in sacraments The articles of their religion are erroneous their rites Antichristian gouernment of the church of england vnder his maiestie by Archbishops Bishops d●anes c. Antichristian and repugnant to the word of God The forme and maner of makinge and consecratinge Bishops ●reists and deacons is repugnant to the vvord of God They vvhoe are made Bishops preists or deacons in that forme are not lavvfully made nor ought to bee accompted either by themselues or others to bee truely either Bishops preists or deacons c. Therefore soe many Excommunications ipso facto in number seuen together with soe essentiall differences must needs bee materiall points putting a man as they think ordeyne out of the church and soe out of all hope of saluation as they haue taught before Further D. Couell setteth downe these protestants doctrine in this maner The Gouernment Couell ag Burg. p. 33. b● Elders and the Pressbitery is the expresse commaundement of God and as essentiall as either the worde or Sacraments And ag●●ne T●e discipline Couell exā pag. 36. is an essentiall note of the churche men are martyres in that quarrell as well as for the defence of any article of the Christian faithe M. O●merod Ormer pict purit f. 4. relateth their opinion in this maner Certaine of the things which puritane● stand vppon are such as that euery hayre of their ●eade were a life they ought to offor them for the defence of them Hee hath told vs before how they haue Ormer dial 1. reuiued allmost all old heresies and besides their opinions haue their tricks qualities and conditions Then if protestants differ not from them in any essentiall thinge they ioyne with them in those heresies They are to vse his words Apostolicks Aerians Popuzians Petrobrusians Flo●inians Cerinthians Nazarens Beguardines ●bi●nits Catababdi●es Catharists Iouinianists c. too m●ny to bee recited Therefore hee speaketh thus puritans differ from protestants in things fundamentall and substantiall puritans Ormerod dial 2. doe not agree with protestants in all matters of substance Therefore seing these men bee not papists they must needs bee notorious lyers and deceauers in spirituall things M. Parkes in his Epistle dedicatorie to their late Archbishop of Canterbury writeth thus The Creede Parkes epist dedicat it selfe which hath allwayes beene the very badge and Cognizance whereby to discerne and knowe the faithfull from vnbeleeuers Christians from heathens and Catholickes from hereticks is the mayne point in question Then they agree not in all things essentiall and fundamentall for besides this hee addeth puritanes seeke to vndermyne the foundation of faith Therefore speakinge Parkes p. 3. o● protestants and puritanes seducing t●e ignorant as though they agreed in all essentiall things hee writeth in these words To deceaue Parkes pag. 89. the worlde and make men beleeue there is agr●ement in all substantiall points they affirme that there is noe question amonge them of the Iacob reas epist. dedic truthe M. Iacob giueth this Censure T●ey are vayne wordes of men vnaduised yea of corrupt mindes and studing to flatter which cease not to inculcate that the things in question are indifferent Iacob reas pag. 75. and arbitrary The matters in question are far from matters indifferent or arbitrarie but are in deede very greately importinge the common pag. 82. sup saluation These things are far from indifferent matters or small trifl●s in the churches as some so●d men sugg●st and ●ill reiterate t●ey are directly contr●●y to Gods worde preiudiciall and dishonerable to Holy ca●linge and pernitious to the soules of all the Christian● in the land Their Supplication Supplicat An 1606. Argum 5. Offer of Cons pa. 3. sa●●h their cause is ●hole Christ The protestant Authors of the offer of Conference say the pr●positions offered to bee disputed contayne in them the nature of Christs true visible churche

preisthood which your new learninge and womanly diuinitie haue pronownced treasonable And your present protestant Archbishop and all others directors of M. Mason teaching that all Archbishops M●son epis● dedicator of Canterbury before your first pretended and protestantlie made Bishop Matthew parker were from S. Mason in c●ns●crat of Matthew parker Suecliffe pag d●●ell pag. 4. 5. Feild l of the church Mas●n supr Augustine consecrated after the Romane maner and otherwise then you practise must bee of the same opinion for our preists were made by them And as D. Sutclisfe D. Feild M. Mason and others testifie by this forme Receaue power to offer sacrifice for the quick and the deade which is now vsed in the church of Rome in which noe treason but much spirituall power and honor is conteyneth And such as it enforceth your present Ministery by all pretence Statut. An. 27 Elizab cap 1. M●sm Sutcl●●eild sup c. they can to clayme though with note of treason their callinge from that ordination And such that it maketh the lawful soe ordered to bee soe honorable that a cheife doctor in your Religion hath written of them in thes most D Couell def of hooker pag. 87 reuerend termes ●o thes parsons God imparteth power ouer his misticall bodye which is the societie of soules and ouer that naturall which is himselfe for the knittinge of bothe in one which Antiquitie doth call the making of Christs bodie By blessinge visible elements it Couell sup pag. 105. maketh them inuisible grace it giueth daily the holy ghost it hath to dispose of that flesh which was giuen for the life of the worlde and that blood which was powred out to red●eme soules Couell sup pag. 87 88. 91. it is a power which neither prince nor potentate kinge nor Caesar on earth can giue Then this state a function soe honorable with God and renowned in his holie church by the sentence of your owne doctors may not bee condemned for a state of Treason And soe manie Reuerend preists aboue one hundred and twentie besides diuers of Religious orders miserablie tortured and putt to death for that onelie cause in Englang since that Edics of Queene Elizabeth were not Traytors and malefactors but happie Saints and blessed Martyrs And your protestant persecution in puttinge soe manie the fourth third part or more of that little companie to that cruell death with other manifold Afflictions vppon your contrie Catholicks hath giuen occasion for straungers to thinke and a famous protestant amonge you to write in this maner The sufferings and S. Edwyne Sandes in his Booke Relation of the state of Religion cap. 31. Martyrdomes of English Catholicks in thes times are accōpted to the height of Neroes Dioclesians persecutions and the sufferings on their side both in meritts of cause in extremitie of Torments and in constancie and patience to the renowned martyrs of that heroicall church age Which noe man can denie if hee consider how manie hundred yeares wee enioined peace honor renowne aboue the third part of the possessions and reuenewes of this kingdome with all Bishopricks Monasteries and church liuings with their priuiledges and prerogatiues Hollnish hist. in will Conq Speed ib. Booke of Domesday c. And now are not onelie spoiled and depriued of them all but stiled branded and reproached with such Infamous titles additio●s slaunders and miseries as neuer any such example can bee produced of like and soe longe persecutions prosecuted against the auncient possessioners of Religion and religeous preeminences by soe late and new inuention by straungers or enemies much lesse by contrimen add professors of Christianitie And yett his maiesties regall sentence is my minde was K speach in parlam 19. of marrh An. 1603. euer free from persecution or thrallinge of my subiects in matters of conscience And againe Correction without instruction which as before you cannot sufficientlie giue vnto vs is but tirannie And writinge against Contadus vorstius the dutche hereticke proueth that if Catholicks should bee in error yett they are soe far from deseruing persecution and persecution of such nature that their case needeth not fraternall or frendly correption or admonition The wordes of his Censure bee thes If the subsect of vorstius his heresies Declaratiō An. D. 1612. in the cause of D. Conrud vorst pag. 46. 47. had not beene grownded vppon questions of an higher qualitie then touching the number and nature of the sacraments the point of iustification of meritts of purgatorie of the visible heade of the church or any such matters as are in controuersie at this day betwixt the papists vs wee doe freely professe wee should neuer haue troubled our selues with the busines in such fashion And yett all which was done therin was but a gentle and frendlie Admonition without any breache of peace leaque or amitie with that people Isaac Casaub resp ad epist. Cardi Per. in praefat Feild l. of the church Your Champion Casaubou that hath priuiledge soe often to call his doctrine the faith of our kinge the faith of the english church telleth you that thes controuersies cannot bee determined without a generall councell to whome D. Feild subscribeth and attributeth onely to that power to define and punish for such things And next to that yeeldeth primarie doth of Iudgment and to bee obeyed to the church of Rome his Feild supr l. 4. cap. 5. words bee thes Yt is more to bee respected and reuerenced then the authoritie of catholicke doctors and Bishops or other apostolicke churches Casaubon well knowinge the weakenes Casaubon supr of your cause addeth first because you haue noe hope of a generall cowncell that soe greate libertie of writinge one against an other might cease againe hee wisheth that seueris legibus ●trinque coerceretur that it were brideled on each side with seuere lawes Then you know by your owne doctors and Iudgments how greate and not to bee named offence it is with seuere lawes or edicts to commaunde and execute soe vndue and rigourous persecutions against them whome you cannot Iudge or condemne not being condemnable But because after soe manie humble and earnest suites and petitions english Catholicks can finde noe hope of other triall but to make their professed Enemies in this case and persecutors their Masters teachers accusers Iudges and and sentencers I am enforced to accept that moste vnequall and vnreasonable conflict to make your owne present protestant writers and proceedings Iudges betweene them and vs in their owne cause knowinge they dare not Lactāt firdiuin insti l. 4. de vera sapient ca. 12. Morton in appeale ep dedicat with any impudencie denye against the light reason and the christian philosopher that it is an inuincible argument to proue truthe which is graunted or made by enemies themselues especiallie seing by their common Harolde Doctor Morton they haue publicklie proclaimed yt in thes wordes The assistance of learned aduersaries wee

greate prosperi●y seuen and thirtie yeares and odd monethe● professing voluntary pouertie Went to Rome where in the habit of a Religeous man hee ended his life in poore estate And Ethelburga his wife became a vayled Nunne was made Abb●sse of Barkinge neare london wherein shee ended her life The Brethren of Ina● were kenten whose sonne was Aldome Abbat of Malmesbury and Bishop of Sherborne And if wee desire Example from the the Norman Race Kinge William the first by by some syrnamed Conqueror may bee added both to encouradge vs to continue in the Religion of the church of Rome and to bee fearefull either to persecute or forsake yt of him his affaires this Theater entreateth thus His holy father Pope Alexander tke seconde sett in a Theater sup pag 418. n. 19. foote sending twoe Cardinalls and a Bishop from the See Apostolick in a Councell degraded stigand Archbishop of Canterbury EgelWine Bishop of the easte Angles besides diuers other Bishops and Abbots of the english nation depriued for noo euident cause but onely to giue place to the Normans in fauour of the kinge Kinge William gaue his oathe vppon the holy Euangelists and the relicks pag. 421. of S. Alban● the Martyr Pope Gregoire sendeth hither his bulls against the mari●d cleargie Pope Gregorie in all generall Synode excluded the maryed preists from execution of their holy offices and pag. 422. forbad they lay men to hear● their Masses our Lords body and the blood of our Lord consecrated by preists To shewe how iustly and seuerely God punished the hinderance of Masse● and profession of that Religion speaking of the destroying of Religeous howses and churches hee writeth thus Kinge William pulleth downe pag. 421. 36. mother churches from mans vse and Gods seruice in Hamt●hire novv new forest Richard hi● second sonne there dyed goared vvith a deare or blasted vvith a pestilent ayre and Rusus his other 〈◊〉 46. sonne mistaken for a deare shott through vvith an Arrovve by vvalter Tyr●ll Henry likevvise his grandchilde by Robert Curtoise persuing the chase vvas struken vvith a bough in the Iavves and as Absalon le●t hanging vntill hee died t●es punishments vvith a straunge earth quake and other straunge hinges ascribed for taking away vse of Gods seruice And speaking of his greate repentance and vertuous end hee writeth thus Hee pag. 425. n. 65. 66. 64. builded many religeous howses moste certayne it is that in the verie same place Where kinge Harolds standard was pitched and vnder which himselfe was slayne there William the Conqueror laid that foundation Battle Abb●y d●dicating yt to the Holy Trinitie and to S. Martine that there the monkes might pray for the soules of Harold and pag. 423. the rest that were slayne in that place hee repenteth him of his crueltie in England doth not a●count yt his owne but Gods Hee giueth his Crowne and ornaments therto belonging to the monkes pag. 422. 423. of Saint Stephen in Cane Hee giueth to his sonne Henry Beaucler●ke onely 5000. prounde without any contry proph●syinge how hee should bee heire to all Th● dying kinge for kinge must dye hauinge pag. 424. nu 56. pag. 223. raised vp his weake body vppon the pillo●es hard the sounde of the greate Bell in the metropolitane church of Saint G●●uis neare Roan demaundinge the cause one replyed that it did then ring● prim● to our ladi● ●herevpon with greate deuotion lifting his eyes towards heauen spreadinge abroade his handes I commend myselfe saith hee to that blessed ladie Mary Mother of God that shee by her holy prayers may reconcile mee to her most deare owne our Lord Iesus Christ and with thes wordes yeelded vp the Ghost Their protestant Archbisop Parker is lately with applaose new printed and speaking of the Romane Religion and authoritie abrogated by the new lawes of kinge Henry the 8. writeth thus Parker Antiq. Britan p 329. His legibus by thes lawes the power of the Pope that had continued in England aboue 900. yeares hee meaneth from the tyme of our Conuersion by S. Augustine sent hether by Pope and Saint Gregory was ouerthrown● And M. Mason Masō booke of Consecr in M. Park with his directing protestant Bishops assure vs that this Matthew Parker was allowed for Archbishop of Canterbury by other order then any his predecessors in the See of Canterbury Therefore wee may not forsake the Religion of Rome soe embraced and honored by all Christian kinges princes Bishops and true beleeuing subiects vntill this time of protestants by their owne testimonies Againe I argue in this maner Noe Religion that is soe farr from truthe and to bee iustifiable for good and holy that the cheifest professors and doctors thereof acknowledge generally that it is false erroneous or fallible may bee communicated withall But the English parlament protestant Religion is such Therefore not to bee communicated with The maior proposition is euidently true for as thes protestants haue taught vs before noe communion is to bee had in spirituall things with men of a false and deceatefull Religion for such by noe possibilitie can bee the infallible and most vndoubted word reuelation of God which by noe power can either bee false or doubtfull But the phantasticall deuise Imagination and humane hereticall Inuention of seducers The minor proposition is soe generally graunted by the protestants of England That D. Morton Morton Apolog part 2. pag. 315. with publicke pri●iledge absolutely for them all writeth thus Thesis generalis nullus est omnino in ecclesia cuius Iudicium est infallibilis authoritatis Yt is a generall maxime And so to bee receaued of them all That there is non at all in the church whose iudgment is of vnfallible a●thoritie D. Willet giueth this testimonie In England will Antilog praef angl pa. 71. 120. 150 43. Praefat. to the Reader supr the temporall prince is Gouernor Ruler cheefe Ouerseer and Steward of the church to whose Iudgment and redresse the reformation of Religion belongeth Yet thee addeth thus neither hee nor any in their church haue any priuiledge from error And this is soe manifest by the often chaungings and choppings of their Religion by kinge Henry 8. kinge Edward 6. and Queene Elizabeth that to goe noe further their errors and contradictions defended and published by their owne statutes are shamefull to bee recited and soe euidently knowne that their protestant Bishop of Peterborough Doue persuasion with others doe freely acknowledge yt that all protestant princes with their church had erred and seduced others Or yf against all hope or possibilitie in S. Edwyne sands opinion wee Relation of Religion might expect a generall councell by their doctrine which not onely hee but all protestants confining spirituall iurisdiction to call councells onely to the temporall and ciuill authoritie of particul●r princes and contryes wherein they rule and noe farther much lesse ouer all nations Christian as the Pope claymeth yett to

the want of good workes is a knowledge and distinguishing signe belonginge to chaffe false disciples children of Sathan and vnbeleeuers to discerne them from the true beleeuers and seruants of God I argue thus Noe societie Congregation or companie of men which by their owne testimonies doe not onely want good workes but bee generally defiled with most heynous and greuous syns can bee the children of God true beleeuers or to bee communicated with in causes of Religion But the english protestants are in this condition Therefore not the true beleeuers true church or to bee communicated with in spirituall things The maior proposition is the common doctrine of all those protestant churches before remembred And the minor proposition of the impietie and wickednes of protestants is thus proued by their owne writings M. Hull speakinge of his fellowe protestants writeth thus These are the dayes whereof our Sauiour Hull Rom. polec pref●● Christ and his Apostles soe longe agoe prophesied wherein charitie should waxe colde and faith should searce appeare wherein men should bee ●●idebacks from Christ and Apostates from true Religion wherein they should bee louers of themselues couetous cursed speakers disobedient vntankefull vnholy true breakers false accusers despisers of them that are good traytors headie high minded louers of pleasures more them of God hauinge a shewe of Godlines but haue denyed the power thereof yea wherein men are become vsers newters temporisers Atheistes An other protestant writeth in these termes The protestans Cort. consid●rat An. 1605. epist d●dicat Religion of England is much like an euill herbe which if it bee not speedely rooted vpp but suffered to spreade will soone ouerspreade the gard●ns of God with vice and impietie as there will scarcely Willet Antilog pa 28 hath these words Wee iustely complayne of the prophanes of these times and of the ouerflowinge of iniquitie euen where Religion is moste puerly professed Then that Religion must needs bee Parkes Apolog epist dedicat impuer by their former doctrine M. Parkes alsoe speakinge of protestants speaketh in this maner euery man maketh Religion the handemaide of his affections We● are come to that declinge age of the worlde foretolde by the Apostle 2. Tim. 1. 2. 3. 4. wherein men should bee louers of themselues fastidious arrogant couetous maledicous immorigerous c. for euen such are these our times selfe loue hath banished sobrietie prid● humilitie malice charitie disobedience dutie dissention vnitie prophanesse sanctitie and in a 〈◊〉 sayned zeale true deuotion Concerninge the pretended ministers how far they are ouerwhelmed with wickednes is spoken befor To which I add these protestant testimonies M. Ormerod writeth thus The taunts and contumelies Ormer pict pur f. 3. l 4. of Ministers against Ministers are vnchristean they refuse to salute one an other but one spitteth in the face of an other wishinge the plaque of God to light vppon them saying they were damned Neither is this peculiar to english ministers for the protestant relator of religion writeth thus of forreyne ministers In the diuision Relation cap. 4● of protestants into their factions the ministers haue soe behaued themselues that it threatneth a greate ruyne and calamitie neither is there any greate doubt but if any stay and agreement could bee taken with the turke all Germanie wers in daunger to bee in vproare within it selfe by intestine dissention To this lamentable extremitie hath the headines of the mininisters brought it But of their moste wicked both doctrine and behauiour against princes and common wealthe I will entreate hereafter In the meane time it i● allreadie euident that this moste vile and prophane state of wickednes is not in some few as may bee fownde amonge men of true Religion not lyuinge accordinge to the rules thereof But generall and vniuersall which must needs proceede from the nature of their pretended Religion it selfe hauing in yt and publishinge to the worlde to all men to vewe and followe soe many errors tendinge and leadinge vnto all libertie and licentiousnes of life and neither hauinge sacraments or any instrument of grace to preuent synnes and their occasions in any callinge or state of men marryed o● vnmaryed olde or yonge cleargie or laitie lyuinge or dyinge nor any one rule to warrant vnto them for true faith any one article which they hold whether in yt selfe it bee true or false all which more absurdities of such nature are demonstratiuely befor proued against them by their owne writings The 11. particular protestant demonstration for Catholicks iust Recusancie is Because the English protestants by their owne writings are not onely enemies to the temporall princes claime of supreamacie in ecclesiasticall causes aduauncing their Bishops and presbyteries aboue yt but deny alsoe his suu●ranitie in matters temporall by their consequences NOw lett vs come to those Questions for which soe many Catholicks and Religeous parsons haue suffered Martyrdome and moste greuous persecutions in the times of kinge Henry 8. Queene Elizabeth and our present Soueraigne kinge Iames the claymed supreame spirituall power of temporall princes in cause ecclesiasticall in this kingedome and that power and Authoritie concerning temporall princes which these english protestants affirme Catholickes doe giue to the Pope of the highest apostolicke See of Rome proued before by these protestants to bee supreame heade gouernor an earthe of Christs churche and greatest commaunding iudge in spirituall causes I am to proue in this demonstration That these protestant Bishops puritanes and presbyterie by their owne testimonies giue not soe much power and authoritie to the tēporall prince as wee doe And yett arrogate challendge to themselues in their pretended Bishops and presbiterie more commaunde iurisdiction and authoritie ouer temporall kings and princes then Catholicke writers and scholes allowe or attribute to the Pope of Rome And that if the parlament had framed an oathe as much concerninge the power of their Bishops and presbiteries as their soe named Oathe of alleadgeance concerneth the Popes priuil●dges Noe protestant or puritane by the groundes of their Religion should coulde or might haue taken yt What they would or will doe in such a case I dare not vndertake for men soe conuicted before to bee by their owne testimonies most notorious dissemblers deceauers willfull seducers lyers periured and foresworne people in matters of Religion And this is made moste manifest that allthough they generally condemne their owne Religion for hereticall their seruice for damnable their ministery for Antichristian or none at all their supposed ordination for ridiculous The articles of their Religion for false and erroneous Their Canons and Censures to bee vngodly vnlawfull as is proued by themselues before and absolutely deny the kings supreamacie in most daūgerous degree as will be euidēt against them by their owne writings in this Chapter yett contrary to all ●ruthe Religion conscienc● and morall honestie they haue generally sworne protested subscribed vnto and doe practice to their owne damnation in these