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reply_v 1._o in_o say_v christ_n be_v call_v a_o rock_n and_o peter_n a_o stone_n do_v you_o not_o more_o than_o insinuate_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o a_o stone_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o own_o quotation_n ephes_n 2.20_o christ_n himself_o be_v the_o chief_a cornerstone_n though_o i_o confess_v it_o be_v not_o the_o same_o word_n in_o the_o original_n 〈◊〉_d original_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nay_o contrary_a to_o diverse_a oâ—her_n scripture_n where_o christ_n be_v express_o call_v a_o stone_n e._n gr_n isa_n 28.16_o behold_v i_o lie_v in_o zion_n for_o a_o foundation_n a_o stone_n act._n 4.11_o this_o be_v the_o stone_n which_o be_v set_v at_o nought_o by_o you_o bvilder_n yea_o in_o the_o very_a place_n even_o now_o by_o you_o cite_v 21.42_o psal_n 118.22_o with_o mat._n 21.42_o 1_o pet._n 2.4_o to_o who_o come_v as_o unto_o a_o live_a stone_n 2._o though_o i_o be_o far_o from_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o peter_n in_o the_o popish_a sense_n yet_o i_o may_v true_o and_o safe_o hold_v that_o in_o some_o sense_n the_o church_n be_v build_v on_o peter_n for_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o peter_n be_v a_o apostle_n and_o it_o be_v as_o plain_a ephes_n 2_o 20._o we_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n this_o be_v no_o whit_n helpful_a to_o the_o papist_n nor_o hurtful_a to_o we_o 3._o admit_v the_o church_n be_v not_o build_v upon_o peter_n yet_o your_o reason_n be_v very_o weak_a because_o forsooth_o peter_n be_v or_o be_v call_v a_o stone_n sure_o you_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o gratify_v your_o dear_a mother_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n notwithstanding_o your_o loud_a cry_n as_o the_o papist_n say_v the_o learned_a give_v we_o better_a reason_n to_o instance_n only_o in_o one_o 24._o one_o chemn_v har._n mon_fw-fr cap._n 24._o peter_n have_v his_o name_n ab_fw-la illa_fw-la petra_fw-la from_o that_o rock_n for_o two_o cause_n 1._o because_o notwithstanding_o satan_n subtlety_n and_o his_o own_o infirmity_n luke_n 22.31_o 32_o he_o shall_v adhere_v to_o that_o rock_n and_o be_v as_o a_o live_a stone_n build_v on_o he_o 2._o because_o by_o his_o ministry_n and_o confession_n mat._n 16.18_o christ_n will_v build_v his_o church_n on_o himself_o the_o true_a rock_n 4._o if_o it_o be_v plain_a in_o christ_n word_n 16.18_o word_n mat._n 16.18_o that_o the_o saint_n ought_v to_o build_v on_o christ_n the_o foundation_n than_o something_o may_v be_v plain_a by_o consequence_n which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o text_n you_o be_v for_o consequence_n betimes_o sect_n 3._o h._n h._n pag._n 2._o and_o who_o that_o be_v a_o christian_n know_v not_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n therefore_o david_n say_v 2_o sam._n 22.2_o the_o lord_n be_v my_o rock_n and_o verse_n 47._o bless_a be_v the_o god_n of_o the_o rock_n of_o my_o salvation_n etc._n etc._n all_o which_o i_o suppose_v will_v not_o be_v deny_v by_o any_o that_o own_o christ_n reply_v 1_o you_o may_v do_v well_o to_o examine_v thorough_o whether_o your_o church_n be_v build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n 2._o to_o say_v nothing_o that_o you_o do_v not_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o david_n as_o they_o be_v in_o our_o bible_n special_o verse_n 47._o if_o every_o christian_a know_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n and_o none_o that_o own_o christ_n will_v deny_v it_o then_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v own_v i_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o my_o persuasion_n for_o christian_n and_o owner_n of_o christ_n who_o be_v neither_o ignorant_a of_o the_o one_o nor_o denier_n of_o the_o other_o this_o be_v the_o best_a if_o not_o the_o only_a piece_n of_o charity_n that_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o book_n sect_n 4._o h._n h._n but_o the_o main_a question_n be_v how_o the_o saint_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o build_v on_o this_o rock_n christ_n which_o be_v clear_o answer_v by_o these_o follow_a scripture_n mat._n 7.24_o whosoever_o hear_v these_o say_n of_o i_o and_o do_v they_o i_o will_v liken_v he_o to_o a_o wise_a man_n that_o build_v his_o house_n upon_o a_o rock_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o to_o build_v on_o the_o rock_n christ_n be_v to_o hear_v the_o say_n and_o do_v they_o and_o the_o contrary_n liken_v to_o a_o foolish_a man_n etc._n etc._n liable_a to_o danger_n and_o destruction_n act._n 3.22_o 23._o with_o 2_o thes_n 1.8_o 9_o 1_o joh._n 2.4_o rev._n 21.8_o reply_v 1_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v whether_o those_o word_n in_o mat._n admit_v not_o clear_o a_o limitation_n to_o that_o sermon_n preach_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o mount_n for_o it_o be_v say_v for_o 24._o whosoever_o hear_v these_o say_n of_o i_o and_o do_v they_o not_o etc._n etc._n ver._n 26._o every_o one_o that_o hear_v these_o say_n of_o i_o etc._n etc._n in_o which_o sermon_n christ_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o the_o nature_n or_o subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o so_o the_o design_n you_o drive_v at_o in_o allege_v these_o word_n be_v quite_o spoil_v 2._o admit_v the_o word_n be_v of_o a_o large_a extent_n because_o it_o be_v say_v luke_n 6_o 47._o whosoever_o come_v to_o i_o and_o hear_v my_o saying_n indefinite_o and_o do_v they_o and_o verse_n 49_o he_o that_o hear_v and_o do_v not_o etc._n etc._n yet_o this_o scripture_n show_v not_o how_o the_o saint_n build_v on_o this_o rock_n as_o you_o pretend_v but_o who_o they_o be_v that_o build_v on_o he_o or_o build_v not_o on_o he_o 3._o you_o write_v very_o raw_o and_o indistinct_o for_o certain_o there_o be_v some_o temporary_a command_n or_o say_n of_o christ_n e._n g._n mat_n 10.8_o grot._n 10.8_o hoc_fw-la symbolum_fw-la pro_fw-la illotempore_o praeceptum_fw-la quo_fw-la certior_fw-la ipsis_fw-la esset_fw-la divinae_fw-la providentiae_fw-la experientia_fw-la ut_fw-la reâ—ti_fw-la chrysost_fw-la notavit_fw-la grot._n heal_n the_o sick_a cleanse_v the_o leper_n raise_v the_o dead_a cast_v out_o devil_n free_o you_o have_v receive_v free_o give_v verse_n 9_o provide_v 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himself_o the_o son_n of_o god_n i._n e._n he_o affirm_v and_o declare_v himself_o and_o look_v as_o baptism_n be_v say_v to_o save_v 1_o pet._n 3.21_o not_o that_o it_o constitute_v our_o salvation_n but_o signify_v and_o sealâ—_n it_o so_o in_o baptism_n we_o may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v make_v member_n of_o christ_n i._n e._n our_o membership_n be_v signify_v etc._n etc._n thereby_o and_o not_o constitute_v 3._o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o if_o child_n be_v make_v member_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n then_o they_o be_v not_o before_o no_o more_o than_o this_o 2.36_o this_o act_n 2.36_o god_n make_v christ_n lord_n after_o his_o resurrection_n therefore_o he_o be_v not_o so_o before_o or_o that_o a_o man_n be_v in_o marriage_n make_v such_o a_o woman_n husband_n therefore_o he_o be_v not_o so_o before_o though_o precontract_v sect_n 3._o h._n h._n now_o if_o you_o disow_v the_o common-praier-book_n and_o that_o catechism_n you_o may_v disow_v your_o baptism_n which_o you_o have_v 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