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A20950 A learned treatise of traditions, lately set forth in French by Peter Du Moulin, and faithfully done into English by G.C.; Des traditions et de la perfection et suffisance de l'Escriture Saincte. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; G. C. 1631 (1631) STC 7329; ESTC S111075 138,687 440

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pag._n 76._o cha._n 8._o a_o proof_n of_o the_o same_o by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n p._n 110._o chap._n 9_o three_o reason_n wherefore_o tradition_n be_v prefer_v before_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 121._o chap._n 10._o that_o in_o this_o question_n by_o the_o word_n church_n our_o adversary_n understand_v the_o pope_n alone_o pag._n 129._o chap._n 11._o of_o what_o sort_n how_o weak_a and_o how_o uncertain_a the_o foundation_n be_v whereon_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v build_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 139._o chap._n 12._o that_o our_o adversary_n allege_v the_o scripture_n do_v contradict_v themselves_o and_o allege_v scripture_n for_o tradition_n in_o general_a without_o touch_v the_o particular_n wherein_o they_o find_v the_o scripture_n contrary_a pag._n 165._o chap._n 13._o that_o our_o adversary_n to_o distinguish_v the_o good_a tradition_n from_o bad_a do_v give_v we_o a_o plea_n wherein_o th●y_o whole_o convict_v 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christ_n have_v have_v no_o unwritten_a tradition_n p._n 236._o cha._n 20._o a_o answer_n to_o our_o adversary_n affirm_v that_o we_o receive_v many_o tradition_n contain_v in_o scripture_n p._n 254_o chap._n 21._o a_o proof_n of_o the_o sufficiency_n and_o perfection_n of_o the_o scripture_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o god_n himself_o speak_v in_o the_o scripture_n p._n 267._o chap._n 22._o whether_o to_o ground_v a_o doctrine_n it_o be_v lawful_a to_o use_v word_n equivalent_a to_o those_o that_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n or_o to_o use_v consequence_n and_o argument_n pag._n 298._o chap._n 23._o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n touch_v the_o perfection_n of_o the_o scripture_n pag._n 322._o cha._n 24._o how_o the_o text_n and_o passage_n of_o the_o father_n which_o our_o adversary_n allege_v for_o the_o unwritten_a tradition_n aught_o to_o be_v understand_v p._n 346._o chap._n 25._o a_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o go_v before_o pag._n 349._o cha._n 26._o three_o ancient_a 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