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A85312 Of schism. Parochial congregations in England, and ordination by imposition of hands. Wherein Dr. Owen's discovery of the true nature of schism is briefly and friendly examined, together with Mr. Noyes of New England his arguments against imposition of hands in ordination. / By Giles Firmin, sometime of new England, now pastor of the Church at Shalford in Essex. Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697. 1658 (1658) Wing F958; Thomason E1819_1; ESTC R209761 90,499 170

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church_n parallel_v to_o corinth_n in_o all_o thing_n because_o there_o be_v the_o form_n of_o that_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o corinth_n call_v schism_n then_o if_o canseless_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n be_v ecclesiastical_a union_n causeless_o dissolve_v there_o must_v needs_o by_o consequence_n be_v schism_n also_o for_o posita_fw-la forma_fw-la ponitur_fw-la formatum_fw-la 4._o the_o doctor_n tell_v we_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o use_v in_o the_o scripture_n for_o secession_n or_o separation_n into_o party_n division_n it_o do_v signify_v but_o do_v the_o propriety_n of_o the_o word_n forbid_v it_o to_o signify_v division_n into_o party_n in_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sense_n it_o be_v use_v only_o in_o this_o particular_a example_n he_o say_v therefore_o it_o can_v signify_v no_o other_o i_o suppose_v the_o syriack_n translator_n be_v not_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v mind_n for_o he_o use_v that_o word_n in_o the_o 11._o ch_z 18._o &_o 12._o ch_z 25._o which_o come_v from_o the_o same_o root_n with_o peleg_n gen._n 10.25_o whence_o peleg_n have_v his_o name_n the_o text_n tell_v we_o and_o i_o think_v there_o be_v division_n into_o many_o party_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o its_o primitive_a signification_n will_v carry_v a_o division_n into_o part_n matth._n 27.51_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o grant_v the_o septuagint_n see_v septuagint_n other_o greek_a version_n i_o have_v not_o to_o see_v do_v not_o use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o 1_o kin._n 11.11_o 31._o yet_o why_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v not_o be_v translate_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o signify_v what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v i_o know_v not_o i_o conceive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v of_o a_o large_a signification_n than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o comprehend_v what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v this_o appear_v 1._o by_o the_o learned_a who_o as_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o findo_fw-mi scindo_fw-mi so_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d findere_fw-la scindere_fw-la qui_fw-la pannum_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquod_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la continuum_fw-la dirumpit_fw-la etc._n etc._n buxt_v schind_a pagn_n merc._n hence_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v scissura_fw-la so_o the_o 70._o in_o v._o 30_o &_o 31_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d scissurae_fw-la so_o the_o vulgar_a render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 31._o nor_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d always_o signify_v the_o rend_n of_o a_o thing_n into_o part_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o doctor_n be_v notion_n more_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o among_o the_o physician_n a_o rapture_n in_o a_o membrane_n the_o rend_n of_o a_o muscle_n they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o the_o part_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o body_n so_o gorraeus_n 2._o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 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think_v it_o in_o vain_a because_o the_o doctor_n have_v lay_v a_o bar_n against_o they_o all_o they_o be_v all_o mistake_v and_o so_o their_o authority_n be_v worth_a nothing_o but_o when_o i_o have_v do_v two_o man_n come_v into_o my_o mind_n who_o be_v near_o to_o the_o doctor_n be_v principle_n be_v congregational_a man_n and_o therefore_o have_v need_n to_o look_v to_o themselves_o in_o their_o definition_n of_o schism_n man_n of_o great_a renown_n for_o learning_n and_o piety_n dr._n ames_n and_o our_o mr._n norton_n in_o n._n e._n in_o answer_n to_o the_o q._n quid_fw-la est_fw-la schisma_fw-la i_o find_v ames_n thus_o answer_v schisma_fw-la dicitur_fw-la a_o scindendo_fw-la &_o est_fw-la scissio_fw-la separatio_fw-la disjunctio_fw-la aut_fw-la dissolutio_fw-la vnionis_fw-la illius_fw-la quae_fw-la debet_fw-la inter_fw-la christianos_n observari_fw-la i_o be_v near_a to_o the_o doctor_n be_v definition_n then_o i_o be_v aware_a of_o but_o then_o he_o add_v quia_fw-la autem_fw-la 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confident_a those_o divine_n who_o use_v this_o argument_n do_v acknowledge_v there_o be_v ordination_n 2._o if_o a_o person_n be_v separate_v to_o the_o work_n of_o a_o officer_n i_o think_v he_o be_v separate_v to_o the_o office_n which_o that_o work_n belong_v to_o q._n but_o what_o office_n be_v it_o to_o which_o they_o be_v now_o separate_v a._n to_o be_v apostle_n to_o the_o gentile_n this_o i_o conceive_v be_v the_o business_n and_o if_o we_o follow_v they_o in_o this_o and_o the_o next_o chapter_n we_o shall_v find_v what_o be_v the_o office_n i_o think_v verse_n 15._o of_o chapter_n 9_o be_v now_o fulfil_v the_o lord_n tell_v ananias_n that_o paul_n be_v a_o choose_a vessel_n to_o bear_v his_o name_n among_o the_o gentile_n and_o now_o be_v paul_n ordain_v to_o it_o and_o not_o before_o this_o be_v a_o great_a work_n indeed_o to_o have_v the_o gentile_n bring_v into_o the_o church_n there_o be_v need_n of_o some_o solemn_a act_n to_o prove_v their_o commission_n observe_v 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saul_n must_v be_v one_o of_o those_o or_o else_o five_o will_v not_o be_v find_v have_v saul_n be_v then_o a_o apostle_n than_o it_o shall_v have_v be_v there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n a_o apostle_n prophet_n and_o teacher_n but_o luke_n do_v not_o mention_v a_o apostle_n which_o sure_o he_o will_v since_o he_o do_v inferior_a officer_n for_o my_o part_n i_o conceive_v paul_n be_v a_o prophet_n partly_o because_o he_o be_v fill_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n act_v 9.17_o paul_n have_v there_o a_o authoritative_a mission_n to_o preach_v as_o i_o conceive_v the_o prophet_n mention_v be_v extraordinary_a person_n and_o their_o gift_n such_o for_o aught_o any_o thing_n i_o can_v ever_o see_v to_o the_o contrary_a as_o yet_o partly_o because_o i_o find_v prophet_n do_v go_v from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o according_a as_o there_o be_v cause_n be_v man_n so_o extraordinary_o fit_v for_o service_n thus_o judas_n and_o silas_n chap._n 15.32_o be_v prophet_n be_v send_v etc._n etc._n thus_o chap._n 11.27_o prophet_n come_v from_o jerusalem_n to_o antioch_n thus_o we_o find_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n join_v and_o send_v together_o chapter_n 11.30_o and_o 12.25_o and_o these_o two_o abode_n together_o a_o whole_a year_n at_o antioch_n chap._n 11.26_o but_o that_o he_o be_v a_o apostle_n before_o now_o i_o see_v nothing_o to_o force_v it_o paul_n then_o be_v one_o of_o these_o and_o now_o call_v to_o a_o high_a office_n this_o do_v not_o prove_v re-ordination_a to_o the_o same_o office_n any_o person_n in_o office_n and_o call_v to_o a_o high_a office_n aught_o to_o be_v ordain_v to_o it_o though_o he_o be_v ordain_v to_o a_o inferior_a office_n before_o re-ordination_a to_o the_o same_o office_n i_o know_v no_o warrant_n for_o 3._o after_o christ_n ascension_n apostle_n be_v not_o choose_v in_o such_o a_o private_a way_n as_o that_o act_n 9_o will_v hold_v out_o we_o find_v mathias_n act_v 1._o choose_v in_o a_o public_a and_o solemn_a manner_n god_n declare_v his_o choice_n so_o here_o in_o act_n 13._o in_o a_o public_a meeting_n paul_n be_v call_v and_o separate_v in_o a_o solemn_a manner_n obj._n 3_o if_o paul_n be_v ordain_v a_o apostle_n than_o the_o great_a be_v bless_v of_o the_o lesser_a his_o apostolical_a power_n and_o order_n be_v give_v by_o they_o who_o themselves_o have_v not_o apostolical_a power_n be_v but_o prophet_n and_o teacher_n a._n 1._o they_o be_v not_o command_v to_o bless_v but_o separate_v ordination_n and_o blessing_n differ_v very_o much_o we_o may_v as_o well_o say_v why_o shall_v the_o less_o separate_v the_o great_a so_o we_o find_v it_o here_o and_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o dispute_v against_o it_o if_o god_n will_v have_v it_o so_o but_o this_o be_v extraordinary_a 2._o paul_n apostolical_a power_n he_o receive_v from_o he_o who_o command_v he_o to_o be_v separate_v that_o be_v the_o holy_a ghost_n yet_o he_o be_v please_v to_o command_v these_o to_o separate_v he_o to_o it_o and_o sure_o such_o person_n who_o ordain_v other_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o immediate_a command_n and_o revelation_n from_o god_n though_o their_o office_n be_v inferior_a to_o the_o person_n ordain_v yet_o this_o immediate_a command_n and_o revelation_n will_v countervail_v the_o act_n of_o other_o who_o be_v equal_a in_o office_n they_o act_v all_o by_o a_o immediate_a and_o extraordinary_a revelation_n whence_o paul_n may_v well_o say_v it_o be_v by_o the_o will_n of_o god_n not_o of_o man_n that_o he_o be_v a_o apostle_n hence_o the_o text_n say_v v._o 4._o they_o be_v send_v forth_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o call_n be_v from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o command_n to_o separate_v they_o be_v from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 3._o that_o barnabas_n be_v make_v a_o apostle_n now_o i_o think_v will_v not_o be_v deny_v that_o he_o be_v a_o apostle_n chap._n 14._o v._n 14._o tell_v we_o which_o when_o the_o apostle_n barnabas_n and_o paul_n etc._n etc._n thus_o clem._n alex._n strom._n l._n 2._o p._n 373_o &_o 375._o mention_v some_o of_o the_o writing_n of_o barnabas_n call_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d twice_o thus_o hierom_n catal._n script_n eccles_n say_v of_o he_o barnabas_n be_v ordain_v apostle_n of_o the_o gentale_n with_o paul_n other_o i._n can_v quote_v who_o call_v he_o the_o apostle_n barnabas_n but_o that_o barnabas_n be_v a_o apostle_n before_o now_o i_o think_v none_o will_v say_v for_o the_o text_n be_v clear_a against_o he_o why_o then_o paul_n shall_v not_o now_o be_v make_v a_o apostle_n also_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n as_o well_o as_o barnabas_n hierom_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 4._o if_o paul_n be_v separate_v before_o to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o apostle_n what_o need_v he_o be_v separate_v now_o again_o i_o know_v no_o instance_n in_o scripture_n where_o man_n be_v twice_o separate_v to_o the_o same_o office_n corn._n a_o lap._n upon_o the_o text_n speak_v thus_o saulus_fw-la jam_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la suae_fw-la conversionis_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la designatus_fw-la &_o auctoratus_fw-la erat_fw-la apostolus_fw-la gentium_fw-la act_n 9.15_o sed_fw-la in_o actu_fw-la primo_fw-la &_o secretè_fw-la hìc_fw-la in_o actu_fw-la secundo_fw-la &_o publicè_fw-la designatur_fw-la apostolus_fw-la mr._n noyes_n who_o write_v against_o impostion_n of_o hand_n find_v it_o use_v in_o this_o place_n say_v paul_n be_v indeed_o call_v out_o of_o course_n and_o therefore_o god_n may_v by_o this_o sign_n with_o many_o other_o commend_v paul_n to_o the_o church_n as_o a_o apostle_n of_o christ_n yet_o but_o a_o evangelist_n as_o yet_o with_o he_o see_v waltherus_n harmon_n p._n 490._o also_o aretius_n upon_o the_o text._n arg._n 2._o if_o christ_n have_v commit_v power_n to_o minister_n to_o ordain_v minister_n than_o ordination_n be_v
42._o s._n 41_o 42_o 50._o 5._o carry_v the_o objection_n to_o our_o first_o reformer_n where_o it_o shall_v seem_v to_o have_v most_o strength_n what_o godly_a man_n be_v there_o who_o call_v to_o mind_n cranmer_n latimer_n hooper_n ridly_n philpot_n bradford_n etc._n etc._n person_n upon_o who_o this_o objection_n will_v fall_v as_o to_o their_o own_o ministry_n and_o their_o ordain_v of_o other_o that_o will_v not_o be_v ashamed_a of_o himself_o shall_v he_o null_a their_o ministry_n and_o as_o some_o though_o this_o divine_a abhor_v it_o i_o believe_v who_o mouth_n be_v full_a of_o nothing_o but_o antichristian_a call_v these_o antichristian_a minister_n because_o ordain_v by_o popish_a man_n thou_o who_o call_v these_o antichristian_a minister_n rise_v up_o with_o they_o in_o the_o morning_n answer_v they_o in_o holiness_n go_v to_o the_o prison_n with_o they_o and_o from_o thence_o to_o the_o stake_n and_o burn_v with_o they_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o christ_n grant_v it_o they_o be_v ordain_v as_o the_o objection_n run_v after_o enlighten_v they_o throw_v off_o popery_n but_o their_o ordination_n they_o hold_v be_v no_o popish_a invention_n they_o go_v on_o still_o to_o preach_v baptize_v etc._n etc._n and_o ordain_v other_o why_o not_o when_o these_o man_n be_v ordain_v by_o such_o man_n they_o have_v a_o ministerial_a charge_n put_v upon_o they_o set_z apart_z to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o dispense_v the_o thing_n of_o christ_n not_o of_o mahomet_n or_o such_o like_a while_o they_o be_v in_o the_o dark_a they_o act_v superstitious_o afterward_o more_o pure_o the_o corruption_n they_o reform_v the_o substance_n they_o keep_v and_o so_o our_o divine_n now_o will_n not_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n pardon_v this_o and_o keep_v his_o sacrifice_n still_o in_o his_o church_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o he_o will_n the_o usual_a distinction_n make_v 1._o between_o a_o person_n and_o his_o office_n 2._o between_o the_o substance_n of_o a_o ordinance_n and_o the_o accidental_a corruption_n of_o it_o 3._o between_o what_o come_v through_o rome_n be_v christ_n institution_n and_o what_o come_v from_o rome_n be_v their_o own_o invention_n these_o distinction_n will_v soon_o answer_v the_o objection_n 6._o 66._o to._n 2._o p._n 66._o learned_a aim_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmin_n urge_v this_o ecclesia_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la sine_fw-la pastoribus_fw-la &_o episcopis_fw-la illi_fw-la soli_fw-la sunt_fw-la very_fw-la episcopi_fw-la qui_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n per_fw-la legitimam_fw-la successionem_fw-la &_o ordinationem_fw-la descendisse_fw-la ostenduntur_fw-la etc._n etc._n speak_v thus_o ab_fw-la apostolis_n descenderunt_fw-la own_v illi_fw-la pastor_n qui_fw-la secundum_fw-la canon_n apostolicos_fw-la in_o scripture_n traditos_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la constituti_fw-la 4._o horum_fw-la perpetua_fw-la successio_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n &_o apostolicis_fw-la viris_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la necessariò_fw-la ostendenda_fw-la ex_fw-la historiarum_fw-la humanarum_fw-la incertis_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la promissione_n illa_fw-la christi_fw-la qua_fw-la spospondit_fw-fr se_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la aetates_fw-la excitaturum_fw-la operarios_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la electorum_fw-la procurandam_fw-la 5._o ordinandi_fw-la potestas_fw-la quoad_fw-la jus_o cuique_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la particulari_fw-la est_fw-la a_o deo_fw-la concessa_fw-la now_o for_o his_o last_o 6._o pastor_n hunc_fw-la in_o modunt_fw-la descendentes_fw-la &_o justo_fw-la jure_fw-la ordinatos_fw-la habemus_fw-la nos_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la gratiam_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la ex_fw-la voto_fw-la nostro_fw-la constitutis_fw-la if_o any_o shall_v take_v hold_n of_o the_o last_o word_n and_o suppose_v the_o doctor_n mean_v gather_v church_n in_o which_o the_o people_n do_v ordain_v sure_o they_o wrong_v the_o doctor_n much_o i_o wonder_v how_o many_o such_o church_n there_o be_v when_o the_o doctor_n write_v neither_o have_v the_o doctor_n answer_v bellarmin_n who_o oppose_v all_o minister_n not_o ordain_v by_o the_o roman_a power_n but_o have_v fall_v off_o from_o rome_n then_o the_o doctor_n must_v own_v the_o ordination_n of_o the_o reform_a minister_n else_o he_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o jesuit_n i_o wish_v this_o divine_a will_v answer_v bellarmin_n better_o doctor_n ames_n use_v to_o be_v esteem_v of_o among_o congregational_a man_n 7._o for_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o rome_n be_v more_o corrupt_a now_o in_o doctrine_n than_o it_o be_v when_o our_o first_o reformer_n fall_v off_o what_o difference_n there_o be_v between_o the_o former_a and_o latter_a schoolman_n who_o know_v not_o so_o that_o rome_n be_v not_o now_o what_o it_o be_v then_o when_o our_o man_n have_v their_o ordination_n from_o thence_o but_o may_v we_o not_o say_v as_o our_o brethren_n do_v of_o parish-congregation_n they_o will_v not_o deny_v the_o most_o understanding_n and_o sober_a of_o they_o but_o that_o in_o many_o parish_n there_o be_v true_a church_n though_o they_o will_v not_o say_v the_o whole_a parish_n be_v a_o true_a church_n according_a to_o the_o constitution_n so_o there_o be_v a_o true_a church_n under_o the_o romish_a jurisdiction_n though_o we_o do_v not_o say_v rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n but_o what_o shall_v we_o say_v to_o such_o a_o people_n where_o the_o true_a god_n and_o the_o trinity_n with_o the_o attribute_n of_o god_n jesus_n christ_n in_o his_o divine_a and_o human_a nature_n the_o satisfaction_n and_o price_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n 5._o justification_n see_v bellar_n de_fw-fr justif_a l_o 1._o c._n 2._o &_o l._n 2._o c._n 5._o and_o pardon_n the_o scripture_n all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o freegrace_n of_o god_n in_o opposition_n to_o man_n proud_a freewill_n o_fw-la excellent_a bradwardin_n and_o alvarez_n 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