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A56079 A Protestant antidote against Popery with a brief discourse of the great atheisticalness and vain amours now in fashion. Written in a letter to a young lady. By a Person of Honour. Person of honour. 1673 (1673) Wing P3820; ESTC R220564 36,838 182

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