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A61535 A defence of the discourse concerning the idolatry practised in the Church of Rome in answer to a book entituled, Catholicks no idolators / by Ed. Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1676 (1676) Wing S5571; ESTC R14728 413,642 908

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they_o he_o so_o much_o set_v forth_o the_o divinity_n of_o the_o star_n and_o the_o heaven_n he_o must_v either_o contradict_v himself_o or_o attribute_v only_o a_o inferior_a divinity_n to_o they_o and_o that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v so_o clear_o of_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o supreme_a god_n because_o he_o look_v on_o he_o as_o incomprehensible_a and_o that_o he_o can_v not_o so_o well_o know_v in_o what_o way_n it_o be_v fit_a to_o worship_v he_o 5._o however_o he_o invocate_v he_o in_o several_a place_n especial_o when_o he_o be_v to_o speak_v concern_v the_o god_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o hermias_n erastus_n and_o coriscus_n which_o he_o write_v when_o he_o be_v grow_v old_a he_o call_v to_o witness_v the_o god_n over_o all_o governor_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o time_n and_o father_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o cause_n of_o thing_n but_o as_o to_o the_o public_a manner_n of_o worship_n he_o say_v that_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o teach_v unless_o god_n himself_o direct_v he_o he_o far_o show_v that_o notwithstanding_o plato_n speak_v so_o much_o and_o so_o well_o concern_v the_o true_a god_n serran_n 6._o yet_o he_o attribute_v the_o title_n of_o divinity_n to_o several_a rank_n of_o spirit_n to_o the_o heaven_n the_o sea_n to_o the_o world_n to_o zamolxis_n to_o mercurius_n trismegistus_n and_o to_o good_a man_n in_o general_a to_o who_o he_o command_v sacrifice_n and_o other_o act_n of_o worship_n to_o be_v perform_v quoth_v in_o religione_fw-la nostra_fw-la justissimè_fw-la fit_a sanctis_fw-la &_o divis_n which_o be_v with_o great_a reason_n do_v among_o we_o to_o saint_n and_o deify_v man_n i_o now_o appeal_v to_o t._n g._n whether_o aug._n steuchus_n do_v not_o bring_v this_o matter_n very_a home_o to_o they_o when_o he_o say_v 11._o that_o they_o either_o worship_v angel_n so_o he_o say_v philo_n render_v their_o daemon_n or_o saint_n as_o they_o very_o believe_v and_o suppose_v the_o honour_n of_o these_o be_v very_o well_o please_v to_o the_o 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acknowledgement_n be_v it_o possible_a to_o conceive_v that_o they_o shall_v never_o intend_v to_o refer_v the_o honour_n they_o give_v to_o inferior_a deity_n and_o their_o image_n to_o this_o supreme_a god_n nay_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a say_v some_o they_o shall_v do_v otherwise_o since_o they_o believe_v all_o the_o other_o deity_n they_o worship_v to_o be_v create_v and_o dependent_a being_n but_o i_o need_v not_o make_v use_n of_o such_o a_o way_n of_o prove_v it_o paulus_n benius_n eugubinus_n have_v make_v it_o appear_v 213._o he_o say_v that_o according_a to_o plato_n the_o supreme_a god_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v after_o a_o singular_a and_o peculiar_a manner_n and_o he_o give_v this_o account_n of_o the_o platonic_a principle_n of_o divine_a worship_n as_o to_o inferior_a deity_n 1._o that_o plato_n god_n be_v no_o other_o than_o our_o angel_n and_o that_o he_o set_v god_n the_o maker_n of_o they_o at_o a_o mighty_a distance_n from_o they_o 2._o that_o when_o he_o speak_v so_o much_o of_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o heavenly_a body_n he_o do_v not_o thereby_o intend_v the_o worship_n shall_v be_v give_v so_o much_o to_o the_o body_n as_o to_o those_o bless_a mind_n that_o move_v they_o yea_o say_v he_o to_o they_o proper_o and_o precise_o and_o so_o that_o they_o be_v remove_v no_o honour_n or_o worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o body_n themselves_o which_o certain_o be_v no_o more_o idolatry_n on_o this_o supposition_n than_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n be_v upon_o one_o far_o more_o extravagant_a but_o he_o say_v by_o one_o place_n in_o plato_n epinomis_n it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o he_o intend_v the_o star_n shall_v be_v worship_v otherwise_o than_o as_o image_n of_o the_o god_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o very_o ingenuous_o 217._o plato_n do_v scarce_o at_o all_o differ_v unless_o in_o word_n from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o this_o matter_n 3._o that_o plato_n do_v put_v a_o difference_n in_o the_o nature_n 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