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A90854 The Popes nuntioes or, The negotiation of Seignior Panzani, Seignior Con, &c. resident here in England with the Queen, and treating about the alteration of religion with the Archbishop of Canterbury, and his adherents, in the yeares of our Lord, 1634, 1635, 1636, &c. Together with a letter to a nobleman of this kingdome, concerning the same. D. T. 1643 (1643) Wing P2937; Thomason E97_4 6,871 20

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THE POPES NUNTIOES OR The Negotiation of Seignior PANZANI Seignior CON c. Resident here in England with the Queen and treating about the Alteration of Religion WITH The Archbishop of Canterbury and his Adherents in the yeares of our Lord 1634 1635 1636 c. Together With a Letter to a Nobleman of this Kingdome concerning the same London Printed for R. B. 1643. A Letter from a private Gentleman to a person of Honour concerning the Negotiation of the Nuntioes which followeth My Lord I Have read with a studious eye this Discourse which your Lordship commended to my observation and I must confesse that I was not more sorry that England loved Rome so well than I am glad the affection betwixt them is thus discovered For although the marks of the Beast for some yeares past were legible enough in every corner of this Land and the Clergy generally could speak Italian or were apt to learn it yet such a spirit of Security did possesse us and hope and fear had such influence upon our wretched soules that wee could not see that alteration which wee lookt upon and the Gospell was almost fled away before we beleeved it had any wings But the great and mysterious Riddle is now unfoulded and those Curtaines of Peace and Charity which did so speciously cover this Work of Darknesse are drawn from off it He that will not understand that Tib●● and Thames were almost in one Channell shall have my vote to graze upon the Mountains and forfeit his reasonable soule which in so clear a day will not discern the waters running I beleeve your Lordship with more boldnesse will concurre in this sentence when you shall hear that the Venetian Embassadour was the Author of this little Story A man whose Religion would not permit him to favour the reformed Churches or to blast his own with any falshood especially in an accompt to a wise State which had employed him A man of deare acquaintance with Panzani and although no master builder yet a pious servant and spectator of the work When you shall also hear that the Italian Copy was first translated into French for the great Cardinals satisfaction and I do not doubt it hath good acquaintance in the Spanish Court and could speak that language long ago I could proceed further but that the limits of a letter cannot receive my thoughts concerning this argument and my eyes behold so much light that they are altogether dazled with the lustre A short time if God permit shall produce such a volume which may prove me not only a lover of the truth but in all lawfull Commands Your Lordships most obedient Servant D. T. THE POPES NVNTIOES OR The Negotiation of Seignior Panzani Seignior Con c. resident here in England with the Queen and treating about alteration of RELIGION WITH The Archbishop of Canterbury and his Adherents in the yeers of our LORD 1634. 1635. 1636. c. RELIGION having a great power over the spirit of Man and an incomparable force thereupon to produce effects extraordinarie some men embrace it with sinceritie of affection as a way leading to true felicitie but others esteeme more of it for the generall profit which redounds from it to humane societie then for any other excellence discerned in it Princes and sage Polititians are of this latter sort of men giving reverence to it for the commoditie which they receive from it as well knowing by experience of all ages that there is nothing more proper to preserve men in concord and render the people obedient to the higher Powers Therefore the most advised and reserved Princes though in their souls they make no account of Religion yet in appearance they alwayes endeavour to seeme extreamly religious and inflict exemplary punishment on such as attempt any thing against the puritie of it foreseeing with great prudence that it is impossible any alteration of Religion should happen without trouble and distraction in the State And indeed in these latter times we see those States and Realms which have prevented divisions of Religion have maintained themselves in peace and tranquillitie as Italy and Spaine whereas in others on the contrary where the introducing of new opinions has divided the people there consequently Arms have been taken up by one against the other witnesse France and Germany And though some Countreys have undergone change of Religion without interruption of their Repose yet if we examine the reason of it we shall find the said change to have sprong from some extraordinarie cause rather then from diversitie of opinion amongst the people The separation of England from the Church of Rome was not caused so much by the desire of reforming Religion as from animosities conceived by Hen. 8. against the Court of Rome by reason of its difficult consenting to the dissolution of his marriage with Katharine of Castile And though under Edward his Sonne the Reformation was received by publick consent of the whole Realme it was grounded upon the same cause and no obstinate opinion of new doctrine for under the Reigne of Queen Mary the Kingdom was as easily reconciled to the Church of Rome again as it had been separated before Queen Elizabeth being come to the Crown and her interests swaying her to favour the Reformation she found her people as far disposed to embrace it as they had been forward to reject it in her Sisters time and so the length of her Reigne bringing in a permanence of form she so well establisht it that it hath since firmly continued under her Successors IAMES and CHARLES But forasmuch as this Reformation as has been said was induced more for interest of State and to deliver that Kingdom from the Popes yoke then for love of new Opinions therefore the English did not so ingage themselves to those particular Opinions but that they have since set themselves to reform the abuse of Religion by reducing themselves again to the old practise of their fore-fathers Neverthelesse this Realm is so perversly addicted to maintain its own resolute opinion of excluding the Popes Authority that this hath been the cause why the Catholicks who for the first 12. yeers conformed themselves to the policie introduced into the Church of England have since separated themselves from it and to testifie their uniting to the Pope have refused to frequent the Protestant Churches and thereby have framed One partie in that State England being so divided into Protestants and Catholicks a considerable number of people by reason of the warres in France and the Netherlands retired into it from those Countreys with their Preachers and being seasoned and initiated with the doctrine of Calvin they judged the English Reformation but imperfect and so refusing submission to that form of policie by this meanes they constituted a third partie named Puritanes These Three factions are still at this day in sway That of the Puritanes is the most potent consisting of some Bishops all the Gentry and Comminaltie That of the