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A34439 Motives of conversion to the Catholick faith, as it is professed in the reformed Church of England by Neal Carolan ... Carolan, Neal. 1688 (1688) Wing C605; ESTC R15923 53,424 72

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according_a to_o the_o direction_n give_v i_o by_o st._n augustine_n let_v no_o man_n say_v to_o i_o o_o 10._o nemo_fw-la mihi_fw-la dicat_fw-la o_o quid_fw-la dixit_fw-la donatus_n aut_fw-la parmenianus_n aut_fw-la pontius_n aut_fw-la aliquis_fw-la alius_fw-la illorum_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la cum_fw-la catholicis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la sentiendume_v sicubi_fw-la fortè_fw-la fallantur_fw-la ut_fw-la contra_fw-la canonicas_fw-la scripturas_fw-la aliquid_fw-la sentiant_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la c._n 10._o what_o say_v donatus_n parmenianus_n or_o pontius_n or_o any_o other_o of_o they_o for_o neither_o aught_o we_o to_o agree_v with_o catholic_n bishop_n if_o perhaps_o in_o some_o case_n they_o be_v so_o much_o mistake_v as_o to_o entertain_v opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n thus_o we_o see_v st._n augustin_n prefer_v the_o guidance_n of_o god_n word_n to_o the_o direction_n of_o any_o one_o or_o more_o bishop_n although_o account_v never_o 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the_o pope_n in_o the_o contest_v with_o he_o shall_v be_v so_o ignorant_a of_o their_o own_o privilege_n as_o not_o to_o allege_v their_o infallibility_n in_o the_o point_n which_o will_v have_v put_v a_o speedy_a end_n to_o the_o dispute_n but_o rather_o take_v sanctuary_n in_o a_o pretend_a canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a that_o so_o many_o council_n shall_v be_v call_v from_o distant_a part_n of_o the_o world_n to_o the_o expense_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o hazard_n of_o their_o church_n when_o there_o be_v a_o remedy_n so_o near_o at_o hand_n as_o the_o consult_v of_o the_o infallible_a bishop_n of_o rome_n on_o all_o occasion_n and_o last_o that_o the_o pope_n themselves_o shall_v so_o far_o disbelieve_v it_o as_o to_o contradict_v and_o rescind_v the_o decree_n of_o one_o another_o these_o thing_n seem_v to_o i_o such_o mighty_a prejudices_fw-la against_o this_o infallible_a judge_n that_o i_o know_v not_o how_o to_o answer_v they_o to_o which_o i_o shall_v add_v 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thus_o we_o see_v by_o the_o testimony_n already_o produce_v that_o detain_v the_o cup_n from_o the_o people_n be_v no_o ancient_a practice_n but_o begin_v about_o 460_o year_n ago_o these_o author_n here_o cite_v be_v papist_n be_v a_o sufficient_a proof_n of_o this_o and_o many_o more_o of_o the_o same_o persuasion_n may_v be_v bring_v to_o confirm_v the_o same_o which_o at_o present_a i_o omit_v that_o i_o may_v shun_v tediousness_n but_o the_o thing_n which_o upon_o examination_n i_o find_v myself_o oblige_v principal_o to_o consider_v be_v not_o only_o what_o have_v be_v the_o ancient_a practice_n in_o this_o matter_n but_o also_o what_o the_o reason_n &_o ground_n be_v which_o move_v the_o holy_a father_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n general_o as_o well_o laity_n as_o clergy_n to_o believe_v themselves_o most_o strict_o bind_v to_o receive_v both_o kind_n for_o that_o they_o have_v such_o a_o belief_n the_o authority_n which_o i_o shall_v hereafter_o allege_v will_n convince_o demonstrate_v and_o the_o reason_n and_o ground_n of_o this_o their_o persuasion_n be_v the_o command_n and_o institution_n of_o christ_n he_o have_v order_v in_o the_o gospel_n that_o all_o shall_v drink_v of_o the_o cup_n and_o they_o with_o great_a piety_n and_o reverence_n to_o his_o command_n account_v themselves_o all_o oblige_v to_o do_v what_o he_o enjoin_v they_o this_o certain_o be_v nothing_o but_o what_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v and_o i_o hearty_o wish_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v retain_v the_o like_a veneration_n and_o pious_a regard_n for_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n i_o shall_v then_o have_v find_v no_o cause_n to_o blame_v she_o in_o this_o particular_a now_o because_o i_o have_v here_o in_o effect_n assert_v that_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n concern_v the_o sacrament_n be_v that_o which_o have_v influence_n upon_o the_o christian_n of_o the_o elder_a age_n i_o shall_v in_o the_o first_o place_n produce_v the_o precept_n and_o then_o subjoin_v immediate_o the_o sense_n of_o antiquity_n to_o it_o which_o will_v manifest_v that_o they_o think_v the_o obligation_n arise_v from_o the_o divine_a precept_n do_v extend_v to_o all_o believer_n without_o any_o discrimination_n and_o if_o this_o be_v effectual_o perform_v i_o suppose_v it_o will_v be_v unnecessary_a to_o advertise_v the_o reader_n that_o the_o same_o apprehension_n concern_v the_o necessity_n of_o receive_v in_o both_o kind_n ought_v to_o take_v place_n at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o all_o christian_a society_n the_o consequence_n of_o which_o be_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o notorious_a transgressor_n of_o divine_a law_n in_o this_o respect_n and_o that_o the_o pretend_a indifferency_n of_o give_v the_o cup_n to_o the_o people_n or_o withhold_v of_o it_o be_v a_o false_a supposition_n our_o saviour_n when_o he_o first_o appoint_v this_o sacrament_n deliver_v a_o command_n matt._n 26.27_o that_o all_o shall_v drink_v of_o the_o cup_n and_o after_o his_o resurrection_n he_o reinforce_v all_o the_o precept_n which_o he_o have_v give_v to_o his_o disciple_n and_o consequent_o this_o among_o the_o rest_n matth._n 28.19_o 20._o saying_n go_v teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n teach_v they_o to_o observe_v all_o