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A61544 A discourse concerning the illegality of the late ecclesiastical commission in answer to the vindication and defence of it : wherein the true notion of the legal supremacy is cleared, and an account is given of the nature, original, and mischief of the dispensing power. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1689 (1689) Wing S5581; ESTC R24628 67,006 76

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