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2._o that_o this_o worship_n be_v ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n without_o beginning_n pag._n 142.143_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o the_o place_n of_o exodus_fw-la &_o deut._n with_o no_o probability_n urge_v against_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n by_o protestant_n that_o make_v they_o pag._n 154.155_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o inconvenience_n which_o may_v come_v by_o occasion_n of_o image_n easy_o prevent_v and_o their_o utility_n very_o great_a pag._n 158.159_o the_o second_o and_z third_z point_n ii_o pray_v &_o offer_v oblation_n to_o the_o b._n virgin_n mary_n iii_o worshipping_n &_o invocation_n of_o saint_n &_o angel_n pag._n 172._o §_o 1._o a_o eleven_o demonstration_n that_o the_o ancient_a christian_a church_n do_v ever_o hold_v invocation_n of_o saint_n as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o religion_n pag._n 173.174_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o invocation_n of_o saint_n not_o to_o be_v dislike_v because_o not_o express_v in_o scripture_n pag._n 194._o §_o 3._o knowledge_n of_o prayer_n make_v to_o they_o communicable_a &_o communicate_v unto_o saint_n pag._n 196.197_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o the_o worship_n in_o spirit_n &_o truth_n with_o outward_a prostration_n of_o body_n due_a unto_o saint_n pag._n 206.207_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o pray_v to_o saint_n not_o injurious_a to_o god_n mercy_n but_o rather_o a_o commendation_n thereof_o pag._n 211.212_o etc._n etc._n §_o 6._o invocation_n of_o saint_n not_o a_o injury_n but_o a_o honour_n to_o christ_n the_o only_a mediator_n pag._n 215.216_o etc._n etc._n §_o 7._o how_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o appropriate_v the_o obtain_n of_o grace_n and_o cure_n unto_o saint_n pag._n 219.220_o etc._n etc._n §_o 8._o concern_v oblation_n make_v to_o saint_n p._n 223.224_o etc._n etc._n §_o 9_o the_o roman_a church_n set-forme_n of_o prayer_n without_o cause_n mislike_v pag._n 226.227_o the_o four_o point_n four_o the_o liturgy_n &_o private_a prayer_n for_o the_o ignorant_a in_o a_o unknown_n tongue_n pag._n 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transubstantiation_n belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o real_a presence_n pag._n 266.267_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o transubstantiation_n be_v teach_v by_o the_o father_n pag._n 271.272_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o a_o refutation_n of_o the_o minister_n shift_n to_o elude_v the_o former_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n pag._n 276.277_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o the_o seem_a repugnance_n this_o mystery_n have_v with_o sense_n shall_v inclyne_v christian_n the_o soon_o to_o believe_v it_o pag._n 290.291_o the_o seven_o point_n vii_o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n &_o abet_v of_o it_o by_o concomitancy_n pag._n 305._o §_o 1._o the_o doctrine_n of_o concomitancy_n prove_v pag._n 306.307_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n not_o against_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o christ._n pag._n 311.312_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n not_o against_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n pag._n 315.316_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n not_o against_o christ_n his_o precept_n pag._n 319.320_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o the_o place_n of_o s._n john_n qui_fw-la manducat_fw-la hunc_fw-la panem_fw-la etc._n etc._n explicate_v with_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n pag._n 330.331_o §_o 5._o communion_n under_o one_o kind_n not_o against_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n pag._n 332.333_o etc._n etc._n the_o eight_o point_n viii_o work_n of_o supererogation_n special_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 334._o §_o 1._o the_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n declare_v pag._n ibid._n &_o 335.336_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o the_o minister_n argument_n or_o rather_o inuective_n against_o this_o doctrine_n of_o merit_n answer_v pa._n 347.348_o etc._n etc._n §_o 2._o merit_n of_o work_n of_o supererogation_n p._n 348.349_o etc._n etc._n §_o 3._o the_o father_n teach_v work_n of_o supererogation_n and_o prove_v they_o by_o scripture_n pag._n 352.353_o etc._n etc._n §_o 4._o the_o doctrine_n of_o satisfaction_n pag._n 358.359_o etc._n etc._n §_o 5._o work_n with_o reference_n unto_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 362.363_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o the_o minister_n rail_v argument_n against_o the_o former_a doctrine_n censure_v pag._n 372.373_o etc._n etc._n the_o nine_o point_n ix_o the_o opinion_n of_o depose_v king_n &_o give_v away_o their_o kingdom_n by_o papal_a power_n whether_o direct_o or_o indirect_o pag._n 382._o ¶_o the_o minister_n fond_a cavil_v that_o jesuit_n honour_n not_o the_o king_n as_o soveraygne_n pag._n 383.384_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o fond_a proof_n of_o his_o slander_n that_o jesuit_n hold_v singular_a opinion_n to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o king_n pa._n 385.386_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o fondness_n in_o cavil_v at_o the_o jesuit_n word_n about_o the_o temporal_a sovereignty_n of_o pope_n pag._n 389.390_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o miserable_a apology_n for_o protestant_n p._n 391.392_o etc._n etc._n ¶_o his_o 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likeness_n and_o similitude_n confound_v â—he_n sight_n not_o to_o discern_v the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o in_o scripture_n it_o be_v not_o so_o the_o doctrine_n propose_v therein_o be_v not_o gold_n mingle_v with_o earth_n but_o pure_a gold_n the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v pure_a silver_n refine_a wilth_z fire_n so_o that_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o metal_n that_o require_v workman_n to_o sever_v in_o their_o doctrine_n dross_n from_o gold_n they_o offer_v a_o ready_a and_o refine_a treasure_n to_o they_o that_o seek_v the_o riches_n hide_v in_o they_o thus_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o he_o do_v there_o large_o discourse_n how_o every_o thing_n in_o scripture_n even_o the_o chronology_n and_o proper_a name_n of_o man_n do_v afford_v wholesome_a and_o profitable_a doctrine_n to_o the_o reader_n but_o to_o find_v this_o treasure_n we_o must_v not_o as_o he_o there_o say_v nudam_fw-la tantùm_fw-la scripturam_fw-la aspicere_fw-la sed_fw-la insistere_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la study_v 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