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Truth tryumphing in a suffering time over deceit and falsehood, or, William Prynn's book of Quakers unmasked clearly detected and the innocency of the people vindicated from the grosse abuses and injuries done them by him ... / by G.W.
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Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.
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against us and saith Thaâ— noâ—hing in his judgment more clearly detects the Popish Fryers Priests and Iesuits to be the principle Inventors Erectors of Acters Rulers and Speakers amongst our Quakers and other new Sects Answer Here again without any ground or reason he hath slandered us and hath shewed himself ignorant of the Scriptures and the power of God who regards such as are poor and of a contrite spirit and trembles at his â—ord Isa. 66.2 Which we are real witnesses of and how many of the Prophets and holy men of God did quake and tremble the Scriptures do evidently testifie And in page 20.21 One of W. P. His main Arguments against the Quakers to prove that the Jesuits Priests and Franciscan Fryers have a principal hand in erecting and promoting them is that Ignatius Loyâ—lâ—o the Father of Jesuits and first Founder general of their Order as he saith Pâ—eâ—ended a Divine call from God and cast off his costly Apâ—arel which he gave to the pâ—or Cloaâ—hed himsâ—lf in couâ—se sackcloth wandred up and down professing the study of poverty pennance mortification and coâ—tempt of the world leading a most Ausâ—ere life for a time mostly eating little else but course bread and drinking nothing but cold water and pâ—eaching often Gratis in the open Streets and without any Ordination or License at all from the Bishops or Clergy exhorâ—ing them to Repentance c. And is not this the very practice of our Quakers and Shakers now who exactly imitate him herein he saith Answer What of all this what ever Ignâ—tâ—us was in himself we â—eed not dispute that But were these things evil in themselves that he professed as Mortification Contempt of the world Preâ—ching Graâ—is in the open Streets Exhorting to Repentance c. If they were not evil but Lawful in themselves what does it prove against the Quakers that they are Jesuits or Deceivers No sure for then it will reflect upon all that professe and â—old the truth in Righteousnesse and so it proves as much against all the Servants of God as us because some hath professed and withheld the truth in unrighteousnesse And then all Christendome that professe Christ are Papists because the Pope and Jesuits professe him is this William Pâ—ynns Logick he might have spared his Labour of such silly work as this Much more might be 〈…〉 sheâ—â—iâ— Absurdities herein but let the Judicious judge oâ— his Maâ—ter And what a silly busiâ—esse is it for â—im to â—ell us of Ignaâ—â—â—â— hiâ— Preâ—ching oâ—â—en Gratis in the open Sâ—reeâ—s wiâ—hout Ordiâ—â—tion from the â—ishops for needed he Ordination from theâ— to Preach Gratis No sure for it is those Priests that seek fat Benefits and Livingâ— Tithes and filthy Lucre for their Preaching thâ—t must have Ordiâ—ation from â—he Bishops but did not this man â—â—â—merly speak and write agaiâ—st Bâ—shops And in his 8th page accuseth our Books of Invectives against their Minisâ—ers Church Presbyterian Government c But it seems as if he were not aware of this it being wâ—it when that Government was up or how it might reflect upon his present interest with the times which though it be now come forth with his Additions as Frothy Vain and Foolish as his first part of his Book but considering how much talk we have heard of this our Opposer and of his former suffering with Burâ—on and Bastick and having his Ears cut he might have shewed more tendernesse to us and such as are under suffering then he hath done and not so have slandered and reviled us But this we have seen that such as play the Hypocrites in turning with the Times and seeking to gratifie them in power upon every turn by persecuting the Innocent they grow the most hardned and benummed in their Consciences and the fitter to do Iudas his work And in page 15.16 William Pâ—ynne tells the Magistrates of suppressing all Heresies and Errours By Law and penalties and of the Civâ—l Magistrates Coerâ—ive power and Iurisdiction in Matters of Religion and bids them search after restrain secure and persâ—cute all romish Foxes Wolveâ— c. Aâ—cording to our Laws and Statutes in force against them c. And be as vigilant to secure Gods and our Churches cause and interest c. Answer But he intended this against us called Quakers and we do not own him to be any Competent witnesse or Judge against us â—hough he hath assumed both neither is his Evidence true but altogether false against us and he a slanderer and forger of meer Falsehoods and hath also shewed a very malicious and inveâ—erate spirit in going about to cause men to be persecuted or compelâ—ed by penal Laws for matter of Conscience or Judgement for that way of Compulsion is neither the way to suppresse Errours or Heresies nor to convince the Judgments either of such as are Papists or others but the way to make them Hypocrites like himself And it s more meet to endeavour to convince anâ— reclaim Jesuits and such as be in Errour to bring them to Repentance then to destroy them for that 's the way to bring them sooner to Hell if they be destroyed and perish in their Errour and how is their Churches cause secured by this way of Compulsion or prosecution of penal Laws against men that diâ—sent in matters of Conscience or Worship though such as are criminâ—l Offenders as Plotters and Conspirators the â—ivil Law reaches when he confesseth the English Church is distracted page 21. And that Ignatius his Disciples or the Jesuits have made most Christian Kingdoms Churches especially our own of late years saith he both to quake and tremble and shake them in pieces as in his 22. pag. Now mark here also what a sad Church this is which he would have men forced to a Church that 's made by those he himself counts deceivers both to quake and tremble this is he that hath so much Reviled for quaking and trembling as being derived from Rome and the Popish Priests and Jesuits because thereof and such â—hurches as are shaken in pieces in thiâ— manner are not built upon the Rock nor such as against which the Gates of Hell cannot prevail And such Churches as these that cannot stand without carnal force aâ—d Compulsion we have no cause to Conform to for it appears plainly that their Weapons and Arms and Defence are noâ— of God but of man not Spiritual as the Saints and true Churches were but Carnal And how is it in the Magistrates Coercive power to suppresse Errours and Heresies and to secure the Churches cause when they do not pretend to Infallibility of judgment in spiritual matters And was there not great persecution under the Presbyterian Government how did that secure their Church And did not we greatly suffer by them And how hath our opposer contradicted himself in this matter where he in the same 16. p. gives 4 Cautions recorded in the Gospel as he saith as the best preservatives against seducers quoting Rom. 16.17 â—8 2 â—â—m 3.13 14.