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A09106 A quiet and sober reckoning vvith M. Thomas Morton somewhat set in choler by his aduersary P.R. concerning certaine imputations of wilfull falsities obiected to the said T.M. in a treatise of P.R. intituled Of mitigation, some part wherof he hath lately attempted to answere in a large preamble to a more ample reioynder promised by him. But heere in the meane space the said imputations are iustified, and confirmed, & with much increase of new vntruthes on his part returned vpon him againe: so as finally the reconing being made, the verdict of the Angell, interpreted by Daniel, is verified of him. There is also adioyned a peece of a reckoning with Syr Edward Cooke, now L. Chief Iustice of the Co[m]mon Pleas, about a nihil dicit, & some other points vttered by him in two late preambles, to his sixt and seauenth partes of Reports. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1609 (1609) STC 19412; ESTC S114160 496,646 773

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be_v make_v by_o apprehension_n of_o faith_n only_o whereby_o he_o contradict_v all_o that_o he_o say_v before_o of_o real_a and_o substantial_a conjunction_n 33.34_o and_o in_o the_o six_o place_n he_o confirm_v more_o the_o same_o by_o say_v that_o wi●ked_v man_n receive_v not_o the_o body_n at_o all_o quia_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la solo_fw-la ore_fw-la fidei_fw-la accipitur_fw-la 3._o for_o that_o the_o body_n o●_n christ_n be_v only_o receive_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o faith_n and_o in_o the●_n and_o last_o place_n he_o conclude_v that_o this_o sacrament_n do_v not_o give_v the_o body_n o●_n christ_n or_o faith_n unto_o any_o that_o have_v it_o not_o already_o but_o only_o do_v testify_v and_o confirm_v that_o now_o it_o be_v there_o and_o so_o it_o be_v but_o as_o a_o sign_n or_o seal_n to_o use_v his_o word_n of_o that_o which_o be_v th●re_o already_o and_o this_o be_v the_o variety_n of_o calvin_n opinion_n it_o prove_v no_o contradiction_n in_o bel●armine_n but_o in_o calvin_n himself_o and_o so_o many_o corruption_n have_v here_o be_v prove_v against_o m._n morton_n do_v convince_v that_o in_o he_o which_o he_o will_v prove_v in_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n but_o can_v as_o how_o see_v and_o yet_o ●e_n conclude_v so_o confident_o as_o before_o you_o have_v hear_v say_v 66._o all_o these_o contradiction_n do_v certain_o evince_v ●hat_n he_o the_o cardinal_n have_v by_o public_a imputation_n slander_v those_o who_o in_o his_o conscience_n he_o do_v acquit_v and_o shall_v we_o ●hinke_v conclusion_n that_o his_o conscience_n can_v be_v sincere_a in_o allege_v other_o ●●ns_n testimony_n and_o witness_n who_o be_v sound_a thus_o persidious_o ●●iust_a in_o exhibit_v his_o own_o thus_o he_o and_o i_o remit_v i_o to_o ●he_n reader_n whether_o he_o have_v see_v hitherto_o any_o one_o point_n of_o perfidious_a deal_n prove_v against_o the_o cardinal_n among_o so_o many_o as_o have_v appear_v on_o the_o part_n of_o m._n morton_n but_o yet_o now_o he_o will_v go_v forward_o as_o he_o say_v to_o another_o subject_n to_o wit_n to_o show_v some_o example_n o●_n falsification_n out_o of_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o allegation_n of_o other_o man_n testimony_n let_v we_o see_v whether_o he_o perform_v any_o thing_n more_o than_o in_o the_o rest_n he_o have_v do_v 103._o but_o first_o before_o we_o enter_v into_o this_o other_o examen_fw-la there_o occur_v unto_o i_o a_o consideration_n worthy_a to_o be_v ponder_v by_o the_o reader_n which_o be_v that_o all_o these_o six_o objection_n make_v against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n for_o impute_v old_a heresye_n to_o protestant_n be_v take_v out_o o●_n on_o only_a chapter_n of_o he_o which_o be_v the_o 9_o of_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o the_o no●●s_n of_o the_o true_a church_n in_o which_o 9_o chapter_n as_o before_o you_o have_v hear_v he_o charge_v the_o protestant_n of_o our_o time_n with_o different_a heresye_n of_o tw●nty_o several_a condemn_a old_a heresiarche_n or_o chief_a heretic_n and_o thereof_o 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about_o to_o refute_v 〈◊〉_d tradition_n whence_o be_v this_o tradition_n it_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o lord_n authority_n or_o fr●m_v the_o precept_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o god_n will'th_v that_o we_o ●ho●d_v do_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v from_o whence_o protestant_n conclude_v that_o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o sufficiency_n for_o our_o direction_n in_o all_o question_n of_o faith_n bellarmine_n answer_v 23●_n that_o cyprian_n speak_v this_o when_o he_o think_v to_o defend_v a_o error_n and_o therefore_o i●_n be_v no_o marvel_n i●_n he_o err_v in_o so_o reason_v for_o the_o which_o cause_n s._n augustine_n say_v he_o do_v worthy_o re●ute_v he_o the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o error_n cyprian_n hold_v but_o whether_o his_o manner_n of_o reason_v from_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n be_v erroneous_a or_o no._n bellarmine_n pretend_v that_o s._n augustine_n do_v worthy_o reprove_v he_o but_o whosoever_o shall_v consult_v with_o s._n augustine_n in_o the_o 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manifest_a falsehood_n both_o wit_n and_o wilful_a let_v we_o examine_v then_o this_o point_n more_o particular_o rebaptise_v 106._o and_o first_o i_o do_v note_n that_o he_o propose_v this_o objection_n very_o obscure_o &_o that_o for_o the_o cause_n which_o will_v present_o be_v se●ne_v for_o he_o do_v not_o explicate_v upon_o what_o occasion_n these_o word_n of_o s._n cyprian_n be_v utter_v by_o he_o nor_o allege_v by_o protestant_n as_o a_o objection_n against_o unwritten_a tradition_n wherefore_o the_o reader_n must_v know_v that_o the_o holy_a man_n s._n cyp●ian_n have_v conceive_v a_o infinite_a aversion_n from_o heretic_n and_o heresy_n of_o his_o time_n do_v upon_o indiscreet_a zeal_n ●all_n into_o this_o error_n that_o as_o their_o faith_n be_v not_o good●●o_o neither_o their_o baptism_n and_o consequent_o that_o ●uch_o as_o leave_v they_o and_o be_v convert_v to_o the_o catholic_a religion_n shall_v be_v baptize_v again_o after_o the_o catholic_a manner_n and_o have_v find_v some_o other_o bishop_n also_o of_o africa_n upon_o the_o same_o ground_n to_o join_v with_o he_o in_o the_o same_o opinion_n for_o that_o it_o seem_v to_o they_o to_o be_v most_o conform_a to_o scripture_n that_o detest_v every_o where_o heretic_n and_o heresy_n he_o write_v thereof_o unto_o stephen_n bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o stand_v upon_o the_o contrary_a custom_n always_o use_v in_o the_o church_n not_o to_o rebaptize_v such_o as_o be_v convert_v from_o heresy_n mislike_v s._n cyprian_n opinion_n and_o write_v unto_o he_o against_o the_o same_o wherewith_o the_o good_a man_n be_v somewhat_o exasperate_v write_v a_o letter_n unto_o pompeius_n bishope_n of_o sabrata_n in_o africa_n cite_v here_o by_o m._n morton_n wherein_o among_o other_o sharp_a speech_n he_o have_v this_o interrogation_n here_o set_v down_o vnde_fw-la est_fw-la ista_fw-la traditio_fw-la &_o c_o from_o whence_o be_v this_o tradition_n of_o not_o rebaptise_v heretic_n be_v it_o derive_v from_o our_o lord_n authority_n etc._n etc._n upon_o which_o form_n of_o argue_v in_o s._n cyprian_n m._n morton_n say_v that_o protestant_n do_v lawful_o argue_v in_o like_a manner_n this_o or_o that_o tradition_n be_v not_o in_o the_o scripture_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v 107._o but_o say_v cardinal_n bellarmine_n this_o be_v no_o good_a form_n of_o argue_v in_o s._n cyprian_n no._n nor_o ever_o use_v by_o he_o but_o in_o this_o necessity_n for_o defend_v his_o error_n as_o protestant_n also_o be_v drive_v to_o use_v the_o same_o for_o defence_n of_o they_o and_o this_o he_o prove_v by_o two_o way_n first_o for_o that_o s._n augustine_n do_v of_o purpose_n out_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o his_o day_n refute_v that_o inference_n and_o form_n of_o argument_n and_o second_o for_o that_o s._n cyprian_n himself_o in_o other_o place_n where_o he_o be_v not_o press_v with_o this_o necessity_n do_v yield_v and_o allow_v the_o authority_n of_o unwritten_a 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