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A39364 Polemica Christiana, or, An earnest contending for the faith which was once deliver'd unto the saints in I. a letter to the author of the Dialogue, &c., II. a vindication of the doctrine of Mr. Richard Hooker, against the mis-representation of an anti-trinitarion, in a pamphlet entitled, Considerations on the explications of the doctrine of the trinity, III. reflections upon some passages in a book entitled, The history of religion, IV. a vindication of Vincentius Lirinensis, from the unjust reproach cast on him, by an anonymous writer, in a book entitled, Animadversions on Mr. Hill's book / by Edmund Elys ... Elys, Edmund, ca. 1634-ca. 1707. 1696 (1696) Wing E685; ESTC R41121 13,781 30

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hath his Substance or Essence of or from the Father he would seem to Obviate this Answer in these words They will say Mr. Hooker doth not affirm that the self-same Substance is Begotten and Unbegotten this indeed were a slat Contradiction But he saith That as 't is in the Father 't is Unbegotten as in the Son 't is Begotten Answ This is a most notorious Falshood Mr. Hooker does not assert That the Essence as in the Son is Begotten but that the Person of the Son is Begotten in that he hath his Essence of or from the Father Let us now consider what a Fast Friend this Disputer is to the Phanaticks i. e. The Despisers of the Liturgy of the Church of England which Mr. Hooker has so judiciously and irrefragably Defended What shall we do here says He shall we say Reverend Hooker has mistaken and mis-led his Sons who are all the Church of England into an Error concerning the Trinity Hath he ascrib'd to the Divine Essence Properties which he calleth Persons that are not in it To give up Hooker is to dishonour the Church of England it self to part with Father Hooker is to endangerthe very Surplice and even the Cross in Baptism nay that Book of Books the Common-Prayer If Mr. Hooker could Err about the Trinity what will the Phanaticks and Trimmers say Will not they be apt to pretend too He may have Erred in his profound Dissertations and Discourses for the Rites and Discipline of the Church Now I appeal to any Person of common Ingenuity in the whole World to Judge whether I had not Just Cause to Publish that Paper Entitled An earnest Call to those Non-conformists who really Believe the Doctrine of the Holy Blessed and Glorious Trinity To come into the Communion of the Church of England That by their Constant Regular Confession of the Christian Faith they may Confound the Devices of those Gain-sayers whom by their Separation they have so much Encourag'd I cannot imagine how 't is possible that any Nonconformist that has the least Spark of Grace that has in any measure the true Love of the Holy JESVS in his Heart should not be Inclin'd to the Communion of the Church of England upon the reading of these words of the most Judicious and Heavenly-minded Mr. R. Hooker in the Fifth Book of Ecclesiastical Polity The very Creed of Athanasius and that sacred Hymn of Glory the Gloria Patri than which nothing doth sound more Heavenly in the Ears of Faithful Men are now reckoned as superfluities which we must in any case pare away lest we cloy God with too much Service Is there in that Confession of Faith any thing which doth not at all times edify and instruct the attentive Reader Or is our Faith in the Blessed Trinity a matter needless to be so oftentimes mention'd and open'd in the principal Part of that Duty which we owe to God our Publick Prayer Hath the Church of Christ from the first beginning by a secret universal instinct of God's good Spirit always tied it self to end neither Sermon nor almost any Speech which hath concern'd matters of God without some special words of Honour and Glory to that Trinity which we all adore and is the like Conclusion of Psalms become now at the length an Eye-sore or a Gauling to their Ears that hear it Against which Poison Arianism if we think that the Church at this Day needeth not those ancient Preservatives which Ages before us were so glad to use we deceive our selves greatly The Weeds of Heresy being grown to such Ripeness as that was do even in the cutting down scatter oftentimes those Seeds which for a while lay unseen and buried in the Earth but afterwards freshly spring up again no less Pervicacious than at the first I shall not at this time recite any more of the words of this most Pious and Learned Man but only these with which I find my own Heart most Zealously affected Wisdom to the End she might save many built her House of that Nature which is common unto all she made not this or that Man her Habitation but dwelt in Vs The Good Lord give Grace to Thee and Me Dear Reader to Hold the Mystery of this Faith in a Pure Conscience Amen Reflections UPON Some Passages in a Book ENTITLED The History of RELIGION IT is to me most Evident and unquestionable that this Gentleman's Design is this in the Crowd of his Invectives against what he calls Priest-Craft of Heathens and Papists closely and subtlely to Convey into the mind of the Reader a Contempt of the Authority of the Church of England in Enjoyning all those that will be of her Communion to make Profession of Believing the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity exprest in those Forms of sound words which we commonly call the Creed of St. Athanasius and the Nicene Creed He tells us plainly p. 85. that The Council of NICE it self shew'd a Spirit of Contention rather than of Peace and Charity Truly this Man shews himself to be a Person of very ill Quality in using such vile Artifices to Delude the Reader as to endeavour to make him Conceit that St. Hilary and St. Gregory Nazianzen did not approve that most Orthodox Council Having thus Revil'd those most Orthodox Fathers of the Council of NICE affirming that they were led by a Spirit of Contention Hilary says he Bishop of Poictiers describes this saying we Decree every Year of the Lord a New Creed concerning God nay every Change of the Moon our Faith is alter'd c. Answ 'T is evident to every Man that knows any thing of Ecclesiastical History that St. Hilary speaks against those Creeds that were made in Opposition to the Council of NICE and that he would not allow the Arians to have the Name of Christians CHRISTIANUS sum says he non ARIANUS Lib. ad Constantinum Augustum Those other words of his which I shall here recite will most certainly put this Gentleman to a Blush if it be possible for him to Blush at any thing Deus Alius quam qui est Ex Deo Nullus est Hoc fidei nostrae secundum Evangelicam Apostolicam Doctrinam Principale Dominum Nostrum Jesum Christum Jesum Christum Deum Dei Filium a Patre nec Honoris Confessione nec Virtutis Potestate nec Substantiae Diversitate nec Intervallo Temporis separari Gregory Nazianzen says this Gentleman was so full of Detestation at these Quarrels of Christians that at last he resolv'd never more to come into an Assembly of Bishops because saith he I have never seen a good and happy End of any Council Answ Whatever St. Gregory Nazianzen said of any other Councils most certainly no Man ever had a greater Esteem of the Orthodoxy of the Council of NICE than this Blessed man abundantly declares in his Writings particularly in his most admirable Oration In Laudem Magni Athanasii Our Historian is not asham'd to own as great a Respect for
the Arians as for the Christians calling the former One Part of the Christian Church P. 86 It was still says he One Part of the Christian Church that vex'd the other P. 115 He hath these words From the Two great Springs Athanasius and Arius the Church over-flow'd with Divisions c. Answ Nothing can be more False and more impudently Slanderous than to say that Athanasius was the Spring or Cause of those Divisions for he stedfastly adher'd to the FAITH which was once deliver'd unto the Saints This Gentleman tells us p. 63. That a Man must be his own Expositor Minister Bishop and Council Answ This is Contrary to the common Sense of all sincere Christians who Abhor all Self-conceit or what arises from their own Minds as dis-united from the Minds of other Christians They Know and are Assur'd that no man Knows any thing as he ought to Know but as he is In the Communion of Saints Their principal way of Attaining to more Knowledge of what they ought to Do is the Doing of what they Know already And they know they ought to shew all Meekness to all Men and that they ought to behave themselves Lowly and Reverently towards any Council Professing to suit their Determinations to the Holy Scriptures Any man that will but Peruse the First Chapter of the Learned Animadversions upon Dr. Sherlock's Book will clearly perceive the Folly and Madness of this Man 's Cavilling about Mystery Such as are Assertors of Mystery says he p. 59. choose rather to search into some Dark Places of St. John's Gospel or St. Paul's Epistles to fetch out from thence a Wonderful Divinity than to attend to the general the plain and easily intelligible Current of the Gospels and Epistles To fetch from thence a Wonderful Divinity what wou'd the man be at Would he have a Divinity that is not Wonderful or Incomprehensible We have seen what mad work has been made by his Fellow-Champions against Mystery of what he calls The general the plain and easily intelligible Current of the Gospels and Epistles upon Conceit that all those Places of Scripture where our Blessed Saviour is spoken of as Man are so many Proofs that he is not God Let us now consider this Historian's Attempt to make People to have but light Thoughts of the Doctrine of the Trinity upon Account of the Difference betwixt Dr. Sherlock and the Excellent Animadverter History of Religion pag. 116. We have even at this present an unlucky Instance of the strange Differences among Learned men Dr. Sherlock writes a Book in Answer to certain Brief Notes on the Creed of Athanasius He says his Undertaking is to vindicate the Athanasian Creed and the Doctrine of a Trinity in Unity which he says he has now made as clear and easy as the Notion of One God But another and a very Learned Person too in his Animadversions upon that Book of Dr. Sherlock calls the Explication of the Trinity advanc'd in Dr. Sherlock's Book a silly a contradictory and an Heretical Notion wholly of his own Invention and a Stab to the Heart of the Doctrine of the Church of England He charges another Book of Dr. Sherlock's being a Discourse of the Knowledge of Christ with vile and scandalous Reflections upon God's Justice and says moreover that it may deserve to pass for a Blasphemous Libel Pag. 117. What Measures or Opinions then can the Unlearned take from their disputing Leaders Guides that cannot forbear to impose Faith in dark and unnecessary Points and yet rate their Imaginations at the Value of Holy Scripture even while they dis-agree among themselves in the very Points which they would Enjoin others to Believe I shall say nothing here of Dr. Sherlock's Opinion of the Doctrine of the Trinity having said enough of it elsewhere But I must Aver to all the World that this Person of Quality deals most Ingentilely and Dis-ingenuously with the Learned Animadverter in Endeavouring to Perswade the Reader to Conceit that this Worthy Person wou'd Enjoin him to Believe any thing concerning the Holy Trinity but what every Man that Professeth himself to be a Member of the Church of England if he do not swerve from all the Principles of common Honesty does really Believe The Animadverter does not desire that any man should Assent to what he says against Dr. Sherlock in the Vindication of the Catholick Faith any farther than as he may be Convinc'd by the Force of his Arguments Here I think it my Duty to wipe off one of the foulest Aspersions that have been cast upon the Animadverter viz. That he is the First Man amongst all the Sons of the Church of England that ever shewed such a Dislike to Dr. Sherlock's Book Entitled A Discourse of the Knowledge of Jesus Christ as if he did it meerly out of Spight having no rational Inducement thereunto I am certain that about Eight Years since there was sent to Dr. Sherlock from a Divine of the Church of England whom the worst of his Enemies will acknowledge to be far enough from any Priest-Craft a large Letter containing a Refutation of several of the gross and most detestable Errors in that Book Some Part of that Letter I shall here recite Abraham's Faith was not a Faith in Christ say You But the holy Apostle says expresly that The Gospel was preached unto Abraham Now if Abraham Believ'd the Gospel preached unto him did he not Believe in Christ The words of our Saviour which you recite do most evidently Prove that Abraham's Faith was Faith in Christ Joh. 8. 56. Your Father Abraham rejoiced to see my Day c. St. Chrysostome was not of your Mind his words on this Text are these 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The same Truth is Attested by St. Ambrose Hunc Vidit Abraham in isto Sacrificio Hujus Passionem Aspexit Et ideo ipse Dominus ait de eo Abraham Diem meum Vidit Gavisus est Let us now return to our Historian 'T is very observable says he p. 99. that For real Heresies of the Flesh there are no Inquisitions set up nor any particular Persecutions not for Drunkenness or Whoredom or other Vices They increase as much by Temptation and Example as those sort of Vices can and yet were never made Objects of the pretended pious Zeal or of any Persecution I cannot give a softer Term to this than that of a Notorious LYE For can any English Man that knows any thing of the Proceedings of our Ecclesiastical Courts be ignorant of this That at the Bishop's Visitation all Parsons Vicars and Curates at the Arch-Deacon's Visitation the Church-Wardens are Bound to Present Drunkards common Swearers Fornicators Adulterers c. The most Reverend Arch-Bishop LAUD never shew'd himself more Zealous in any thing than in the Prosecution of a Great LADY for Living in Adultery I shall here relate the whole Story as I find it in Cyprianus Anglicus p. 266. The Lady Purbeck Wife of Sir John Villers Viscount Purbeck the