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A01219 An oration against the vnlawfull insurrections of the protestantes of our time, vnder pretence to refourme religion Made and pronounced in Latin, in the Schole of Artes at Louaine, the .xiij. of December. Anno. 1565. By Peter Frarin of Andwerp, M. of Arte, and Bacheler of both lawes. And now translated [by John Fowler] into English, with the aduise of the author.; Oratio Petri Frarini quod male reformandae religionis nomine arma sumpserunt sectarii nostri temporis habita. English Frarinus, Petrus.; Fowler, John, 1537-1579. 1566 (1566) STC 11333; ESTC S112684 57,035 182

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traiterous against God man for y t without any iust occasiō ye haue so long so cruelly troubled the whole estate of Christendō But you say y ● faith was wel nigh quite quēched out of the Church It is a wonderous matter ye speake of Christ praied for S. Peter that his Faith shuld neuer faile And wil ye say he praid in vaine lost his labor and could not obtain his prayer that were iniury and reproche to the sonne of God The holye Ghost came downe from heauen into the Church here militant on earth to teache her al truth Hath he not taught her you blaspheme the holy Ghost so to say But goe to let it be graunted that as you imagine all maner of fonde absurd thinges so you thought in this poynte with no lesse madnesse that the Christian Faith was lost or at least that Christian Religion being nigh outworne and spēt before your happy daies needed to be restored by such excellent graue godly and wise men as you were replenished with all maner of knowledge vertue and heauenly giftes of the sprite To be short your purpose was ye say to refourme the Christian Faith Howe then When you could not therin preuail nor perswade the people that was somewhat stubburn and stiffenecked perhaps as you iudged did you thinke it the best way by and by with gonneshot and bytels to beat and driue the faith into their heades Who euer being in his right wit did thinke that any thing might be perswaded by force Men vse to perswade the minde and not the bodye but it is moste certaine that the minde as it maye be bent led and induced by reason so by stripes blowes buffets it can neuer be compelled and constrained But it was a carnal Religion y t these flesshly Gospellers brought and taught therefore they dyd what they could to driue it into mens braynes with strokes and to prick it into mens flessh with swordes dags and daggers It may be ye were muche offended w t the vitiouse maners and ill liuing of men now a dayes In good faith and so were we there is no honest Catholike man that euer was delighted therwith But yet when we saw that it was very hard fully to cleanse purge anie one familie or how shold frō all maner of synnes sores we thought it a matter of far greater difficultie importance to amend the faultes heale y e wondes of al the whole corps of Christēdom together therfore of necessity be cause we could not remedie y t desperat case by reason of the multitude we bore w t y t cōmon and vulgare Deceases and vices of al sortes of men the cure wherof was more past hope and did take them patientlye but yet surely not without great greif and sorow to see them open preaching cōtinuallie against them But you sowr Checkmasters most bitter Controllers of maners went about lyke Iudges sent from heauen or Physitions dropte owt of the skyes to cōdēne and cut of with sword burn with fire and gunpowder all at a pushe y e faultes and folies of the whole world together Yf ye had bene officers hauing Commissiō and authoritie so to doe yet your Iudgement and processe could not be excused herein from exceding crueltie and raishnes but where it appeareth ye were but flingbraynes light Iackstrawes hauing no authoritie at al y t toke vppō you without any examinatiō without processe of law without any sentence to condemne al Christendome to rack it to punish it and with most greuouse and painefull tormentes to teare and turne vpsyde down y e whole world what shall I call this but a bloudy Butcherie a haynous wickednes a dyuelish dealing an impietie neuer to be pardoned O but say you the Catholikes did lyue vitiously the Cleargie were out of order the Princes and Rulers ruled not as they should yea there were manie ceremonies in y e Churche y t we could not brook I assure you these be greuous weighty Inditementes Who laid them in I pray you Who but you the worst men naughtiest liuers y ● euer trode on earth What blames the theefe Verres his mate Or cutthrote falles with Miles at bate The third Elias him self did playnlye confesse that the manners of men were far more vitious vnder his Gospel then euer they wer before vnder y e Popedome He hath said it It is not lawful to gainsay y e same But if any of y e disciples dare deny that which this theyr great master Pythagoras sayde the beddes are yet warme wherin these gospellers lay with other mennes wiues the Townes and Cities smoke yet of the fire wherewith they burned houses the earth is moiste at this houre with the bloude of manye good subiectes whome they haue slaine theyr Purses do swel and are yet at this present puft vp with the goods they gathered and gaines they got by roberies Simonye and Extortion Shew forthe thy brasen face Martin Luther and saye if thou dare that thou art an honester and better man then the vertuous and graue Fathers and Prelates of the Catholike Churche I wyll out of hād bring in against thee the publike Edict that the most noble Charles the fift our late foueraigne Emperour of happy memory made againste thee at Wormes the witnesse of the greate and mightye Henry the eight King of England whose sacred Royall crowne be it spoken here with leaue thou like a sluttish slaue vauntest thou wouldst anoynt with durt and donge of thy dronken body The decree of the most renoumed Sigismund king of Pole and by these euidences I wil by and by conuince thee proue that thou art worthy to be caste of Rebellion Sedition Sacrilege Impiety Heresy Finally of all manner of wicked vices and hainous offences that can raigne in a man What canst thou lay against these witnesses who were at that time the noblest the best the worthiest of credite of all that liued in our daies Theese worthy Princes Proclamations and Publike Edictes sette oute againste thy Wickednesse and Naughtye behauioure are euery where in euery mans hande published in print to the vewe and sight of the whole world Come vp againe hither frō hell if thou canst Ihon Caluine tel truth seing al y e world knoweth y t thou diddest kepe y e space of fiue yeares together a Nunne who was a Renegate out of y e Nūnerie called Veilmur y t thou diddest paye two crownes a moneth for her borde in the towne out of y t poore mens boxe of Geneua vppon condition she should come euery day to make thy bedde and learne her lesson out of thy Gospell practize how to beare y e burden of wedlocke patiently and at last when she was great w t childe by thee and had now caried abowt y e burden of her bealie three or fower monethes that thou didst bestow vppon an Apostate Chanon dwelling at Losanna thereby
be suffred to haue a Mistresse Candida for a vessell of easement as ye call it was that a sufficient wrong and iuste quarell for you to take Pepper in the nose and sworde in the hande and by and by bidde Battaile Were ye bound to stand so stoutly to Ladie Lecherie Dame Venus to maintain the liberties of her Kingdome and Gospel so streightly that if euery one of you in euery place were not permitted freely and without checke to cherishe his carkasse w t a Whore ye shoulde for reuenge of her quarell trouble the Gospell of Christe diuide with Scismes the Churche of God make suche a seedition suche a sturre suche an vprore in all Christendome as neuer any Barbarous Rude Sauage or Wild people made the like Some of your side suffred for y e Words sake for so ye cal y ● cursed gospel of yours Yea and well worthy to I assure you For they neuer ceased to bark at Prelats Princes to worke al meanes to wring the sword out of theyr handes to trouble and disorder y e state of common weales Finally they neuer had theyr ful of theyr sundrie wicked practises against God of theyr raishe madnesse and furiouse blasphemies against the blessed Sacrament of the Altar Yea but you saie it was the very true worde of God they preached they were the men of God the Martyrs of Iesus Christ the Apostels of Christendome These be high Titles Will they be any higher I wil speake for them to set thē vp one steppe more They were those that labored to clyme vp to the North to place theyr seates aboue y e cloudes of the heauens to be like Lucifer ▪ Checkmates with God himself And what of al this Was it meete that because they could not freely and frankely preache the worde therefore by and by they should lay hand on the sword The Apostles of Iesus Christe were wōt to suffer not to geue blowes to take not to doe iniury S. Paule was cōtent rather to leese his head and paciently to suffer the sword then to strike or cause any to reuenge his quarell S. Peter was wrongfully crucified and yet procured no man to be troubled for it Why do not the new Apostles folow the olde Apostles example O Master Ministers it is a very hard Word y t ye bring vs. for ye speake gōnestones your Gospel is to hot ye preache fire and powder your Religion is to cruell it breedeth bloud and murder Iesus Christ was contented to ride on an Asse the Apostles thought it no skorne to goe barefoote and we embrace gladlye with reuerence their patience humilitie vertue and mild manner in planting the Gospel But you ride to preach on barbd horses put on the corselet not of faith but of iron and steele to set forward your strainge Religion Al the world may see that as the maner and order of your procedinges is contrary to Christ so all the stuffe ye vtter is likewise contrary to his heauenly Doctrine What Could ye not suffer Martyrdome gladly for the gospel No forsoth ye chose rather to slay thē to be slaine no maruell For ye loked for none other commoditie by your Gospel but a losenesse and liberty to liue at your pleasure And therfore such Gospellers for such a Gospel were very loth to leese their liues The theefe wil neuer gladly suffer deathe and spend his life in defense of theft for he purposeth to haue none other frute and profite by theft but his sweete life in this world maintained at pleasure He that loseth his life sayeth Christ preserueth it into life euerlasting but you were loth to lose yours for that ye had no hope to haue any euerlasting life for it Ye held it better to be Martyr-makers thē Martyrs to do then to suffer iniurie How be it to say the truthe ye suffred no iniury whē ye suffred death for heresy for ye deserued no lesse But when ye murdred other ye did great iniury whether they deserued to die or no For that ye had no authoritye so to do Hold stil your hands a little while lay downe your Swordes and priuye Daggers let your fury coole and harken to reason and ye shall plainly perceiue that there is great oddes betwene the order and due Ministration of Iustice that the Emperoure and Christen Princes vsed to execute againste your wicked transgressions and your impudent boldnesse Traiterous Rebellion and Bloudy Cruelty against Christendome By the authority of God allmighty they beare the sword and haue power to punishe the wicked but as for you who made you I pray you rulers and Iudges in Israel O vnhappy dayes O wicked manners of our daies maye we crye at this time with more iust occasion then in his age Marcus Cicero did Bondslaues refuse to beare the yoke vnder their Maisters Subiectes disdaine to obey the Commaundementes and Rule of their Magistrates Theues would be Lordes and raigne ouer all Who be robbers if you be Refourmers Yea who then shall be called Spoilers Ennemies Traitors Tyrannes and Cruell Bouchers if you be Giltlesse and Innocentes To conclude in fewe wordes what reasonable cause doe ye alleage for your selues why ye made warres so wicked and so abhominable why ye prepared fire and fagot to burne the whole world was it because ye were sometimes burned for heresie Truly ye suffred not so muche nor so often as ye deserued but if perhaps according to your desertes y● had gon oftner to the stake yet ye should haue suffred it patiently for the Gospels sake if ye were Gospellers for so were the Apostles wont to do at least wise ye shoulde not haue resisted wyth force of armes because ye were subiectes and were punished by an order of law at the commaundement of the Magistrats and superiour powers Could not the freedome of your Gospell florishe and purchase you the carnall freedome and loose libertie of the fleshe by no meanes without warre In good soothe ye neded not to repine for lacke of libertie For euery where ye were wont to set the vsuall and accustomed fastes of y ● Church at naught and fill the Panche freely to cary a sister wife about with you to toule Nunnes out of Cloysters and with filthy and sacrilegious Lechery to abuse them yea most commonly euery Apostate Monke had his Nunne at his taile And so it agreed wel if god wold haue had it so for Holy Kate her holy mate And like his like must loue By holy trade a broode is made To clime the Cloudes aboue It was the Frier Apostles pleasure that his Lady Venus Court should be franke and free If thy wife saith he wil not do it let thy maide supply her place the will of God commaundeth and necessitie bindeth as wel to haue carnal copulation and as to eat and drinke Was it your drift to redresse the vitious liuing and loose maners of these daies It had bene your part first to amend your owne
selues who were the worst in al y e packe and then hardely to lay to other mennes charge what ye could Or was this your purpose to compell men to receiue your Gospell and to poure it into their mouthes spite of their teethe So did neuer Christ plant his Religion but so Mahumet stablished his cursed sect Ye labored in vaine when ye trauailed to bring the world to your Religion by Villany railing and dubble Cannons as easily as the Apostles did win men to the Gospell of Christ by their good liuing preaching and miracles How be it in dede it was neither Religion nor Gospel nor Gods quarell that ye ment to further euen he him self who not for Gods sake but formalice against the Pope begā this whole Tragedy is a currant witnesse in this poynt and hath constantly so deposed Was it to restore the Christen Faithe being as ye thoughte well nighe worne out that ye made so great sturre Your labor was needlesse for the Churche of God the Seat and sure Piller of Truth hath allwaies without force and battail most Reuerently and charely kepte the Faith that was from the beginning cōmitted to her Custody This Christ obtained of his Father this shall the Heauenly Comforter the holye Ghoste perfourm for euer How thē good sirs Was this wel done so to turmoile and tosse the quiet state and publike affaires of cōmon weales to make a mixture and confusion of whot and cold high and low to trouble and turne vp and downe all thinges appertaining to God man so lightly so rashly so wickedly without any iust occasion without any sufficient cause without any good reason Men that professed Christianity haue sought cruelly and outragiously a longe time against Christen men haue sought their liues and goods haue bereaued thē of house and home of Church and Chappell welthy and rich Cities are impouerished sacked spoiled Church Vestries are voided rifled robbed And now if a man call them to accomptes aske the cause of al these their tragical cruel doings he shal haue a short answer w t mum budget except they will peraduēture allege this y t the lofty Ambitiō y e gredy Auarice the desperat boldnes of certen w●tō lose friers haue ministred iust occasiō of so horrible wicked hainous battel Now I come most gētle Audiēce to y e secōd parte of this matter to y e poynt wherin I promised to make discourse of their cōspiracies and treasons to the end ye may plainly perceiue y t our Aduersaries were not only w tout cause offēded rashli moued to bēd their minds to fight but that also they toke weapon in hand and bad battaile traiterously and that as they attempted warre without iustice right so they proclaimed and pursued the same without Authoritye and Commission to omit nothing that should help to fil vp the measure of their so great and execrable wickednesse It is great pitye in verye deede it is muche to be pitied that Christen Princes doe make warre one against another so often yea and that God wot for light occasion or wel nighe for none occasion at all Desire of raigne and soueraigntie light displeasure taken vpon a word spoken Glory Hastinesse Emulation of Rulers haue bread vs many times long and cruell battaile so that a man mighte wel now sing as the Poet Horace did When Kinges and Rulers kepe ill rule The people paies for all Their ouersightes the Commons sighes And feeles their wanton fall The time shall come Oh I tremble when I speake it the time shall come in deede when it shall repent them to late that by their lightnesse and raish panges so much and so manie mens blood hath bene shed Yet to say the truthe in suche warres most commonlie the souldiours are excused for that theyr part is rather to obey fulfil and accomplisshe their lawful Princes and Capitains commaundement then deliberate dispute and reason of the equitie of the cause wherefore they fight But in this domesticall insurrection in this mostruous Tumulte and Sedition that hath bene sturred vp these many yeres vnder pretense of refourmation in maters of Religion wherein nor Capitaine nor Magistrate nor Prince nor Emperour biddeth any man strike Where without anie Lieutenant general knight Martial or deputie Captaine all the whole hoste is but an assemble of priuate men of common souldiours or rather of rouers cutthrotes and moste cruell murderers who is voide of hainous offense what one is free from maliciouse treason Who of all this companie is able to say that he is in his conscience giltlesse innocent and vnspotted Priuate men that had no Authoritie ●t all bad battaill them selues of theyr owne headdes and styckte not without theyr Kynge and Soueraigne his commandement to bringe and receaue into the Realme forayners straingers hyred souldioures and enemies I wyll aske them nowe no more what iuste Quarell what reasonable Cause they had to muster and to proclayme warre Be it that the Cause was moste iuste and sufficiente because theyr pleasure was so But this I aske them what lawefull Power what lawe what Statute what Right what Custome or common Example of Antiquitie what Authoritie and Commission they had so to doe Whereas they are but mere Priuate men and Subiectes called to no Office nor Authoritie at all nor placed in anye roome or Dignitie in the Common weale yet they dare be so bolde as to Muster to Campe to pytche a Fylde they take vppon them to mynister Iustice and right right Rather may I cal it moste vnmercifull wronge they wyll needes be Rulers yea and rule al Rulers and the whole roste them selues alone If a man might be so bold as to aske you nowe right Honorable Gospellinge Capytaines as the Renoumed Prince and moste Reuerende Father my Lorde Cardinall of Lorraine a fewe yeres agoe asked the Ministers of that Deformed Churche in the Honorable Assemble at Poissie wherehence came you Who sent you By what Authoritie doe ye all these thinges either ye shoulde be domme without any thing to saye as they were then A longe whyle Or lye impudentlye as your accustomed manner is Or be driuen plainlye to confesse and graunte that ye are but priuate Subiectes of no Iurisdiction of no Place or Degree called to no Office or power to meddle with the Publyke Affaires of Christendome Finally that for all these your strainge maruelouse and monsterouse Mysteries which ye professe and practice moste impudently and desperately takinge vppon you to redresse the state of all Christendome and to Reforme matters of Religion ye haue no Authoritye at all neither ordinarie power in earth nor extraordinarie Commission from heauen For ye shal neuer be able to proue either this by Miracles or that by letters Patentes As for Martine Luther or rather Luder but that for shame he chaunged that filthie name of his borne at Islibium in Saxonie and begotten of
were a trauerse and close my self within a circle out of the cumpasse whereof the discourse and order of my talke shall not straie that by these meanes both I out of infinite matter that offreth it self in the hādling of this cause may haue certen special pointes marked and chosen wherof I may treat and also you euen now before hand may forsee beare in mynd in hearing what things your learned eares are lyke to be emploied during myne Oration I deny vtterlie y t there was any good or reasonable cause whie the founders brokers of this new Gospel shuld be driuen or prouoked to put them selues in armes against the Catholikes This is y e first poynt wherof I promised to speake Whiles in few wordes I declare proue this vnto you I humblie request you w t diligent attention to mark and geue ear It behoueth alwayes y t there be very great causes proued why before chainge of lawes shuld be in any common weale procured in very deed it ought to be a maruelouse occasion the greatest cause of all causes whie the innouation of Religion being alway y e very backebone of al Realmes both Christian and Heathen shuld be attempted But that either this or that should be don by force and armes by warre rebellion by fier swerd by murder and bloudshed of the good and faithfull Subiectes there can neuer any reason or sufficiente cause be alleged or brought why and wherefore I remēber amōg many other notable lawes wherwith in times past the Lorrenses ruled their cōmon weale it was with great policy and wisdom ordained y t if any mā wold go about to procure ani thainge in the publike affaires of y t estate he shuld stand vp in a high place there hence speake his minde frely to the people being then there assēbled about him but yet with this condition that all the while he spake he should haue a rope tied with a riding knot loose inough about his neck the which rope should be so lōg that the other end therof might lie on the ground betwene their feete that hard his discourse deuise to this effect that if in y t end of his tale y e people wer perswaded that it was for their cōmon cōmodity and profit to make that chainge and innouation as he had said then he shoulde come downe without any harme and be dimissed with muche commendation and fauor els the Audience out of hād might pull the rope and reuenge with present death the rash attempt and seditious enterprise of such a one as wythout good cause bestowed his busy braine about chainges and alterations If it had pleased the Princes and Rulers of y e world in this our time to haue established and practised this lawe we should haue no nede now to sighe at the sight of so miserable a confusion disorder and troublous ruffling of all things We should not haue sene of late and yet see this so lamētable an estate of the world so many Warres Tumultes Slaughters Ruines so many Churches suppressed so many Townes ouerturned finally we should not now rue so many wicked Sacrileges cōmitted in prophaning of Gods Mysteries sacred things appertaining to his Honor and Seruice But alas it was free without any feare of the rope for these authors and fosterers of Sectes frankly and boldly to perswade with the people and bestowe their wordes as they liste And would God they had staied there and had disbursed nothing but vernished woordes they wente further from Woordes to Woundes and Blowes They hadde the Word in their mouthes the Sword in their handes their Word sounded peace theyr Sword coyned war their peace serued for a guylful cloke to couer crafte and deceyt their war was employed to execute violence crueltie and murder Was there none other meanes to plant that bluddy Gospell but to attēpt Reformatiō in y e state of y e Churche by ciuil warres insurrections and Rebellion Put vp thy sword in the sheth saied Christ to S. Peter Oute with thy sword for the Gospell sayeth the new Gospeller There was a Companie of desperat wicked personnes y t ran lyke mad men vp and down the streates of Paris with glistering naked swordes in theyr handes and cried out the Gospel the Gospell when they meant nothing els but to bring a sort of cursed Sectes and wicked Heresies into the Realme It was not I assure you honorable worshipfull it was not the Gospel they brought except they hold it for a Gospel to cut in pecies to sacke spoile and quite to ouerthrow w t blowes naked sword all y e y e Euangelistes buylded w e y e Word It was not Gods quarell at all that bloudy bickering was neuer taken in hand for Gods sake And in this behalf I call to wittnes euen the self same man that was our most earnest fierce aduersarie in this question who was y e occasion of al our calāmitie and was the Author and maker of this lamentable Tragedie In this matter I say I call thee frier Luther to witnes For out of whose mouth I pray thee fell y t worthie saieng in the noble assemble of y e learned and honorable at Lipsia Neither was this matter euer begonne for Gods quarell nother shalbe ended for Gods sake O noble sentence and worthie in deed to come out of his mouth that would be called y e heauenly Prophere y e third Elias y e fifth Euāgeliste Was this matter say you neuer begonne for Gods sake I beleue it wel What was then y e cause I pray you good syr y t ye made so cruel so long so deadlie warre against y e Christians y t ye sticked not to trouble al Christendome w t ciuil barayle w t insurrectiōs vprores w t tumultes seditiō rebellion y t ye could find in your hartes to fight against your own parētes your own childrē against your Rulers magistrates yea against y e church of christ War ought neuer to be made without most waighty occasion For it is y t part of a wise mā to try all meanes waies rather thē to lay hād on his weapon but y t mē shuld fight at home in their own coūtrie against their own felows their own neighbors their own parēts there is no reson nor cause y t euer cā be foūd for it or surely if any be it is this that it be don by Cōmission lawful authority for Gods honor for Gods sake only for none other respect you sir Luther do flatly and yet most truly deny that these your doinges were for any suche reipect at all If I were able to say nothing in this matter but this y t thou thy self saiest for me yet out of doubt by y t verdict iugemēt of al honest wise indifferēt men I should preuail in this cause and proue al your sect to be seditious rash cruel wicked