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as_o any_o man_n will_v think_v then_o how_o can_v they_o say_v that_o our_o saviour_n condemn_v the_o one_o and_o allow_v the_o other_o the_o follow_v 13._o and_o 14._o section_n be_v spend_v about_o some_o objection_n take_v out_o of_o m_o r._n cartwrite_v but_o because_o the_o slitenesse_n of_o this_o instance_n be_v already_o sufficient_o discover_v i_o will_v not_o cloy_v nor_o detain_v the_o reader_n about_o they_o at_o this_o time_n but_o pass_v on_o to_o the_o next_o instance_n sect_n 15._o and_o 16._o concern_v the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n josh._n 22._o 1._o it_o be_v the_o def._n and_o rej._n their_o fashion_n to_o produce_v instance_n without_o proof_n of_o their_o fitness_n and_o so_o expect_v from_o we_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v disprove_v which_o be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o john_n a_o style_n shall_v in_o a_o great_a traverse_n bring_v forth_o against_o john_n a_o nokes_n some_o instrument_n for_o evidence_n of_o his_o cause_n which_o few_o or_o none_o beside_o himself_o 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god_n service_n ergo._n but_o m_o r._n parker_n in_o those_o sect_n tell_v he_o that_o religious_a in_o a_o sense_n common_a or_o mixt_o all_o thing_n be_v that_o be_v do_z to_o a_o holy_a end_n and_o religious_a in_o sense_n special_a or_o in_o state_n all_o those_o thing_n be_v that_o have_v order_n obligation_n and_o a_o kind_n of_o immobilitie_n in_o god_n service_n now_o the_o quaestion_n be_v not_o of_o the_o former_a common_a mix_a sense_n but_o of_o the_o late_a special_a state_n according_a to_o which_o no_o man_n can_v say_v the_o altar_n of_o jordan_n to_o have_v be_v religious_a upon_o ground_n of_o scripture_n or_o reason_n let_v any_o man_n judge_v then_o whether_o partiality_n do_v put_v out_o m_o r._n parker_n eye_n as_o the_o rej._n speak_v or_o blear_v they_o that_o see_v not_o the_o vanity_n of_o this_o allegation_n 3._o b._n babingtons_n word_n on_o the_o 2._o commandment_n be_v these_o they_o erect_v that_o altar_n not_o for_o religion_n but_o in_o deed_n for_o a_o civil_a use_n as_o you_o may_v see_v josh._n 22._o the_o rejoynd_a answer_v that_o he_o call_v the_o altar_n civil_a analogical_o because_o it_o be_v ordain_v by_o consent_n of_o fellow-citizen_n which_o be_v as_o mere_a a_o shift_n as_o any_o yet_o invent_v by_o the_o rejoynder_n for_o 1._o he_o call_v not_o the_o altar_n but_o the_o use_n civil_a 2._o he_o oppose_v this_o civility_n not_o unto_o divine_a institution_n as_o the_o rejoynder_n will_v have_v he_o but_o unto_o the_o same_o fellow-citizen_n erect_v of_o a_o altar_n for_o religion_n 3._o what_o he_o mean_v appear_v plain_o by_o his_o three_o proposition_n there_o set_v down_o in_o these_o term_n it_o be_v lawful_a to_o make_v picture_n of_o thing_n which_o we_o have_v see_v to_o a_o civil_a use_n but_o not_o to_o use_v they_o in_o the_o church_n and_o for_o religion_n 4._o to_o pass_v over_o circumstantial_a passage_n the_o def._n
prove_v this_o altar_n to_o be_v appoint_v unto_o god_n service_n because_o it_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o the_o lord_n altar_n as_o our_o cross_n be_v a_o resemblance_n of_o christ_n cross_n be_v 1._o reprove_v by_o the_o reply_o because_o the_o cross_n whereon_o christ_n do_v suffer_v be_v no_o more_o holy_a than_o judas_n and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v compare_v unto_o the_o lord_n altar_n to_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n in_o many_o word_n make_v show_v of_o say_v something_o but_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o say_v any_o thing_n i_o for_o my_o part_n can_v not_o discern_v what_o it_o be_v 5._o the_o replier_n also_o in_o the_o second_o place_n allege_v that_o every_o resemblance_n of_o a_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o therefore_o holy_a because_o then_o every_o alehouse_n picture_n take_v from_o holy_a thing_n mention_v in_o scripture_n shall_v be_v holy_a and_o a_o model_n of_o the_o temple_n carry_v by_o a_o tyrian_a workman_n into_o his_o country_n for_o news_n shall_v 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magistrate_n the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o people_n and_o power_n to_o appoint_v unto_o all_o israel_n a_o solemn_a significant_a ceremony_n for_o their_o common_a use_n the_o rej._n add_v in_o the_o 2._o place_n that_o all_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o same_o help_n to_o devotion_n and_o the_o other_o tribe_n need_v no_o such_o monument_n or_o pattern_n have_v the_o altar_n itself_o in_o possession_n where_o 1._o except_o he_o hold_v the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a bind_v to_o set_v up_o this_o altar_n he_o make_v in_o that_o no_o difference_n if_o he_o so_o hold_v than_o it_o be_v no_o instance_n of_o a_o mere_a arbitrarie_a ceremony_n 2._o the_o two_o tribe_n have_v the_o lord_n altar_n in_o present_a possession_n as_o well_o as_o divers_a of_o the_o other_o so_o that_o by_o this_o reason_n they_o also_o for_o the_o present_a need_n no_o such_o monument_n and_o pattern_n which_o be_v the_o very_a point_n in_o this_o place_n question_v 7._o the_o reply_o affirm_v that_o in_o 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one_o of_o the_o learnede_a and_o most_o ancient_a jew_n now_o exstant_fw-la say_v antiq._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 4._o they_o place_v a_o altar_n on_o the_o bank_n of_o the_o river_n as_o a_o memorable_a sign_n of_o the_o nearness_n and_o affinity_n of_o they_o that_o dwell_v beyond_o jordan_n viz._n with_o they_o within_o canaan_n again_o it_o be_v not_o place_v for_o worship_n but_o symbolical_o and_o as_o a_o memorandum_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o you_o 8._o the_o rejoynder_n as_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v all_o other_o answer_n bring_v in_o one_o make_v to_o himself_o in_o conference_n though_o he_o have_v not_o find_v it_o in_o print_n as_o a_o grand_a absurdity_n namely_o that_o the_o gileadite_n do_v ill_a in_o erect_v this_o altar_n and_o the_o rest_n also_o in_o allow_v of_o it_o now_o as_o for_o allowance_n by_o the_o high_a priest_n prince_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o i_o find_v it_o not_o evident_a in_o the_o text._n about_o the_o other_o i_o find_v this_o 1._o that_o d._n fulke_o no_o absurd_a divine_a against_o sander_n of_o image_n pag._n 649._o write_v thus_o in_o print_n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a josh._n 22._o make_v not_o a_o image_n but_o a_o altar_n for_o a_o memorial_n and_o yet_o their_o fact_n be_v not_o commendable_a though_o it_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n excusable_a 2._o i_o find_v also_o that_o calvin_n before_o he_o upon_o josh._n 22._o say_v thus_o duae_fw-la tribus_fw-la â—um_fw-la dimidia_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a do_v very_o ill_a which_o be_v the_o great_a absurdity_n that_o the_o rejoynder_n have_v hear_v in_o conference_n but_o not_o see_v in_o print_n before_o now_o sect_n 17.18.19.20.21_o
that_o these_o ceremony_n in_o controversy_n be_v not_o convenient_a the_o def._n profess_v a_o full_a answer_n to_o all_o that_o be_v object_v give_v no_o answer_n to_o any_o thing_n there_o allege_v to_o that_o purpose_n when_o he_o be_v challenge_v by_o the_o repl._n for_o not_o show_v they_o convenient_a the_o rej._n pag._n 167._o accuse_v he_o of_o more_o impudency_n than_o he_o will_v have_v expect_v from_o any_o friar_n and_o yet_o direct_v we_o not_o to_o the_o place_n where_o he_o have_v go_v about_o any_o such_o matter_n the_o rej._n himself_o undertake_v to_o manifest_v their_o conveniency_n by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n sudden_o break_v off_o pag._n 74._o and_o refer_v that_o demonstration_n to_o a_o fit_a place_n which_o place_n hitherto_o he_o can_v not_o find_v nor_o ever_o will_n beside_o the_o rej._n confess_v a_o multitude_n of_o godly_a learned_a man_n among_o who_o be_v calvin_n beza_n martyr_n bucer_n hooper_n jewel_n fulke_o rainolds_n whitaker_n humphrey_n perkins_n etc._n etc._n to_o have_v hold_v our_o ceremony_n inexpedient_a or_o inconvenient_a at_o the_o least_o nay_o he_o himself_o have_v be_v in_o the_o same_o heresy_n all_o this_o notwithstanding_o he_o think_v it_o not_o significent_fw-la in_o one_o word_n to_o say_v for_o a_o shift_n without_o any_o proof_n or_o declaration_n that_o they_o be_v convenient_a for_o our_o church_n conveniency_n be_v esteem_v when_o as_o a_o thing_n after_o the_o consideration_n of_o all_o circumstance_n isfound_v to_o bring_v more_o good_a at_o the_o least_o then_o evil_a with_o it_o and_o i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o the_o rej._n his_o own_o conscience_n whether_o our_o ceremony_n have_v be_v cause_n or_o occasion_n of_o more_o good_a than_o evil_a they_o may_v do_v hurt_v say_v beza_n but_o they_o can_v do_v no_o good_a god_n know_v say_v m_n r._n fox_n they_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o much_o blindness_n and_o strife_n among_o man_n let_v this_o by_o the_o way_n be_v well_o observe_v out_o of_o this_o 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deut._n 14_o 1._o and_o 12.4_o and_o 30.32_o 2._o cor._n 6.14.18_o rev._n 18.4_o 1._o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v here_o allege_v in_o the_o abridgement_n as_o forbid_v all_o provocation_n unto_o spiritual_a fornication_n as_o the_o seven_o do_v unto_o that_o which_o be_v carnal_a this_o the_o def._n pass_v by_o in_o silence_n and_o therein_o be_v defend_v by_o the_o rej._n because_o according_a to_o his_o method_n in_o one_o particular_a argument_n he_o take_v knowledge_n of_o it_o par_fw-fr 2._o c._n 2._o s._n 2._o as_o if_o john_n a-stile_n his_o plea_n for_o 3._o acre_n of_o ground_n be_v sufficient_o answer_v by_o john_n a-noxe_a if_o he_o cold_a with_o any_o show_n ward_v it_o off_o from_o 1._o acre_n his_o own_o answer_n be_v that_o as_o the_o seven_o commandment_n do_v not_o forbid_v the_o use_n of_o all_o such_o thing_n as_o accidental_o do_v or_o may_v provoke_v some_o man_n to_o base_a uncleanness_n but_o only_o such_o as_o in_o and_o of_o themselves_o be_v work_a incitement_n thereto_o so_o neither_o do_v the_o second_o commandment_n forbid_v the_o use_n of_o all_o such_o thing_n as_o the_o lust_n of_o some_o idolater_n may_v turn_v to_o spiritual_a fornication_n but_o only_o of_o such_o as_o have_v in_o themselves_o or_o in_o such_o use_n of_o they_o a_o habitude_n or_o aptness_n to_o provoke_v thereto_o but_o 1._o our_o divine_n general_o teach_v as_o zanchy_a de_fw-mi red._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 14._o brief_o express_v their_o meaning_n the_o sum_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v that_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n or_o ceremony_n thereabouts_o we_o be_v to_o devise_v nothing_o of_o our_o own_o brain_n or_o borrow_v aught_o of_o heathenish_a idolatrous_a rite_n etc._n summa_fw-la est_fw-la secundi_fw-la pracepti_fw-la in_fw-la externo_fw-la cultu_fw-la qui_fw-la deo_fw-la debetur_fw-la seu_fw-la in_o ceremonijs_fw-la nihil_fw-la nobis_fw-la esse_fw-la ex_fw-la nostrâ—_fw-la capite_fw-la comminiscendum_fw-la neque_fw-la ex_fw-la ritibus_fw-la gentium_fw-la idololatrarum_fw-la adhibendum_fw-la etc._n etc._n 2._o let_v this_o be_v so_o the_o question_n yet_o remain_v whether_o our_o ceremony_n the_o cross_n for_o example_n have_v not_o some_o habitude_n and_o aptness_n to_o provoke_v towards_o idolatry_n i_o think_v it_o will_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o the_o cross_n be_v a_o idol_n at_o paris_n at_o calis_n and_o among_o the_o papist_n in_o england_n now_o suppose_v a_o know_a harlot_n to_o be_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o stue_n at_o paris_n or_o calis_n unto_o dover_n and_o lodge_v there_o in_o a_o honest_a man_n bed_n or_o bedchamber_n as_o the_o cross_n be_v in_o the_o bed_n of_o our_o religion_n the_o holy_a sacrament_n will_v any_o man_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o habitude_n nor_o aptness_n in_o such_o a_o harlot_n and_o her_o lodging_n to_o provoke_v even_o a_o honest_a man_n and_o much_o more_o a_o dissolute_a companion_n unto_o filthy_a folly_n difference_n i_o know_v none_o but_o only_o that_o the_o spiritual_a folly_n may_v be_v more_o secret_o and_o mystical_o provoke_v and_o exercise_v then_o carnal_a can_v the_o rej._n shall_v have_v do_v well_o if_o he_o have_v give_v we_o a_o certain_a rule_n whereby_o we_o may_v have_v distinguish_v betwixt_o those_o monument_n or_o relic_n of_o idolatry_n which_o have_v a_o habitude_n or_o aptness_n in_o they_o to_o provoke_v unto_o idolatry_n and_o those_o which_o have_v not_o for_o then_o more_o may_v have_v be_v say_v therefrom_o either_o for_o or_o against_o our_o ceremony_n now_o we_o can_v tell_v where_o to_o take_v hold_n save_v only_o in_o this_o that_o habitude_n and_o aptness_n of_o provoke_v towards_o idolatry_n be_v in_o every_o consent_a relation_n that_o any_o ceremony_n otherwise_o unnecessary_a have_v to_o any_o idol_n and_o all_o such_o relation_n of_o our_o ceremony_n to_o idol_n can_v be_v deny_v neither_o can_v their_o necessity_n to_o true_a religion_n be_v with_o any_o show_n of_o reason_n or_o honesty_n maintain_v beside_o what_o jealous_a or_o wise_a husband_n if_o his_o wife_n shall_v receive_v any_o thing_n from_o a_o know_a adulterer_n who_o have_v also_o go_v about_o to_o undermyne_a her_o honesty_n and_o keep_v it_o always_o in_o her_o bosom_n will_v take_v this_o for_o a_o sufficient_a excuse_n that_o such_o a_o thing_n have_v not_o in_o itself_o any_o habitude_n or_o aptness_n of_o provoke_v unto_o adultery_n and_o do_v not_o god_n tell_v we_o that_o he_o be_v in_o like_a sort_n a_o jealous_a god_n from_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o m_o r._n perkins_n with_o divers_a other_o in_o write_v on_o the_o second_o commandment_n doctrinal_o without_o special_a meddle_v with_o controversy_n make_v one_o head_n of_o thing_n therein_o forbid_v the_o monument_n and_o relic_n of_o idolatry_n 2._o to_o leu._n 18.3.4_o and_o 19.19.27_o the_o def._n his_o answer_n be_v according_a to_o the_o rejoynder_n his_o extraction_n that_o these_o place_n do_v not_o prove_v the_o abolish_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a in_o nature_n mere_o for_o the_o abuse_n of_o they_o to_o idolatry_n which_o be_v say_v he_o the_o point_n to_o be_v prove_v because_o cut_v off_o the_o flesh_n for_o the_o dâ—ad_n be_v evil_a in_o itself_o and_o sow_v with_o divers_a seed_n in_o one_o field_n be_v forbid_v for_o a_o typical_a document_n of_o that_o sincerity_n which_o god_n require_v in_o his_o people_n where_o 2._o he_o mistake_v or_o pervert_v the_o question_n which_o be_v not_o of_o thing_n indifferent_a but_o not_o necessary_a nor_o of_o all_o thing_n not_o necessary_a but_o of_o ceremony_n 2._o cut_v off_o the_o flesh_n for_o the_o dead_a with_o a_o good_a meaning_n nor_o be_v nor_o be_v more_o evil_a in_o itself_o than_o circumcission_n which_o both_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n allow_v as_o lawful_a under_o prester_n john_n pag._n 285.3_o that_o typical_a doctrine_n of_o sincerity_n forbid_v plain_o all_o mix_n of_o idolater_n relic_n with_o god_n holy_a
wolphius_n lavater_n sadeel_v jewel_n bilson_n fulke_o rainolds_n andrue_v and_o perkins_n to_o all_o these_o it_o be_v unseasonable_a say_v the_o rejoynder_n to_o answer_v at_o full_a in_o this_o place_n we_o must_v therefore_o wait_v though_o in_o vain_a for_o a_o place_n which_o will_v seem_v seasonable_a 6._o the_o defender_n in_o fine_a note_v two_o disparity_n betwixt_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n and_o our_o ceremony_n 1._o that_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o jew_n about_o that_o be_v public_a general_a and_o in_o the_o same_o church_n which_o be_v not_o so_o with_o our_o ceremony_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o mean_n to_o cure_v the_o idolatry_n of_o those_o time_n as_o now_o there_o be_v to_o the_o former_a it_o be_v answer_v 1._o that_o these_o circumstance_n be_v not_o render_v as_o reason_n of_o abolish_n the_o brazen_a serpent_n in_o the_o text_n but_o invent_v by_o the_o def._n true_a say_v the_o rej._n yet_o any_o man_n may_v conceive_v that_o they_o may_v be_v reason_n but_o for_o generality_n i_o can_v conceive_v how_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v and_o the_o public_a abuse_n though_o it_o may_v be_v a_o reason_n yet_o not_o such_o a_o one_o as_o that_o with_o it_o abolish_n shall_v be_v use_v or_o suspend_v but_o our_o ceremony_n add_v the_o rej._n must_v in_o comparison_n be_v liken_v to_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n use_v well_o at_o jerusalem_n which_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v abolish_v for_o such_o another_o in_o relation_n to_o that_o set_v up_o at_o bethel_n and_o make_v a_o idol_n wherein_o he_o mistake_v much_o for_o first_o our_o ceremony_n be_v never_o good_a or_o well_o use_v calvin_n be_v allow_v of_o by_o the_o def._n and_o rej._n for_o his_o moderation_n about_o they_o let_v he_o therefore_o speak_v i_o answer_v the_o turncoat_n what_o be_v there_o in_o the_o papacy_n unlike_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n except_o only_o the_o original_n epist._n 265._o the_o popish_a ceremony_n be_v naught_o from_o the_o beginning_n sunt_fw-la resp._n ad_fw-la versipellem_fw-la quid_fw-la in_o papatu_fw-la non_fw-la simile_n serpenti_fw-la aneo_fw-la prater_fw-la originem_fw-la epist._n 265._o ceremoniae_fw-la papale_n à _fw-la svo_fw-la principio_fw-la vitiosa_fw-la sunt_fw-la 2._o the_o papist_n do_v not_o take_v these_o ceremony_n from_o we_o but_o we_o from_o they_o 3._o it_o may_v be_v very_o well_o question_v whether_o the_o serpent_n at_o jerusalem_n consider_v as_o no_o way_n command_v of_o god_n shall_v not_o have_v be_v abolish_v if_o the_o ten_o tribe_n shall_v have_v take_v occasion_n by_o it_o of_o idolatry_n it_o be_v answer_v 2._o that_o private_a idolatry_n be_v also_o to_o be_v remoove_v as_o well_o as_o public_a that_o can_v be_v the_o facto_fw-la say_v the_o rejoynder_n yet_o thus_o far_o it_o may_v be_v very_o well_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la that_o nothing_o be_v use_v in_o public_a which_o be_v know_v to_o nourish_v idolatry_n in_o private_a it_o be_v answer_v 3._o that_o all_o these_o circumstance_n do_v more_o than_o agree_v to_o our_o ceremony_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o our_o reformation_n to_o this_o it_o be_v rejoin_v 1._o that_o our_o ceremony_n be_v never_o the_o object_n of_o gross_a idolatry_n which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v if_o he_o have_v think_v of_o the_o cross_n or_o that_o the_o proper_a mean_n of_o idolatry_n be_v as_o well_o to_o be_v abolish_v as_o the_o object_n the_o 2._o rejoynder_n be_v that_o though_o they_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v remoove_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o reformation_n yet_o now_o not_o which_o be_v as_o if_o a_o debtor_n shall_v plead_v that_o he_o owe_v indeed_o so_o much_o money_n to_o his_o creditor_n long_o ago_o but_o now_o though_o it_o have_v be_v every_o year_n call_v for_o he_o be_v quit_v by_o defer_v the_o payment_n sure_o say_v the_o repl._n our_o ceremony_n be_v not_o grow_v better_a since_o the_o reformation_n by_o any_o good_a they_o have_v do_v that_o be_v not_o here_o consider_v answer_v the_o rejoynder_n but_o if_o they_o be_v 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their_o place_n 6._o the_o question_n be_v if_o this_o be_v know_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n it_o be_v rejoin_v 1._o that_o bishop_n be_v often_o inquestion_n at_o synod_n about_o their_o title_n to_o their_o place_n which_o be_v as_o much_o but_o 1._o this_o be_v not_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n 2._o question_v before_o synod_n about_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n be_v of_o ecclesiastical_a nature_n go_v to_o law_n not_o so_o in_o synod_n all_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v determine_v by_o god_n word_n at_o the_o king_n bench_n and_o assize_n the_o judge_n pronounce_v sentence_n by_o man_n law_n yet_o the_o good_a ancient_a bishop_n be_v so_o far_o from_o seek_v a_o title_n to_o their_o place_n by_o synodical_a judgement_n that_o they_o withdraw_v themselves_o as_o be_v afraid_a to_o have_v such_o a_o title_n put_v upon_o they_o either_o by_o church_n or_o synod_n example_n of_o which_o modesty_n we_o have_v even_o in_o decline_a time_n basil_n gregory_n etc._n etc._n a_o law_n we_o 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say_v lawing_n about_o place_n arise_v upon_o the_o title_n
court_n by_o which_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o many_o poor_a man_n be_v trouble_v at_o the_o first_o for_o a_o small_a thing_n afterward_o be_v drive_v to_o fly_v the_o country_n and_o fly_v with_o a_o hatred_n of_o such_o course_n be_v ready_a to_o receive_v that_o impression_n which_o be_v most_o opposite_a unto_o they_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v plain_a enough_o to_o all_o indifferent_a man_n that_o ecclesiastical_a corruption_n urge_v and_o obtrude_v be_v the_o proper_a occasion_n of_o separation_n sect_n xix_o xx._n in_o the_o next_o place_n the_o papist_n be_v allege_v as_o person_n offend_v by_o nonconformity_n because_o they_o aâ—e_v utter_o unperswadeable_a to_o entâ—r_v into_o a_o church_n where_o all_o ancient_a rite_n be_v profess_o reject_v but_o 1._o the_o refuse_v of_o conformity_n by_o the_o minister_n do_v not_o i_o hope_v make_v these_o ancient_a rite_n much_o less_o all_o to_o be_v profess_o reject_v by_o our_o church_n for_o than_o we_o may_v plead_v the_o 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pretence_n of_o peace_n and_o uniformity_n 5._o one_o minister_n without_o conformity_n as_o old_a m._n midsâ—y_o of_o ratsdell_n who_o be_v after_o silence_v for_o his_o labour_n have_v convert_v more_o papist_n then_o any_o i_o may_v say_v then_o all_o of_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n with_o all_o his_o ceremonial_a observation_n 6._o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o there_o be_v far_o more_o papist_n and_o popish_o affect_v in_o those_o place_n where_o ceremony_n be_v most_o observe_v then_o where_o they_o have_v be_v difuse_v 7._o it_o be_v answer_v in_o the_o abridgement_n pag._n 47.48_o that_o ceremony_n be_v not_o for_o the_o aedification_n of_o the_o papist_n but_o for_o the_o harden_v of_o they_o and_o that_o papist_n be_v not_o so_o much_o to_o be_v respect_v as_o brethren_n to_o the_o latter_a of_o which_o word_n the_o defendant_n repli_v with_o a_o descant_n upon_o the_o term_n brethren_n sect_n 20._o but_o say_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n 8._o what_o 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