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A96888	A dialogue, arguing that arch-bishops, bishops, curates, neuters, are to be cut-off by the law of God; therefore all these, with their service, are to be castout by the law of the land. Notwithstanding, the world pleads for their own, why some bishops should be spared; the government maintained; the name had in honour still; but the word of God is cleare against all this, for the casting-of-all-forth. The great question is, which way of government now? For two wayes are contended for, The Presbyteriall and Independent: something is said to both these wayes: but we have a sure word for it, that these two wayes are but in shew two, and will assuredly meet in one. Neuters are shewen openly here, and the curse of God upon them. Presented to the Assembly of Divines.	Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675.	1644 (1644)	Wing W3486A; Thomason E34_10; ESTC R22862	54,646	56

fourth reason here There is no need of the name Cast it away and there will be no lacke Lastly should I reade you a leafe in the Rhem Testament how effectuall the holding-up and keeping-in of names has been for the keeping-in of abominable persons and things you would yeeld mee so farre at least That this name Bishop is to be abolished I have don A. And I am satisfied and at a sweet agreement in my soule That Arch-bishops Lord-Bishops their Government and office is to be thrust-out and the name abolished I pray you heartily give me leave to weepe B. You need not aske leave you have a command for that Weepe with them that weepe It is sufficient you have a command to weepe for your owne sinnes and others and for the slaine of the people You have example for it too To make your couch swim with teares your eyes flow like rivers and to make the place you stand in a Bochim * Judg. 1. 5 a place of weeping for reasons many from within and from without weepe and spare not A. To tell you the truth I never thought of this kinde of weeping I asked you leave to weepe for company with the Kings and Merchants of the earth Because their gods are taken away and what have they more B. O monstrous weepe for company with the Kings and Merchants of the earth This indeed is to weepe with them that weepe but it is to doe as those women did who sate weeping for Tammuz Ezek. 8. 14 A. That is Hebrew is it not B. No nor Greeke neither It was an Aegyptian-god a most abominable Idoll As comely a posture now for Kings and Merchants of the earth to sit weeping over the Hierarchy amore abominable Idoll than was that Tammuz A. I yeeld to you heartily But truly I intended to weepe in a merriment onely as I have heard one did and so I le tell you a Story to refresh you and my selfe a little A little man but a great Tyrant was ferrying-over to a place from whence he must never returne And a poore Cobler who was mightily oppressed by that Tyrant was in the same Boat with him The Tyrant wept heartily for he was taken from all his gods he should see them no more neither his Palaces nor his Lordships and so he cryed lamentably The Ferriman a merry fellow would make the Cobler cry too and so he did O mee poore Cobler I have taken Sanctuary now at the place where the wicked cease from troubling where the weary lie at rest They heare not the voyce of the oppressed O mee poore wretch I shall mend shooes no more I shall labour no more I shall feele neither hunger nor thirst any more B. I le heare no more not a word more though I know it might be well applyed You have made it pretty Christian yet it is not for this place I would have you rejoyce in all the peoples sight and sing aloud for joy of heart for so the upright doe Certainly there is the same cause now to rejoyce as the Church had when they went through the Psal 66. 6. flood on foote There did wee rejoyce in Him our Fathers went over wee rejoyce And for the same reason for wee say now as they did then Thy right hand O Lord is become glorious in power and so forth for wonderfull workes follow as are the workes of GOD now adayes Certainly the Church has the same cause of rejoycing as it had when the great Dragon was cast-out Then was heard a loud voyce saying in Rev. 12. 9 10. heaven in the Church now is come salvation c. reade it out Certainly the Churches time is coming nay it is come when Babylon must be throwne downe Therefore wee must now heare a great voyce of much Rev. 18. 21 people in heaven the Church saying Hallelujah Salvation and glory and honour and power unto the Lord our God Amen Rev. 19. 1. A. I thanke you Sir you have made good use of my fained teares and fained mirth you have taught mee how to doe both in good earnest B. It is an hard lesson heare me forth I pray you and The LORD grant I may heare my selfe 1 If you doe weep indeed if you are grieved indeed then your griefe is more That you have grieved GOD than because His and your Adversaries have grieved you that is first 2 If you rejoyce indeed then you rejoyce with trembling 3. If you prayse GOD indeed for the workes He has done I cannot expresse how wonderfull they are then you live to His praise That is Selah then you rise-high in praises when your life praiseth Him that is when your conversation is in heaven If God your God is your strength then He is your Song If He be your Salvation He is your praise too 4. If you long to see God appeare in His Glory To see Him worshipped according to His Command in a Church-way Then you are fitting and making your heart meet for such a worship and you commune with your owne heart upon your bed enquiring what holinesse you have gained by the Ordinances you now have for they that are not good husbands and thriving under these I cannot tell whether they shall be trusted with greater matters 5. And to shutt up this matter If it be with you as aforesaid Then your heart is open and your mouth open and your purse is open and your hands hang not down All you have and all you are shall be expended laid out for Him for His Name for His cause for His servants All for Him who hath so laid-forth all His Attributes for us A falling sinking dying Nation All for Him forget it not who remembred us in our low estate All for Him Amen A. I joyne with you heartily and that is all the answer I can make to all the fore-mentioned I must enquire further of you for resolution now The Government by Bishops it is gone it is fallen like a great Milstone It shall be found no more in heaven the Church Amen There are now two wayes of Government I expresse it as I can and as I conceive it in the most popular way The Presbyterian way the Independent way The Adversary meets mee in both wayes crosseth mee in the one choakes mee in the other I beseech you Sir for Gods sake and His cause be pleased to give mee satisfaction that I may satisfie others who finding mee almost your Conver● B. I le cut you short there I pray you doe not call your selfe my Convert If the Word of GOD has not turned you hold you where you first were for Arch-bishops Lord or Diocesan-Bishops hold you there A. God forbid But I pray you pardon the Word It relates to you but as to an instrument and let mee goe on My Adversaries finding me a Convert hitt mee in the teeth with this You are for the Scotts Discipline the Presbyteriall-Government a Rigid Government worse than

God of Gods and Lord of Lords But what the Lord has don what good He has brought out of all this evill is not the Question now I charge you before the Living God answer me to this Were all the writings sayings doings of the Bishops but an endeavour onely but a Designe Have they effected nothing touching the premisses Open your mouth and speak as the Oracle of God and as in the eares of God Have the Bishops but endeavoured onely in polluting To pollute The Lords Day Answer me that first A. It cannot be denied That the Bishops set-out a Book wherein they gave an Advousion of libertie to the people for harmlesse sports and pass-times to passe over the Sunday as they The Lords day as yee call it Indeed this Grant of libertie workt contrary effects as all men say but that was by accident as the Logicians say It was not in the nature of the thing but in the nature of the people B. You are mistaken in the first word and so all along You call the Declaration for Sports a grant of libertie to the people That is true though they need not such a grant for they will take it without leave But it was a Law and Command to the Pastours To give their people that libertie Secondly You call them harmlesse Sports and lawfull pass-times You should understand That these very names sports and pass-times are not compatible not any way congruous with so sacred a Time as is The Lords Day Therefore the Bishops should not have distinguished of sports but have cast-them-out as neither Civill nor Harm-lesse nor Man-like but the contrary nor lawfull specially mixt dancing on any day most unlawfull and brutish on the Lords Day Thirdly You say That this Declaration for Sports worke contrary to the Bishops meaning and that the effects were by accident Wee say the Declaration workt according to the heart of the Bishop And that such effects as wee have now seene were in the nature of the thing as well as in the nature of the people A. You must remember That there were two very godly expressions in the Declaration for Sports whereby the Bishops did declare a very pious meaning sure The first That they commanded no other sports but what would make the people fit for warre that is the expression B. A godly expression said you and declaring a godly intent by giving the people a libertie to sport and passe-away a sacred Time with Whitson-Ales May-games c. thereby to make the people fit for warre I le tell you a Story whereby you shall be inabled to give Judgement upon this Cyrus a brave Commander vexed still with the Lydians a very warlike people bethought himselfe of a way to tame the Lydians and to make them sober men by making them first drunke with wine and sotted with pleasures for thus it was Cyrus sets forth a gracious Declaration unto them gave the Lydians the same libertie then which the Bishops gave to the people now A licence to set-up Ale-houses Cauponias ●t ludicras artes exercere To exercise their bodies and refresh their minds with sports pass-times games c. I put a Question now and crave your answer Was Cyrus his intent by this grant of libertie unto the Lydians To make them fit or unfit for warre A. Unfit sure B. You have spoken like a man the very Truth for so it was A very warlike people before becomes as weake as water presently after And to give you in short what Aelian contributes to this Story These people were so delighted in dauncing That they taught their horses to daunce So when the horses heard the Trumpet and the Drum they thought it was the Taber and the Pipe so the horses fell to dauncing and gave up their Riders to the spoile And now if you cannot the present time shall declare the Bishops meaning and the purpose of those words To make the people fit for warre i. e. make a people fit for destruction To be devoured by the mouth of the sword as it is at this Day The people were made drunke with wine and strong drinke and drunke with pleasure Now the Lord has made them drunke with their owne bloud in their owne Land Wee by command from the Bishops have blasphemed Gods Name polluted His day defiled His Sanctuaries Now The LORD has made us fit for warre Now He has given us for a spoile and to the Robbers He has powered upon us the fury of Isa 42. ω. His anger and the strength of Battle And doe wee complaine That our Cities are some of them wasted and othersome impoverished Let us admire That our Cities are not all so wasted and left without Inhabitants That all are not made as Sodom and like unto Gomoral● That is the wonder and the patience of a God! That a God so provoked should be so gracious there is matter for wonder A. To interrupt you a little I must tell you That the Declaration for sports and Pass-times do's declare its selfe against silthy Tiplings and drunkennesse The other expression very godly and gracious expresse against Tipling that swinish sinne forbidding it in expresse tearmes B. You are mistaken That D●claration commands Riott Luxury Drunkennesse Intemperance and wantonnesse Though not directly and in expresse words yet by most necessary undoubted consequence as an effect from the cause which being naturall and sufficient includeth the effect and alwayes giveth it It is true There was an expresse forbidding of filthy Tiplings and Drunkennesse for so run the words They are but words Filthy Tiplings and Drunkennesse and Rioting in 2 Pet. 2. 13 the day time all these were in that Charter for libertie as in the roote As Death was in the Pott As a fall in pride As destruction and death in sin and rebellion It is not possible to countenance Whitsun-Ales and discountenance Drunkennesse To Command Wakes and forbid Tiplings To allow of setting-up May-poles and other sports therwith used and disallow of Chambering and Wantonnesse If I grant the cause I cannot forbid the effect no more than I can forbid a stone to fall down-ward or an Eagle to hasten to its prey no more than I can forbid the fire to burne or the Sun to shine But if I take away the fuell then the fire will goe out No man will show himselfe so uncivill and below himselfe as to Command Drunkennesse Intemperance wantonnesse in plaine tearmes Nor need wee a command to doe that wherein our natures too much command us Where the law of nature speakes no need it should be assisted by a Commandement Wee carry about us a law in our members which leads us captive to the law of sin If a Magistrate will be entreated for the erecting supporting of bloudy dens Schooles of mis-rule nurceries of the Gallowes so blessed Bolton calls Ale-houses he doth encourage and support swinish Drunkards worse than swine in the Church and more harmfull than they in that garden