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B00623	The peoples plea for the exercise of prophesie. Against Mr. Iohn Yates his monopolie. / By Iohn Robinson.	Robinson, John, 1575?-1625.; Yates, John, d. ca. 1660.; Brewster, William, 1566 or 7-1644, printer, attributed name.	1618 (1618)	STC 21115A; ESTC S94919	38,827	88

THE PEOPLES PLEA FOR THE EXERCISE of Prophesie Against Mr. Iohn Yates his Monopolie By Iohn Robinson 1. COR. 14.1 Follow after charity and desire spirituall gifes but rather that yee may prophesie Printed in the yeare 1618. TO MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS IN NORwich and theerabouts Grace and salvation from the God and giver thereof THat loving and thankfull remembrance in which I alwaies haue you my Christian friends provoketh me as continually to commend unto God your welfare so to reioyce greatly when I understand thereof and specially that your soules doe prosper And as the prosperity of the soule is principally furthered by the zealous preaching of the Gospell so hath it been matter of unfained reioycing unto me to heare how God hath of late stirred up amongst you divers instruments whose zealous indevours hee hath used that way and covering in mercy what is evill of ignorance infirmity on their parts I hope in their enterance ministrations doth blesse what is of himselfe to the good of his chosen But as it falleth out in nature that the pure waters draw of the tainture of the soyl through which they run so with you it seemes the pure truths of the Gospell haue suffered by some too great mixture with sundry Popish errours about the Church and ministery in and by which they are propounded and this more especially by M. Yates a man of good gifts in himselfe and note amongst you pleading the cause of the Whoore of Babylon the Church of Rome as Christs wife and of Antichrists cleargie as of Christs ministery And as this clergies exaltation is not a little furthered by usurpatiō on the peoples liberty which it swalloweth up and thereby swelleth aboue proportion so in all his pleading for the one hee doth necessarily implead the other and as in other things so specially in the exercise of Prophesie or teaching in the church by an ordinary gift in which every one that is able bringeth his shot in due time and order for a ioynt feast of that heavenly repast the word of God The Arguments in his writing sent unto me by W. E. with his consent and that before the Magistrate I haue set down word for word and answered and therewith confirmed what I haue else where published in iustification of this exercise against his exceptions and answers which In the Iustification of Separation being scattered here and there in his large discourse and divers of them divers times repeated I haue collected contracted and set in orderly oppsition to their contrary Arguments and that without any the least wrong to my knowledge unto him or his cause as having left out nothing in his writing which might seeme to bring advantage to his purpose Now if any shall aske me why I haue not rather answered M. Hall his large and learned volume against me and the generall cause which I professe my reasons are First because it is a large volume so full farced by him as it seemes that he might prevent further answer Secondly his treatise is as much and more immediately against the Reformists and their cause in the maine as against us and ours Thirdly the truth requireth not that persons but things be answered and thing in it know I none not answerd in my Defence against M. Bernard Lastly I doe put as great difference between him and M. Yates as between a word-wise Oratour both labouring more and being better able to feed his Reader with the leaues of words flowers of Rhetorick then with the fruits of knowledge as also striving rather to oppresse the person of his adversary with false and proud reproches then to convince his tenet by sound Arguments and between a man sincerely zealous for the truth and by his simple solid dealing by the Scriptures as M. Yates doth giving testimony of his unfained loue thereof Which truth my prayer to God is that he with my selfe and all other so seeking it may find and therein accord in all things And for you my Christian friends towards whom for your persons I am minded even as when I lived with you be you admonished by me which I also entreat at the hands of the Lord on your behalfe that you carefully beware lest in any thing you fall from your stedfastnesse but on the contrary grow in grace and in the knowledge and obedience of the Lord Iesus in his whole revealed will And let me the more earnestly exhort you hereunto by how much the contrary evill is the more both dangerous common A man may fall forward and in so doing endanger his hands and face but in falling backward the danger is farre greater as wee see in old Eli of whom we read that he fell backward and his necke brake and he died 1. Sam. 4.18 And how common a thing it is for men amongst you and the whole land thorough in their declining age to decline in grace wofull experience teacheth there being few old Disciples to be found vvho in their age do hold the same temper of zeale and goodnesse which they had upon them in their yonger times this being one maine reason thereof That the meanes amongst you are farre more for conversion then preservation and for birth then nourishment Whereas they by the Lords gracious dispensation in the orderly state of things who are planted in the house of the Lord in the Courts of our God shall flourish yea shall sprout in old age and are fat and greene to shew that the Lord is iust and with him is none unrighteousnesse Psalm 92. Of this grace he vvho is the Authour and finisher of our faith make both you and us partakers alwayes Amen Iohn Robinson AN ANSWERE TO THE ARGVMENTS laid downe by Mr. Iohn Yates Preacher in Norwich to proue ordinary Prophesie in publick out of office vnlawfull answered by Iohn Robinson ARG. 1. Mr. I. Yates FROM the Commission of Christ Ioh. 20 v. 21 22 23 all Prophesie in publick is to remit retain sins Chr. grants this power to none but such as he sends v. 21. ordains thereunto v. 22. But men out of office are neither sent nor ordayned thereunto therefore in publick ought not to meddle with the power of the keyes I know the exception will bee this that many out of office haue prophesied the Scripture approving it I answer An ordinary rule is never infringed by an extraordinary example but ever by an ordinary To marry my sister is incest yet in Cain it was no incest because the example was extraordinary I may not steale and yet it was lawfull for the Iewes to rob the Egiptians because that was Gods extraordinary permission Extraordinary examples as they make no rules so they breake none but ordinary examples must ever follow the rule and if they doe not they breake it Christ therefore laying down a perpetuall rule of binding and loosing to all such as are sent and ordained either by himselfe immediatly or by such as he shall