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A03304 The preachers plea: or, A treatise in forme of a plain dialogue making known the worth and necessary vse of preaching: shewing also how a man may profit by it, both for the informing of his iudgement, and the reforming of his life. By Samuel Hieron minister of the gospell at Modbury in the countie of Deuon. Hieron, Samuel, 1576?-1617. 1604 (1604) STC 13419; ESTC S116029 122,151 274

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