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A49336 A letter to Edw. Stillingfleet, D.D. &c. in answer to the epistle dedicatory before his sermon, preached at a publick ordination at St. Peter's Cornhil, March 15, 1684/5 together with some reflections upon certain letters, which Dr. Burnet wrote on the same occasion / by Simon Lowth ... Lowth, Simon, 1630?-1720. 1687 (1687) Wing L3328; ESTC R2901 83,769 93

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is You make Bishops for her as the Common-wealth-men make Kings by Accumulation not Deprivation in your Expressions just now mention'd and consequently retaining the Power entire to themselves they unmake them again when they please or to express it farther in your own words which are the aptest I have met withal When Persons and Circumstances Prudence and Discretion or the Interest of the Government requires it And so the Bishop like those inferior Officers of old as Sub-Deacons Acolouthi Door-keepers c. may be outed as the Perpetual Presbyter shall see occasion Mr. Prolocutor to the Assembly-men at Westminster never spake more bravely to the point And to fix all this surely on the less wary and inconsiderate Reader as a Nail driven by the Masters of our Assembly also you bring in several of our own Bishops for evidence against themselves and their Order in the days of Edward VI. and our whole Church establish'd by Law in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth As is to be seen in your Manuscripts and those other Citations throughout your last Chapter And when you had with so much ease and scorn rejected the Doctrines of all the Primitive Bishops in the case it was no small piece of confidence to think to carry your Cause by the testimony whether true or false of our own Prelates of the last Age. But you are not content to overthrow their Order unless you may fix such a Scandal upon their Persons as the Betrayers of it And indeed your stating this case of the mutability of Episcopacy can be only a design to fool and baffle it and thereby render it a very Babel or Idol in the language of its madder Adversaries and in the conception of every one else so trivially accidental a thing that it cannot be really contended for upon a Church account every accident giving occasion though Prudence will always be pretended for its abolition And it is observable That there are not any of your judgment that conclude themselves under an obligation to adhere unto it any longer than it supports and serves them by the advantage of the secular Power As the Church is that Tree in the Psalmist so Episcopacy is one of its bearing Boughs in which you can be content to sit and sing so long as you fill your Pockets but when the gathering time is over it is to be cut down as that which cumbereth the ground And you plead the same express directions for it our Saviour once gave concerning the Fig-tree in the Gospel I 'll state it together with the Presbyterian and Episcopal Hypotheses thereby to make it obvious upon the naked prospect The Presbyterian asserts That each Presbyter hath the whole Power of the Ministry and is enabled to discharge every Church-Office and that a restraint or enlargement is sinful The Episcoparian asserts That this Power is placed in the Bishop and Presbyter but unequally And that the Bishop hath some instances of it peculiar to his Order as Prerogatives and Incommunicable which if laid aside will be Sacrilege in him as also if assumed by the Presbyter You assert all that in the Presbyter and lose all that from the Bishop that the Presbyter desires and contends for only here is the difference You allow the Presbytery upon some occasions and in some instances of their Office to make a Deputy with a reserved Power to recal the Deputation at pleasure or upon each suspicion of his undue behaviour And this is the honour and service you do the Church of England These the Dissenters you tell us you design'd to gain upon and that your design did not want success both here and in a neighbouring Kingdom If you mean our Northern Neighbours I hope Episcopacy is setled there upon better grounds if it be not some of the thanks for it are due to you If you mean our Neighbours in the South they came over indeed but it is with their own Presbyterian Orders which they still adhere to as their commission from Christ The Episcopal Ordination which they receive here only enabling them for the Loaves to which they could have no right otherways by the Laws of our Kingdom And accordingly D. Blondel first offer'd his assistance to Archbishop Laud to write in defence of our Episcopacy whilst it was uppermost but upon the ensuing Rebellion he deserted it nay he turn'd his weapons against it Witness his Apologia pro Hieronymo which he Dedicated to the Rebellious Parliament and Schismatical Assembly at Westminster owning thereby the Vsurpation of the Regal Power in one and of the Episcopal in the other Salmasius did in effect the same and within the space of four Years both applauds and condemns Episcopacy and the Rump Parliament for removing it according to his present subject and design and John Milton the worst of Men takes from thence a just occasion to harangue and vilifie him in the Preface to his worst of Books Entituled Pro Populo Anglicano Defensio And the reasons for it are plain as themselves state the case the Bishop's Consecration being only an humane Rite performed at his Deputation and Enlargment to the execution of that Power which he had before when he was made a Presbyter by virtue of which there is no farther power conferr'd but only a Church Blessing with Imposition of Hands a legally qualifying him for possession according to the particular custom of that Kingdom in which he is to exercise his Episcopal Function And lastly for our own Country-men it may be wished some of them have not on this score also received Episcopal Ordination and then they may be bound to thank you because they kept their Benefices thereby and had farther accession of Church Dignities upon his late Majesty's blessed return But I cannot think it is for this that your Superiors in the Church have for so long a time been pleased to treat you with that kindness you seem to boast of Sure I am all the kindness you have done hereby to the Church of England and her Bishops may be put in their Eyes and they see never the worse for it Tho' I will not say so of the unkindness she hath received from you Besides it will farther appear with what affection and byass you wrote this Treatise if we consider your different behaviour to the Bishops and Doctors of the Church of England and the Presbyterians Independents even Anabaptists and Quakers upon each occasion It is but a little to reflect upon those slender civilities which you shew all along to that great and eminent Divine Dr. Henry Hammond one that was every ways great and considerable provoking reverence and respect from his Adversaries that were in any measure civilized Such was his Learning Integrity Courage in those perillous times he lived in the Ark it self rested peculiarly upon his Shoulders But I say your unhandsom behaviour to him may easier be passed by because he was but one single Doctor in our Church you seem to treat him with
Church of England was burning and thereby had cut off all hope of a Reconciliation your Plot then it seems was not like to have Success and that the Bishop of Exon had not duly consulted the Reputation of Joseph Hall. And tho' it is really sad to consider That such eminent Professors are thus rudely treated yet there is some pleasure in reflecting with what sort of Arguments our Episcopacy was encountred in 1641. and the multitude thereby incensed and enraged against it and to me there is something peculiar in it because that your Advocate Dr. Burnet and your self have treated and opposed me at the same rate and upon the same occasion viz. Because I wrote as Bishop Hall did all the other concurring with him in defence of the Divine Right of Church-Power and Episcopacy How frequently do you upbraid me also in the same manner As that I am wanting of Prudence and common Discretion That few read my Book It can hurt no body but the Bookseller and my self but mostly the Bookseller because you have not heard that the Chancery ever gave Equity against an Author for an unsaleable Book That I and my Book are under great neglect That I discharge my spleen on two such eminent Men whose Works as well as their Persons will be had in honour long after both I and my Book shall be forgotten That I am indeed proud of assaulting two such eminent Men. My stile is unintelligible barbarous whose embellishments are not to be envied It is indeed hairy all over And so rough is the shag that it will not submit to the Discipline of a Comb. It is overgrown with Hair. In short I write neither True English nor Good Sense I do not produce one considerable Argument which you had not made use of to that purpose in a Discourse published above twenty years since But the Malice and Rage of Philadelphus doth not rest here in that he hath thus revile●●he Persons of so many of our most eminent Church men and represented them in their Offices as Tyrants and Usurpers over their fellow Brethren the Pastors of the Church but he goes on raving and running mad upon them as dangerous in respect of the State also to Kings and Secular Governours out of whose hands the Scepter will be wrested by them with the first opportunity as they have already snatch'd the Government of the Church from their fellow Presbyters so that the Kings of England are in danger by reason of the Episcopal Power here among us The Horse is already equipped and the Rider hath one foot in the stirrup And for proof of which he produces the very same impertinent Prophecy of Padre Paulo which you thought so considerable that it is in effect translated in the Irenicum and urged for the same purpose and withal to let the World know that it was the Opinion of wiser heads than your own That the Episcopacy in England was dangerous to the Monarchy of it as a step to that Pride and Ambition which at length would get the upper hand of it And all the difference betwixt you and him seems to be but this He had more discretion than to put his right Name to it I will here transcribe the whole Prophecy as it is placed in the Wast-page of his Book and leave it to others to judge how far thereby you have served the Church of England or rather Faction and Sedition and Schism and the Opposer of it tho' you pretend quite otherwise in your Epistle Dedicatory Anglis ego timeo Episcoporum magna illa potestas licet sub Rege prorsus mihi suspecta est ubi vel Regem facilem nacti fuerint vel magni spiritus Archiepiscopum habuerint Regia autoritas pessundabitur Episcopi ad absolutam Dominationem aspirabunt Ego equum ephippiatum in Anglia videre videor ascensurum propediem equitem antiquum divino Verum omma Divinae Providentiae subsunt But there is no wind that blows not some profit and I have hereby another advantage as to my own particular for nothing is more certain than that I did not take all those considerable Arguments which you allow to be in my Book out of the Irenicum it being my design and business there for several Sections to make it evident That Kings are in no danger by the Episcopal Power but on the contrary Episcopacy and Monarchy are every ways compitable and consistent they strengthen and support one another and were own'd so to be and to do by the Empire it self Dr. Burnet seems the honestest Man of the three because speaking out his mind and plainly unless he speak your sense too in that Paragraph and that he may easily be supposed to have done to be sure you approve of it in the Epistle Dedicatory and 't is very likely he was but your Journey-man for in his last Letter he tells us whose the Horse is thus fatal to our Troy and who equipped him and the particular Place and Person that our Bishops are riding whip and spur unto As for the Zeal that all this sort of Men pretend for the Crown the Book that is the foundation of this stir is a good indication of it There is another Sect besides Presbytery that has first wholly degraded Kings from their Ecclesiastical Supremacy and after that point was gain'd made them Reign at the mercy of the Church and at the Pope's courtesie It were too bold to attempt both at once and it is ingeniously enough done to seem to yield up the one wholly till the other is gain'd Pure Irenaeus Philadelphus who together with Doctor Burnet and the Rector of Sutton are the Triumvirate in the cause But as long as Archbishop Laud Bishop Montacute Bishop Andrews and Bishop Hall ride along with us we are well enough there is no true Church of England man will be ashamed of their company but will repute it his greatest honour and triumph And as to that which the Doctor adds here viz. That I fall so evidently under a Praemunire as he hears an honourable person has observed That I owe my not being questioned for it to his Majesty's Clemency I could Cap it with that I heard an honourable person observe upon him That for Six Pence Barbara a noted Scold in the neighborhood would answer my Book better than he hath done But I am not now inclined to so much mirth Tho' it may not be in raillery to consider what black guilt and worser malignancy Dr. Burnet's Crimes were made up of which Charles the Merciful could not forgive but banished him his Royal Palaces of Whitehal and St. James's many years since and a little before his death by his own Royal Edict silenced him at the Rolls and since England is become too hot for him But what can be expected from Men of this complexion who answer Books made up of matter of Fact and Argument with only Revilings and personal Defamations Or indeed from your self in particular when
to their Matter and Argument but never repute a nick-name or cramp Epithete a Confutation of their Adversary And again I less admire your inconsiderateness in that you accuse so eminent an Order of Divines of rudeness in their disputations at the same time when you implead me as guilty of the same misdemeanor in respect of your self and aggravate it against me as the greatest crime Besides you seem mostly peccant herein having been so peculiarly beholden to the Schoolmen for your palmarium argumentum or capital Argument as you call it for the mixt and communicative power of Bishops and Presbyters for they were the first that set that design on foot and their Arguments still support it to which you adhere to this day Do you not boast and value your self upon that one adventure It appears by the Epistle Dedicatory that you do where you tell us That the design of it was to gain upon Dissenters from our Church and it did not want success that way both here and in a neighbour Kingdom I thought our Church and the Pope of Rome had never gain'd Proselytes one and the same way All that can with any shew be pleaded for you is you look'd upon Peter Lombard and Thomas Aquinas the Master of the Sentences and the Angelical Doctor to be Country Vicars or to be no Deans and upon your self as under no obligation of gratitude or common civility towards them for that only reason and hence concluded that you had a right to theirs equally as to my Arguments and so much the more because you can put them into better words your stile is less barbarous or has more embellishments And if you hope this way to recommend your self as a pattern to posterity tho' my Charity obliges me to wish them better presidents to copy after I shall not envy your acquisitions I assure you the bar you have put that I may not be the like pattern is no ways ingrateful to me All that I aim at is to appear to posterity an honest Man in my profession your giant Objection will then be on my side And admit my stile to be as rude and barbarous as your Eloquence can represent it to be the advantage will be the greater thereby to that truth which tho' so rudely composed the greatest Orators have offer'd so little against And this point once gain'd I value no more the repute of a Grammarian or Elegant Composer than the Grammarian in Aelian valued Helena's Picture that was drawn by Zeuxes the Painter who discern'd no one feature in it being a Gramarian no Limner as the reason is given And yet if we consider a little farther another reason may be given for this your Master-Objection You were an early Disciple of David Blondel's and the rest of that Tribe who assaulted the Epistles of the most Holy and Primitive Martyr St. Ignatius at the same rate And among those many Arguments from whence he concluded them to be spurious wherein you have particularly concurr'd with him in your Irenicum and I wish it were all the rubbish he bequeathed to you there are some à dictione petita from his unusual and uncouth stile which he defames and renders contemptible being unmindful of that of St. Jerome Scio inter Christianos verborum vitia non solere reprehendi as the late most Learned Bishop of Chester reproves him for it from the authority of that excellent Father in his Vindiciae Ignatianae And Blondell is so insolent and puffed up with a conceit of his success herein against the Apostolical Martyr that in his Praefatio ad Apologiam pro sententia Hieronymi pag. 52. he sets upon Franciscus de Clara in the same way and concludes himself to have baffled his Apology for Bishops only by giving an account of his solecisms in Grammar and other barbarities of which I have here given a taste * En Barbarismos viz. Satis testium sunt Zelotes In recto regiam petierunt Majestatem Veriverbium sonat Ecclesiae gubernium Primitas Practica Ecclesiae Maxima id est axioma Verbulum Dubiolum vocat quod postea pro grandi objectione habet Nihil sanxierunt Epilogat Amonibiles c. Though I cannot tell whether something else might not be at the bottom For de Clara writes himself Minoritarum which sounds like a Vicar I have sometimes met with more solid and grave Divines or at least that believ'd themselves such who call their Adversaries Grammarians thereby implying the contempt they had of their persons as altogether unqualified for those performances in Divinity in which they had engaged themselves As I remember either Blondell or Salmasius or both thus revile Dr. Hammond But for certain Salmasius is thus upbraided by John Milton who thought himself somebody in his Pro populo Anglicano defensio as also our most learned Bishop Montacute by Labbee in his Dissertatio Historica de Scriptoribus Ecclesiasticis But your greatness or Typus Theologicus takes a contrary method becomes Splenetick and swells and insults over me with this term of disgrace No Grammarian and because I have less regarded words and embellishments since matter of Fact and Argument are the only object of my search and enquiry to which you have not made one exception But my matter is accused as unintelligible to which I 'll return the Answer Mr. Thorndike gave for himself upon the same occasion in the Preface to his Epilogue The obscurity of my matter I am not sorry for if writing in English because here the occasion commenceth the reasons if the consequence of it in some matters seem obscure I conceive it ought to teach the world That the People are made parties to those Disputes whereof they are not able to be judges and I am willing to bear the blame of obscure if that lesson may be learned by the People My crime is more heightned yet in that I am not only rude with my Brethren but with two Archbishops and a Bishop viz. Whitgift Bancroft and Bilson whom I remarque for writing inconsiderately I am sorry that a Man of your Dignity and reputed Learning in the Church should be brought so low as to stand in need of such a palpable Cavil or groundless Accusation as this is your case surely is the same with that of a great person you elsewhere mention who when he had undertaken to manage an ill cause before a publick audience and one of his Friends asked him what he meant by it replied Trouble not your self our own side will believe me Only such a presumption could put you upon this particular indictment of me In plea to which I will only tell the naked story and leave the Reader to judge of your candid dealings with me Robert Parker one that ought not to be named by an honest Man but with a mark of infamy accused these eminent Bishops for placing the Church Authority in the Prince I vindicated them as well as I could and as I thought satisfactorily All that
disdain tho' all things consider'd there was then as great a distance betwixt him and the Rector of Sutton as there is now betwixt the Vicar of Cosmus Blene and the Dean of St. Paul's you reject at once his Five and thirty Testimonies produced out of St. Ignatius in the behalf of Episcopacy as inconluding Even that one which seems to have some Semblance you say is clearly mistaken and your proof is so precarious and inconsistent that there needs no other evidence of your partiality and that your Plot was only to expose Him and the Cause Part. II. c. 6. § 17. p. 309. And no wonder when you have rejected Ignatius himself as Spurious and Counterfeit and the story of him as much as it is defended with his Epistles as not to seem any of the most probable placing it among the uncertain fabulous narrations of Antiquity § 16. p. 298. When you have derided all Antiquity at once you go on against our most worthy Doctor rejecting what is offer'd by him as that which hath neither evidence nor pertinency enough to stop the passage of one who is returning to his former matter that is in plain English it is not worth the consideration of your pondering self imployed on a more pertinent and advantageous subject and which hath better motives of credibility Sect. 9. pag. 260. You farther yet represent him if possible more contemptible and as one that betrays the Reformation by his infirm Hypothesis which was built upon reasons of greater strength and evidence than what he hath pleaded § 9. p. 258. Once more and which may go for all You represent him as a Rattle Head without any shew or appearance of Reason and his performance with the embellishment of your rare Similitude is thus expressed Only the Wind-Egg of a working Fancy that wants a shell of Reason to cover it When all may be true that he there asserts notwithstanding your Eight Reasons that are brought against it Cap. 6. § 3. However your Metaphor is to be admired especially for the great humility of it It is not like that lofty Similitude some have used borrowed from a Crowned Head but from an Egg shell and nothing but another of your own can parallel it only the strain is a little higher and you strike at all Mankind therewith which doth not think opine reason in the words of the Leviathan and with the same haughtiness as you do Which prejudice being the Yellow-Jaundice of the Soul leaves such a Tincture upon the Eyes of the understanding that till it be cured of that Icterism it cannot see things in their proper colours Sect. 2. c. 5. p. 200. You go on from Dr. Hammond to the whole Church of England which you hit at one blow and enquiring more strictly into the causes of the great Distances and Animosities which have risen upon this Controversie you fix upon the Episcopal Men as the Troublers of Israel whom you thus divide Those whom the prevalency of Faction and Interest over-ruled their Revenues having come from the Rents of the Church which is the odious old way of Characterizing for scorn and contempt to the People the ancient and zealous Bishops and Clergy of our Church and others of greater Integrity you mean that were less Covetous and Rapacious and believed their Order to be more than their Revenues but descend also with this false Principle or Hypothesis which Men are apt to take for granted without proving it viz. That it is in no case lawful to vary from that Form which by obscure and uncertain Conjectures they conceive to have been the Primitive Practice Part I. c. 1. § 1. p. 4. And as you begin so you end fixing this farther Character upon them in your last Chapter I know it is the last Asylum which many run to meaning such as found all things upon a Divine Right when they are beaten off from their Imaginary Fancies by pregnant testimonies of Scripture and Reason to shelter themselves under the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of some particular persons to which their understandings are bored in perpetual Slavery But if Men would once think their understandings at age to judge for themselves and not make them live under a perpetual Pupillage c. rendering hereby our most eminent Clergy as such Ignaro's that they understand not the State of their own Church which they have Subscribed and Sworn unto and as she determined in the days of Edward VI. and Queen Elizabeth from pag. 384. to p. 394. And the greatest part of that Chapter is spent in representing our Bishops and Doctors to be against themselves to their manifest injury reproach and dishonour as I shall make it appear in publick in a very little time if God continue me Life and Health And if at any time you give a Church of England Man his due or a favourable Character it is when he is on your side or the question of Divine Right is not under debate or you design thereby to advance your own cause and you range him with our Reverend and Learned Mr. Baxter in his Christian Concord and then he must be a pure Church of England Man in your conceptions of him But when you have to deal with any of the other Parties even to Anabaptists and Quakers your behaviour towards them is after another rate you argue as one that is evidently biassed and with apparent shews of tenderness and affection the same hand and at the same time grants their pardon that contends with and opposes them They are not represented to be the Men that are over-ruled by Faction and Interest or their Church Rents with understandings bored in perpetual slavery but as Men of great Moderation whose Errors are the Religious weakness of well-meaning but less knowing People Part I. c. 2. § 11. pag. 63. to 70. c. 6. § 4.7 pag. 122 128 c. Part II. c. 7. § 2. pag. 339 348 c. In short in the very first Chapter of your Book you appear particularly cautious of preserving your reputation entire with the Presbyterian Party at least the mobile of them and confess so much in your Epistle Dedicatory to my Lord of London acquainting his Lordship That when you set your self to answer their Arguments for a Perpetual Right of Presbyterian Parity you did it without mentioning their Books The meaning of which can only be this That it was done with as little disadvantage to the Party as you could That you made no such signal Remarks Exclamations and Excursions against the Divine Right of Presbytery and its Maintainers as you did against the Divine Right of Episcopacy and those that asserted it Nay you state the case and apply it directly and solely against Episcopacy or a Superiority of Order and Jurisdiction over the Pastors of the Church Sect. 8. p. 25. which was not fair nor consequently a due means to bring those over to a compliance to the Church of England then likely to be re-established
it self Pag. 134. you seem at least too unwary in your Expression asserting That if the whole Nation in Parliament consent to the passing a Law for removal of Pastors and putting in of others this is sufficient for the satisfaction of that People to whom they are appointed as Pastors by virtue of that Power or for the making them true Pastors I yield that the right of Investiture is originally in the Secular hand and by consequence the right of deprivation upon the breach of those terms on which the Investiture is made Thus Abiathar was removed and Zadok put in his room But the question is supposing Zadok had not been of the Priestly Line Whether Solomon's placing him in the High-Priest's Chair did by virtue of his Kingly Power alone create him High-Priest and the People were thereupon bound to own and submit to his Ministry Or to bring an instance nearer home supposing an Act of Parliament appoint a certain Person to be Minister in such a Parish when he is really no Minister because without Ordination from a Bishop Whether by virtue of that Law he is made a true Minister and ought to be received as such by that People to whom by Act of Parliament he is sent No understanding Christian will own him as his Minister upon such terms We have a great instance of this nature in the Church of Scotland about Fourteen Years since The Secular Power commanded Dr. Burnet Archbishop of St. Andrews to admit into particular Churches and in the relation of Ministers certain Men that had no Episcopal Orders and by consequence were not of the Gospel Priesthood the most excellent and exemplary Prelate refused for this reason Because the Prince may promote to what temporal Possessions he please but he cannot promote to the Authority which is Spiritual as to the former he must be submitted to but not as to the latter And his Lordship was a great example of the last case for denying their Institution he was Suspended from his Bishoprick and sustained it with a due resignation tho' the Government upon second thoughts restored him with greater honour and estimation in which he died But as to the more immediate question and which occasioned this Section you ought to have urged That the consent of the People did not constitute a Minister neither was it any necessary qualification in order to it as Mr. Baxter and his Combination pretended But instead of doing this you reply That an Act of Parliament is sufficient to constitute him such which savours too much of the old Vessel I confess the consequents would be really evil in the Government both of Church and State if he be an Usurper in a Parish to whom the People do not consent the disorders thereby must become intolerable and the consequents would be as noxious on the other hand if the Parliament had the Power of qualifying for it For then the Ministry will be quite swallowed up in the State and every Usurper be his Religion what it will may alter the Priesthood or as in the days of Jeroboam make Priests of whom he please But thus it fares with your Arguments and it is their usual fault That they prove too much You take away Infallibility and the Ministry at once in other places and maintain here the Secular Power to the destruction of the Spiritual I 'll receive him in Seculars whom my Prince is pleased to set over me but none in Spirituals who hath not an Authority which the Secular hand cannot derive unto him 5. But that which crowns all is Pag. 300. when you scatter those mists which some pretend to have before their Eyes that they cannot clearly see what we mean by the Church of England and tell us it is so called because it was received by the common consent of the whole Nation in Parliament Surely if now we be not a Parliament Church we never were in the opinion of any nor ever shall be Should any Man ask me what the Church of England is I would tell him It is that due Succession of Authority Doctrine Worship and Discipline which are now made Law in the Kingdom of England but if that Law ceaseth to own and protest them I should not thereby think it to become less the Church of England For certain there was a Church of England when there was no Parliaments in England according to those who carry their aera or date to the highest pitch And we say There was the very Church of England that now is and neither Parliament nor Pope had appeared in our Coast Besides What if the Parliament of England pass a Bill of Abjuration against the present Church as they did the other day against the Crown of England The Rump Parliament did it Why then your definition of the Church of England is much at the same as Socrates defined a Man Homo est Animal bipes implume A Man is a living Creature with two Feet and without Feathers Diogenes's Jackdaw was as good a Man when he had pluckt his Feathers off The being of the Church of England does not depend upon any such outward advantages or upon the Votes of the People whether in Parliament or out of it We thankfully own the outward advantages she has had and now enjoys by Parliaments but we own withal her separate Being abstracted from them the Church of God here in England is antecedent to them all One while I was willing to think That this Book was wrote by you at a time when the general design was on Foot for enlarging the Privileges of Parliaments or rather of the House of Commons by the Men of Shaftsbury and you might think your self engaged to cast in something and if so you add that which is very considerable making the Being of the Church of England to depend upon their owning and acceptance of it The Kingdom must have Parliaments once a Year at least only for this for otherwise we may have no Church once a Year But then again this seems not to be the reason because I find you to have been of the same Judgment some years before and you reckon up this among the Encroachments and Usurpations of the Bishop of Rome and spoil thereby a good cause viz. That Acts of Parliament were no certain indications of the Judgment of the Church or the generality of the People in that time Answer to Mr. Cressy's Epistle Apologetical c. pag. 448. I must therefore conclude that you were somewhat discomposed neither is this the only unwary expression you have let fall within the distance of one or two Pages For you there mix the Pastors and People together as of the same Church diffusive You say farther That to assert in every Church a constitutive regent part as essential to it is the same as the Pope's universal Pastorship And again That the Acts of the Convocation are to be allow'd and enacted by the King and the three States of the Kingdom Flatly against the King's Prerogative in making Church-Laws by the Convocation alone As also your term National Church is as incongruous as any National Congregational Classical are Relatives and give life to one another 6. It doth not appear why you Reprinted that scandalous Manuscript which so immediately opposeth all Church-Power in the utmost latitude of it and by the Authority of so many of our most eminent Reformers Nay farther with an artifice to conceal Archbishop Cranmer's Retraction unless it be to give all the seeming Authority you could to the Doctrines there asserted There is not one Note in the Margent by which it appears that you had then altered your first conceptions of it as Printed in the Irenicum Nay you have own'd and justified it in part in your Epistle to my Lord of London or if there be any alteration made it is least there might be occasion to suspect that Cranmer had deserted you 3. And in the last place you have made no satisfaction at all to the Church of God for that Irenicum Doctrine which equals the Presbyter with the Bishop There is not any thing like amends for it in all your writings that I have met with It is true you often speak of Episcopacy as the most ancient Government derivable from the Apostles But you have not any where asserted it in the number of those Institutions and Practices Apostolical which are perpetual and immutable And until you say this all you can say besides is to no purpose The Bishop is notwithstanding at the mercy of your Prince or your Presbyters when their prudence sees fit to degrade and depose him There is no more Obligation to continue the distinct order of Bishops than that order of Widows in the Epistle to Timothy And thus Sir I have shew'd that you have not made due satisfaction for those errors in your Irenicum concerning the Power of the Church in general and the constitution of our Church in particular of which I accused you in my Letter dated May 1. 1682. I have also shew'd more at large the grounds of my Accusation I beg only this Favour of you That if you think fit to return an Answer you will do it in a Scholar-like way i. e. by Argument and Matter of Fact not Raylings and Nick-names it is really below your quality in the Church to Act Andrew Marvel It was thought by J. O. to be a thing below him And therefore we know on whom he set that Buffoon when his case was much at one with yours and he wanted argument Besides tho' Dr. Burnet was pleased to assign me the Province yet I am not at leasure to catch Flies But if you keep to these terms I shall certainly make a reply and you will thereby oblige Novemb. 6. 1685. Reverend Sir Your Humble Servant SIMON LOWTH FINIS