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A07806 An exact discoverie of Romish doctrine in the case of conspiracie and rebellion by pregnant obseruations: collected (not without direction from our superiours) out of the expresse dogmaticall principles of popish priests and doctors. Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1605 (1605) STC 18184.5; ESTC S113001 24,569 35

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Monke doth murther his King The best word the Pope affoordeth the murthered is An vnhappie King and one perishing in his sinne The worst he ●oth bestow vpon the murtherer is Religious man And thus in not condemning but rather commending one traitour he hath made vp two Lastly this Henrie a note very materiall was a Papist onely he fauoured the Protestants and especially Prince Nauarre because a Protestant excommunicate By this Pope this was his crime vpon which ensued This fact to paraphrase truly of the Popes words rare for the attempt notable for the wickednes memorable for the shame of the Sect. The eighth Reason Those Snakes that do naturally sting as soone as they get warmth may not be harboured in the bosome of the Common-wealth But all popish priests professe rebellions as soone as they can presume of their strength Ergo c. The Minor proued by Their Positions Bannes maintaineth this as a necessarie parenthesis Subiects before sentence of excommunication if they haue sufficient force may then depose their King This Father Creswell addeth as a warie caution Let subiects take heede saith he that they haue competent strength in such case otherwise it may preiudice the Catholique cause And least any taking an Antidote against their poison should obiect the condition of the Church of Christ primitiue and of the glorious Christians in those times who intended not killing of Kings the enemies of the Gospell but to be willingly killed for the profession of the holy faith marke with what vntemperate morter these men daube vp the consciences of Christians Then saith the French Defence the Christians did only suffer because the Church was not yet perfect and because their enemies were more in number Againe It is commendable to suffer when thou canst not resist Which is the last miserable refuge of their desperate cause Whereunto notwithstanding their grand Cardinall is glad to betake himselfe I answere saith he that Christians in ancient times did not beare armes and seeke to depose Emperours and Kings enemies to the Catholique faith because they wanted power Whereby the now Romish faith doth seeke to make wicked men excuseable By this second conclusion saith Bannes the English Catholikes who now doe not take armes against the Protestants are excused because they want sufficient power Hence we may perceiue that that as long as Protestants liue safe they must acknowledge thēselues beholden to the Popish faction because they haue no power to hurt them otherwise they may heare of thē before they can see them peraduenture in such manner as to Receiue a terrible blow and yet not know who did them the hurt Yea they must perish for Christian people saith Creswell are bound in conscience and hazard of their soules whensoeuer they can make resistance These are yet positions Now Their Practise In the yeere 1580. when Campion and Parsons came into England they procured a dispensation from the Pope that all Papists in England notwithstanding the excommunication of the Queene might professe a large obedience in all temporall causes but with this addition Rebus sic stantibus The case thus standing that is as the sequell did interprete till you waxe stronger for in the yeere 1588. when the Spanish Armado was a flote when by doubling their strength they might presume of the better then our Countriman Allen doth write an Admonition to the Nobilitie of England making his booke the Popes Nuncio to expound his former parenthesis Though the Pope saith he hath tolerated obedience vnto the Queene in temporall conditions yet now our holy Father Xistus Quintus doth discharge all men of their faith and loyaltie vnto her This is the Popes common guise when he doubteth his faction shall be ouermatched then to inioyne obedience but it is onely in policie to gaine his souldiers a breathing as Clement the late Pope dispensed with the Irish for their fidelitie to the Queene till that he had some confidence of Tyrones successe For then in the 20. of Ianuary the yeere 1601. writ a letter for incouragement Fili dilecte nobilis vir salutem c. My deare sonne all health c. After he calleth the rebellion Sacrū foedus An holy league promising in the way of blessing an happy successe Deus pugnabit pro vobis conteret inimicos suos ante faciem vestram God will fight for you and tread your enemies vnder your feete But he God be thanked prooued a false Prophet The ninth Reason Whosoeuer doth perfidiously either denie or violate with men of diuers religion an oath the most sacred bond that God hath allotted vnto men as the most secure confirmation of all fidelitie with men and end of all contention must necessarily be esteemed of them as a person perfidious and treacherous but Popish priests are guiltie of such perfidie Ergo c. The Minor will appeare in these three 1. In the manner of disallowing 2. Of deluaing 3. Of dissoluing of a necessarie oath From the manner of denying a requisite oath we reason Whatsoeuer seruant being demanded of his master to say or sweare whether if he saw his master assaulted by his professed enemies he would defend or betray him would either dislike the article or deferre his answere he should euidently bewary a treacherous disposition But all Popish priests in like articles concerning loyall subiection to Protestant Kings are in like manner affected Ergo all their other kinde of Haile Master is but to kisse and betray The Minor prooued By their positions and practises When as it is demanded of Priests a necessarie article in ciuill states what if the Pope should authorise the Queenes subiects to rebell or other forraine Princes to inuade her realme whether they would take part with the Queene or her enemies First they dislike this interrogatorie Allen calleth it An vnlawfull vnnaturall intolerable search of mens consciences This kinde of examination which Princes make for preseruation of the liues of themselues and subiects Creswell termeth Vniust and bloody demands And these questions Stapleton nameth Captious questions wicked and full of all impious subtiltie As though Sampson were bound to put his head in Dalilahs lap Nay but their answere sheweth that this interrogatorie was as necessarily inuented as it is wicked impugned For this being an inbred law of Nature to studie for a selfe preseruation these men call iniust and vnnaturall But how sensleslie let the very Heathen iudge Theeues watch to murder doest thou not awake to saue thy selfe Now secondly their delaying When the question is vrged whether if the Pope or any by his appointment should inuade the land which part they would take then they shift footing and some as our Gouernours haue obserued haue answered I wil then take counsell when the case shall happen others I will answere then and not before others I am not yet resolued lastly I shall then doe as
limit him lawes at their pleasure The French Iesuite sheweth a reason For maiestie saith he is rather seated in the kingdome than in the King Like to Stapleton his glosse People are not ordained for the Prince but the Prince for the people But more finely Reinalds A King is but a creature of mans creation Secondly the Pope To auouch his preeminence these men goe beyond the Moone as first Bozius The Pope the head of the Church hath power in all temporall causes and states This is true saith Bellarmine vnderstood indirectly as it may auaile for the spirituall good In briefe This supremacie of the Pope saith Stapleton is a doctrine to be holden of all Christians vpon paine of damnation and separation from the Church of God We demaund how farre th●se pretended powers may extend and hereupon we argue The third Reason Whosoeuer vpon any pretended supremacie whether of Pope or people d●e denie the necessarie right of Election or of succession of Protestant Princes are to be holden amongst all Protestants seditious but all popish priests doe vtterly abolish the title of succession in all Protestant Princes by pretended prerogatiue of Pope and people Ergo. The Minor prooued by their positions In Election 1. The Romish Cardinall There is no election whether of King or Emperour of any force if he that is elect such they esteeme all Protestants be excommunicate In Succession Reinalds The right of Kings Christian must depend rather vpon their religion than vpon order of succession and therefore all Christians are bound to cut off all hope least that any such speaking of Protestants may aspire to the Throne Otherwise saith Stapleton what do people else but euen preferre man before God Hereupon doth Simancha conclude that the kingdome of an Heretique departed doth lineally descend vpon his sonne but if the sonne in the race royall be heretical the Catholique Common-weale may chuse a Catholique Prince but if also the kingdome be hereticall then the choice of the King belongeth to the Pope and so the kingdome may be taken by Catholiques And least peraduenture any should consent to the lawfull succession Father Parsons doth pronounce sentence Whosoeuer shall consent to the succession of a Protestant is a most grieuous and damnable sinner Thus farre of the position Now behold their Practise 1. In France Reinalds doth forewarne the French Will ye proclaime Nauarre a Caluinist King of the most Christian kingdome of France What is this else than to aduance a dogge to be soueraigne ouer men Shall Catholiques pray God saue that King whom they may not admit into their houses For suppose saith Father Creswell that hee professe to bring in a more sound religion what is this to the purpose he is bound to defend the Romish faith From France we will returne home where Father Parsons busieth himselfe to disable the title of succession of our most dread Soueraigne King Iames with intent to aduance the Infanta of Spaine thereunto Thus much of Successors now of possessors The fourth Reason When the King is established in his Throne by common consent of the kingdome whosoeuer shall manacle the hands of his subiects detracting all obedience may iustly by order of law be challenged and condemned for a disordered and rebellious person But all popish priests doe dissolue the oath of obedience to all Protestant gouernours Ergo. The Minor proued by Their Positions First one of their Bishops resolueth that As soone as a Christian King becomes hereticall foorthwith people are freed from subiection Secondly their Cardinall As long as the Prince continueth excommunicate the subiect is freed from the oath of subiection By whom are they freed By the Pope saith the Iesuite who vpon iust cause hath power to absolue from oathes both himselfe and all others Sometime the Prince is personallie excommunicate what then Then saith their Lawyer subiects are freed from their allegeance and all his hereticall assistants to be rooted out and their land to be exposed to be possessed of Strangers Catholiques But how if he be not excommunicate by name Yea what though not excommunicate If saith another his heresie be publiquely knowne there needeth no pronunciation of the sentence of excommunication So that saith the Iesuite subiects may lawfully denie him obedience How so For the euidence of the crime saith their whole Schoole doth inferre a sentence of condemnation because as the more common opinion defineth there must wee vnderstand the Pope his will is to haue him excommunicate whom vpon the knowledge of his fault he would excommunicate Say Father Creswell is this true It is certaine and of faith auouched by the vniuersall voice of Schooles Satisfie vs yet in one question more Suppose that the Protestant Prince haue a iust quarrell what then No warre can be lawfully denounced or waged by the Queene being excommunicate by name though otherwise in it selfe it were most iust because her power is vnlawfull Thus farre of the Positions Practise First Pope Gregorie the 7. alias Hildebrand beginneth his Pageant We by Apostolicall authoritie doe absolue al from their oathes which they haue giuen to persons excommunicate And another Gregorie vseth the like tenour We absolue c. in the same case Lastly Pius Quintus their successor in place but superiour in malice We commaund all subiects saith he c. and absolue them from the faith they haue plight with Elizabeth their Queene We haue alreadie vnderstood how they forbid obedience to Kings Now will we examine how they also inforce violence and in this case we argue thus The fifth Reason Whosoeuer suggesteth a doctrine of forcible deposing of Princes from their Thrones are therein manifestly rebellious But all Popish priests defend violent deposing of Kings and Emperours Ergo. Their positions Costerus This power saith he of deposing Kings of their Crownes and Emperours of their dignities in behalfe of the good of the Church was alwaies peculiar to the Pope Who hath no lesse authoritie as Christs Vicar ouer Christians than the hireling hath ouer his beasts So the Pope hath authoritie ouer the Emperor saith Molina because the Emperour is but the Popes minister and is to vse his temporall sword only at his beck But what if Kings will not inthrall themselues to the Popes authoritie It is not lawfull for Christians saith the Cardinall to tolerate anie King who draweth his subiects vnto heresie But subiects ought saith Saunders to endeuour to set vp another in his place Yea they ought saith Creswell to expell him out of his kingdome as the enemie of Christ. An vndoubted doctrine among the learned and agreeable to Apostolicall truth Yea which is more Although the Pope saith Bannes should tolerate an hereticall King yet may the Common-wealth remoue him And yet behold a greater mysterie of this