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A50025 The history of the divorce of Henry VIII and Katharine of Arragon with the defence of Sanders, the refutation of the two first books of The history of the reformation of Dr. Burnett / by Joachim le Grand ; with Dr. Burnett's answer and vindication of himself.; Histoire du divorce de Henry VIII, roy d'Angleterre, et de Catherine d'Arragon. English Le Grand, Joachim, 1653-1733. 1690 (1690) Wing L960; ESTC R12003 14,775 16

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of Knowledge and Capacity which come to my just share especially now that I have to do with a person of so mean a Talent as M. Le Grand appears to be by this same Treatise of his I could only wish that they who would be better inform'd of the truth of that celebrated Passage of the History which is the Subject of our Dispute would give themselves the trouble to read what Sanders and my self have written and then peruse the History of M. Le Grand I am assur'd they will conclude That there must be some fault in the Title Page where he promises the Defence of Sanders and the Refutation of the Two first Books of my History The whole substance of his Work agrees altogether with mine unless it be in some parts where he shews that great Art of his wh●rein I yield him willingly to out-do me In all things else he so perfectly concurrs with me that I am tempted to believe He only took his Pen in hand to fulfil those Offers which he made me in your Presence to furnish me with Memoirs sufficient for the Confirmation of what I have wrote upon this Subject True it is I have not read any more as yet than the First Part of his Book nor can I imagine how he can justifie Sanders whom he has abandon'd during the whole course of his History He forsakes him in the whole History of Ann of Boloigne and in all the progresses of the Story that depends upon it though it be the chief Head of Sanders's Accusation and which he presses most vigorously as being a Nullity in the Title of Queen Elizabeth and consequently an Original pretence for Rebellion He acknowledges also the Decretal Bull nor does he insist upon the Carriage of Sr. Thomas Moore In a word if you examine the Fourscore Faults of which I have accus'd Sanders in my Additions you will find that M. Le Grand has confessed above Seventy and confirms what I have maintained in opposition to him Which will most evidently appear if his work shall ever be thought worthy a larger Examination I say nothing of his Stile for that his Readers without much consideration or study will easily find it to be the Stile rather of an Advocate that pleads a Cause than of a person disinterested that cordially and barely relates matter of Fact For to argue with heat and passion and reproach his Adversaries are unpardonable faults in an Historian Besides that there is something so sacred in the very Ashes of Kings that they are never to be spok'n of but with great Caution and if at any time there be an unavoidable occasion to blame some of their Actions softer Terms are to be made use of than those of Lye and Imposture Add to this that the principal Point and upon which the whole Question moves being Whether the King 's own Cause ought not rather to be judged in England and by his Clergy than at Rome and in the Consistory that man can never be thought to act conformably to the Gallican Church who takes part with the Pope upon this occasion It is rather to be wondered at that at a time when there is so little respect given at Versailles to the Vatican Thunder and where the ancient Custom is renewed of appealing from the Pope to the General Council I say it is a wonder at such a time as this a Subject of this nature should not be handled with more freedom and sincerity Perhaps this is one of the little Tricks of those sort of People which M. Talon has more frankly described than I have a design to do who make hideous portraictures of the Actions of Henry VIII to observe the glory of those of Lewis the Great And perhaps our Author is neither so great a Politician nor so well knowing in Affairs as to have such distant prospects in his Eyes or else this work being his first Essay he did not study the Point with that Application which was requisite believing that trouble to no purpose while he has to do with a person that gives no better proofs of his Understanding than my self I shall therefore insist only upon six of his principal Errors which are nothing to the great number of mistakes which he has committed and which I could easily make appear had I the Liberty to enlarge my self in a writing that must be inserted into the Vniversal Library I. He calls in question the Contents of the Decretal Bull which Cardinal Campeggio brought upon this Ground That having been only shewn to the King and Cardinal Woolsey no Body can tell what it was and if it had been a definitive Sentence in that matter the Legates Commission had been at an end and the King would have contracted his Second Marriage as formerly Lewis the XII did without expecting any other proceedings Had Monsieur Le Grand given himself the trouble to read that Bull which I have published he might have spar'd himself so many useless Remarks The Bull was contriv'd in England and sent to Rome where though some few Alterations were made it appeared nevertheless by all the Letters that were written reciprocally from Rome and England that the Bull which was given to Compeggio was in substance the same Certain it is that Bull declared the King's Pretences to be just gave power to the Legates to examine the Truth of them and to pronounce Sentence upon the proofs that should be made before them For though this Bull implied a definitive Sentence of the Pope upon a supposition of the Validity of the King's Pretensions nevertheless it left many things for the Legates to do They were to inform themselves 1. Whether the King had not desired this Marriage himself 2. Whether it would not occasion a War between Spain and England should a Dispensation be granted 3. Whether this Dispensation had been annull'd by the Protestation which the King made against the Marriage when he came to be of Age. 4. Whether any of the Princes in favour of whom the Dispensation was allow'd were Dead before the Marriage was consummated It is apparent that that same Bull for the dissolution of the Marriage between Henry and Catharine being only granted upon supposition that all the matters in Question were as the King maintained them to be had been void in case he could not have prov'd his suggestions which is the thing that confounds all the Author's Arguments But I must confess that M. Le Grand has something of Reason on his side in what he says concerning Rodulphus whom I believed to have been Campeggio's Bastard He proves out of Sigonius who writes the Life of that Cardinal that Rodulphus was his Legitimate Son Sigonius is a very good Author and I acquiesce in his Authority But had M. Le Grand cast but his Eyes upon the English Edition he would have seen that it was not without sufficient Ground and not out of any design to blacken the Reputation of C. Campeggio