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A20517 A reply to M. Nicholas Smith, his discussion, of some pointes of M. Doctour Kellison his treatise of the hierarchie. By a divine Divine.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640?; Kellison, Matthew. 1630 (1630) STC 6929; ESTC S109712 163,687 351

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it_o be_v omnium_fw-la una_fw-la conclusio_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o conclusion_n of_o all_o that_o many_o law_n agree_v to_o many_o by_o the_o divine_a and_o natural_a law_n be_v restrain_v by_o the_o chief_a prince_n 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n in_o regard_n of_o spiritual_a thing_n and_o of_o the_o secular_a prince_n in_o respect_n of_o temporal_a matter_n as_o well_o by_o interpretation_n betwixt_o right_n and_o equity_n interpose_v as_o by_o imposition_n of_o punishment_n as_o by_o inst_z dispensation_n as_o by_o just_a and_o naturallreason_n and_o felinus_n decius_n and_o other_o do_v copiouslie_o deliver_v 8._o wherefore_o m._n doctor_n do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v in_o some_o case_n dispense_v in_o the_o divine_a law_n of_o have_v a_o bishop_n or_o declare_v that_o in_o
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bishop_n have_v a_o great_a obligation_n to_o stick_v to_o his_o bishopric_n because_o he_o can_v forsake_v it_o without_o dispensation_n or_o leave_n from_o the_o pope_n 1._o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la veron_n &_o ca._n episcopus_fw-la de_fw-la loco_fw-la 17._o q._n 1._o the_o inferior_a pastor_n may_v leave_v his_o pastorship_n with_o licence_n of_o the_o bishop_n but_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o may_v be_v because_o the_o bishop_n have_v no_o superior_a but_o the_o pope_n to_o licence_v he_o the_o inferior_a pastor_n have_v the_o bishop_n who_o may_v dispense_v with_o he_o to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o the_o pope_n hinselfe_n who_o have_v the_o high_a state_n in_o the_o church_n may_v renounce_v it_o and_o yet_o because_o he_o can_v do_v this_o without_o great_a and_o urgent_a cause_n he_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o perfection_n wherefore_o because_o the_o curate_n or_o archdeacon_n can_v leave_v their_o charge_n without_o licence_n of_o the_o bishop_n their_o state_n be_v 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