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A43970 An answer to a book published by Dr. Bramhall, late bishop of Derry; called the Catching of the leviathan. Together with an historical narration concerning heresie, and the punishment thereof. By Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679. 1682 (1682) Wing H2211; ESTC R19913 73,412 166

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chap._n 17._o do_v cive_z in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o chapter_n it_o be_v thus_o the_o time_n of_o christ_n be_v upon_o the_o earth_n be_v call_v in_o scripture_n the_o regeneration_n often_o but_o the_o kingdom_n never_o when_o the_o son_n of_o god_n come_v in_o majesty_n and_o all_o the_o angel_n with_o he_o than_o he_o shall_v sit_v on_o the_o seat_n of_o majesty_n my_o kingdom_n be_v not_o of_o this_o world_n god_n send_v not_o his_o son_n that_o he_o shall_v judge_v the_o world_n i_o come_v not_o to_o judge_v the_o world_n but_o to_o save_v the_o world_n man_n who_o make_v i_o a_o judge_n or_o divider_n among_o you_o let_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v and_o other_o word_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n out_o of_o which_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o christ_n take_v upon_o he_o no_o regal_a power_n upon_o earth_n before_o his_o assumption_n but_o at_o his_o assumption_n his_o apostle_n ask_v he_o if_o he_o will_v then_o restore_v the_o kingdom_n to_o israel_n and_o he_o answer_v it_o be_v not_o for_o they_o to_o know_v so_o that_o hitherto_o christ_n have_v not_o take_v that_o office_n upon_o he_o unless_o his_o lordship_n think_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v two_o distinct_a kingdom_n from_o the_o assumption_n ever_o since_o all_o true_a christian_n say_v daily_o in_o their_o prayer_n thy_o kingdom_n come_v but_o his_o lordship_n have_v perhaps_o forget_v that_o but_o when_o then_o begin_v christ_n to_o be_v a_o king_n i_o say_v it_o shall_v be_v then_o when_o he_o come_v again_o in_o majesty_n with_o all_o the_o angel_n and_o even_o then_o he_o shall_v reign_v as_o he_o be_v man_n under_o his_o father_n for_o st._n paul_n say_v 1_o cor._n 15.25_o 26._o he_o must_v reign_v till_o he_o have_v put_v all_o enemy_n under_o his_o foot_n the_o last_o enemy_n that_o shall_v be_v destroy_v be_v death_n but_o when_o shall_v god_n the_o father_n reign_v again_o st._n paul_n say_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n verse_n 28._o when_o all_o thing_n shall_v be_v subdue_v unto_o he_o then_o shall_v the_o son_n also_o himself_o be_v subject_a unto_o he_o that_o put_v all_o thing_n under_o he_o that_o god_n may_v be_v all_o in_o all_o and_o verse_n 24._o then_o come_v the_o end_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v deliver_v up_o the_o kingdom_n to_o god_n even_o the_o father_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v put_v down_o all_o rule_n authority_n and_o power_n this_o be_v at_o the_o resurrection_n and_o by_o this_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o his_o lordship_n be_v not_o so_o well_o verse_v in_o scripture_n as_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v j._n d._n he_o take_v away_o his_o priestly_a or_o propitiatory_a office_n and_o although_o this_o act_n of_o our_o redemption_n be_v not_o always_o in_o scripture_n call_v a_o sacrifice_n and_o oblation_n but_o sometime_o a_o price_n yet_o by_o price_n we_o be_v not_o to_o understand_v any_o thing_n by_o the_o value_n whereof_o he_o can_v claim_v right_a to_o a_o pardon_n for_o we_o from_o his_o offend_a father_n but_o that_o price_n which_o god_n the_o father_n be_v please_v in_o mercy_n to_o demand_v and_o again_o not_o that_o the_o death_n of_o one_o man_n though_o without_o sin_n can_v satisfy_v for_o the_o offence_n of_o all_o man_n in_o the_o rigour_n of_o justice_n but_o in_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n that_o ordain_v such_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n as_o he_o be_v please_v in_o mercy_n to_o accept_v he_o know_v no_o difference_n between_o one_o who_o be_v mere_a man_n and_o one_o who_o be_v both_o god_n and_o man_n between_o a_o levitical_a sacrifice_n and_o the_o all-sufficient_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n between_o the_o blood_n of_o a_o calf_n and_o the_o precious_a blood_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n t._n h._n yes_o i_o know_v there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o blood_n and_o blood_n but_o not_o any_o such_o as_o can_v make_v a_o difference_n in_o the_o case_n here_o question_v our_o saviour_n blood_n be_v most_o precious_a but_o still_o it_o be_v humane_a blood_n and_o i_o hope_v his_o lordship_n do_v never_o think_v otherwise_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o accept_v by_o his_o father_n for_o our_o redemption_n j._n d._n and_o touch_v the_o prophetical_a office_n of_o christ_n i_o do_v much_o doubt_n whether_o he_o do_v believe_v in_o earnest_n that_o there_o be_v any_o such_o thing_n as_o prophecy_n in_o the_o world_n he_o make_v very_o little_a difference_n between_o a_o prophet_n and_o a_o madman_n and_o a_o demoniac_a and_o if_o there_o be_v nothing_o else_o say_v he_o that_o bewray_v their_o madness_n yet_o that_o very_o arrogate_a such_o inspiration_n to_o themselves_o be_v argument_n enough_o he_o make_v the_o pretence_n of_o inspiration_n in_o any_o man_n to_o be_v and_o always_o to_o have_v be_v on_o opinion_n pernicious_a to_o peace_n and_o tend_v to_o the_o dissolution_n of_o all_o civil_a government_n he_o subject_v all_o prophetical_a revelation_n from_o god_n to_o the_o sole_a pleasure_n and_o censure_n of_o the_o sovereign_a prince_n either_o to_o authorize_v they_o or_o to_o exauctorate_v they_o so_o as_o two_o prophet_n prophesy_v the_o same_o thing_n at_o the_o same_o time_n in_o the_o dominion_n of_o two_o different_a prince_n the_o one_o shall_v be_v a_o true_a prophet_n the_o other_o a_o false_a and_o christ_n who_o have_v the_o approbation_n of_o no_o sovereign_a prince_n upon_o his_o ground_n be_v to_o be_v repute_v a_o false_a prophet_n every_o where_n every_o man_n therefore_o aught_o to_o consider_v who_o be_v the_o sovereign_a prophet_n that_o be_v to_o say_v who_o it_o be_v that_o be_v god_n vicegerent_n upon_o earth_n and_o have_v next_o under_o god_n the_o authority_n of_o govern_v christian_n man_n and_o to_o observe_v for_o a_o rule_n that_o doctrine_n which_o in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n he_o have_v command_v to_o be_v teach_v and_o thereby_o to_o examine_v and_o try_v out_o the_o truth_n of_o those_o doctrine_n which_o pretend_a prophet_n with_o miracle_n or_o without_o shall_v at_o any_o time_n advance_v etc._n etc._n and_o if_o he_o disavow_v they_o than_o no_o more_o to_o obey_v their_o voice_n or_o if_o he_o approve_v they_o then_o to_o obey_v they_o as_o man_n to_o who_o god_n have_v give_v a_o part_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o their_o sovereign_n upon_o his_o principle_n the_o case_n hold_v as_o well_o among_o jew_n and_o turk_n and_o heathen_n as_o christian_n then_o he_o that_o teach_v transubstantiation_n in_o france_n be_v a_o true_a prophet_n he_o that_o teach_v in_o it_o england_n a_o false_a prophet_n he_o that_o blaspheme_v christ_n in_o constantinople_n a_o true_a prophet_n he_o that_o do_v the_o same_o in_o italy_n a_o false_a prophet_n then_o samuel_n be_v a_o false_a prophet_n to_o contest_v with_o saul_n a_o sovereign_a prophet_n so_o be_v the_o man_n of_o god_n who_o submit_v not_o to_o the_o more_o divine_a and_o prophetic_a spirit_n of_o jeroboam_n and_o elijah_n for_o reprove_v ahab_n then_o michaiah_n have_v but_o his_o desert_n to_o be_v clap_v up_o in_o prison_n and_o feed_v with_o bread_n of_o affliction_n and_o water_n of_o affliction_n for_o dare_v to_o contradict_v god_n vicegerent_n upon_o earth_n and_o jeremiah_n be_v just_o throw_v into_o a_o dungeon_n for_o prophesy_v against_o zedekiah_n his_o liege_n lord_n if_o his_o principle_n be_v true_a it_o be_v strange_a indeed_o that_o none_o of_o all_o these_o prince_n nor_o any_o other_o that_o ever_o be_v in_o the_o world_n shall_v understand_v their_o own_o privilege_n and_o yet_o more_o strange_a that_o god_n almighty_n shall_v take_v the_o part_n of_o such_o rebellious_a prophet_n and_o justify_v their_o prophecy_n by_o the_o event_n if_o be_v be_v true_a that_o none_o but_o the_o sovereign_n in_o a_o christian_a the_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o for_o jewish_a commonwealth_n can_v take_v notice_n what_o be_v or_o what_o be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o god_n t._n h._n to_o remove_v his_o lordship_n doubt_n in_o the_o first_o place_n i_o confess_v there_o be_v true_a prophecy_n and_o true_a prophet_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n from_o abraham_n down_o to_o our_o saviour_n the_o great_a prophet_n of_o all_o and_o the_o last_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o first_o of_o the_o new_a after_o our_o saviour_n time_n till_o the_o death_n of_o st._n john_n the_o apostle_n there_o be_v true_a prophet_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n prophet_n to_o who_o god_n speak_v supernatural_o and_o testify_v the_o truth_n of_o their_o mission_n by_o miracle_n of_o those_o that_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v call_v prophet_n without_o miracle_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n only_o that_o they_o speak_v in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n to_o man_n and_o in_o the_o name_n of_o man_n to_o god_n there_o be_v have_v be_v and_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o church_n
deus_fw-mi we_o make_v two_o god_n of_o one_o this_o be_v well_o understand_v by_o damascene_fw-la in_o his_o treatise_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la orthodoxa_fw-la which_o be_v a_o exposition_n of_o the_o nicene_n creed_n where_o he_o deny_v absolute_o that_o deitas_fw-la be_v deus_fw-la lest_o see_v god_n be_v make_v man_n it_o shall_v follow_v the_o deity_n be_v make_v man_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o all_o the_o nicene_n father_n the_o attribute_n therefore_o of_o god_n in_o the_o abstract_n when_o they_o be_v put_v for_o god_n be_v put_v metonymical_o which_o be_v a_o common_a thing_n in_o scripture_n for_o example_n prov._n 8.28_o where_o it_o be_v say_v before_o the_o mountain_n be_v settle_v before_o the_o hill_n be_v i_o bring_v forth_o the_o wisdom_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n signify_v the_o same_o with_o the_o wise_a god_n this_o kind_n of_o speak_v be_v also_o ordinary_a in_o all_o language_n this_o consider_v such_o abstract_a word_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v use_v in_o argue_v and_o especial_o in_o the_o deduce_a the_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n though_o in_o the_o language_n of_o god_n eternal_a worship_n and_o in_o all_o godly_a discourse_n they_o can_v be_v avoid_v and_o the_o creed_n itself_o be_v less_o difficult_a to_o be_v assent_v to_o in_o its_o own_o word_n than_o in_o all_o such_o exposition_n of_o the_o father_n who_o for_o we_o man_n and_o our_o salvation_n come_v down_o from_o heaven_n and_o be_v uncarnate_a by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o be_v make_v man._n i_o have_v not_o read_v of_o any_o exception_n to_o this_o for_o where_o athanasius_n in_o his_o creed_n say_v of_o the_o son_n he_o be_v not_o make_v but_o beget_v it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o son_n as_o he_o be_v god_n eternal_a whereas_o here_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o son_n as_o he_o be_v man_n and_o of_o the_o son_n also_o as_o he_o be_v man_n it_o may_v be_v say_v he_o be_v beget_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o a_o woman_n conceive_v not_o but_o of_o he_o that_o beget_v which_o be_v also_o confirm_v mat._n 1_o 20._o that_o which_o be_v beget_v in_o her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o be_v also_o crucify_a for_o we_o under_o pontius_n pilate_n he_o suffer_v and_o be_v bury_v and_o the_o three_o day_n he_o rise_v again_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o fit_v on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o the_o father_n and_o he_o shall_v come_v again_o with_o glory_n to_o judge_v both_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a who_o kingdom_n shall_v have_v no_o end_n of_o this_o part_n of_o the_o creed_n i_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o any_o doubt_n make_v by_o any_o christian_a hither_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a proceed_v in_o their_o general_a confession_n of_o faith_n and_o no_o further_o this_o finish_v some_o of_o the_o bishop_n present_a at_o the_o council_n seventeen_o or_o eighteen_o whereof_o eusebius_n bishop_n of_o caesarea_n be_v one_o not_o sufficient_o satisfy_v refuse_v to_o subscribe_v till_o this_o doctrine_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v better_o explain_v thereupon_o the_o council_n decree_v that_o whosoever_o shall_v say_v that_o god_n have_v part_n shall_v be_v anathematise_v to_o which_o the_o say_v bishop_n subscribe_v and_o eusebius_n by_o order_n of_o the_o council_n write_v a_o letter_n the_o copy_n whereof_o be_v send_v to_o every_o absent_a bishop_n that_o be_v satisfy_v with_o the_o reason_n of_o their_o subscribe_v they_o also_o shall_v subscribe_v the_o reason_n they_o give_v of_o their_o subscription_n be_v this_o that_o they_o have_v now_o a_o form_n of_o word_n prescribe_v by_o which_o as_o a_o rule_n they_o may_v guide_v themselves_o so_o as_o not_o to_o violate_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n by_o this_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o no_o man_n be_v a_o heretic_n but_o he_o that_o in_o plain_a and_o direct_a word_n contradict_v that_o 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