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A45154 A reply to the defence of Dr. Stillingfleet being a counter plot for union between the Protestants, in opposition to the project of others for conjunction with the Church of Rome / by the authors of the Modest and peaceable inquiry, of the Reflections, (i.e.) the Country confor., of the Peaceable designe. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719.; Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699. 1681 (1681) Wing H3706; ESTC R8863 130,594 165

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all_o case_n that_o man_n must_v not_o suffer_v for_o their_o conscience_n but_o be_v allow_v the_o free_a exercise_n of_o their_o religion_n according_a to_o their_o own_o persuasion_n if_o they_o be_v not_o let_v they_o leave_v off_o the_o pretence_n of_o scruple_n and_o tender_a conscience_n with_o that_o liberty_n and_o freedom_n in_o exercise_v their_o religion_n which_o they_o challenge_v as_o their_o natural_a birthright_n and_o demand_v no_o more_o of_o that_o than_o what_o the_o merit_n of_o their_o cause_n require_v in_o this_o discourse_n there_o be_v more_o strange_a thing_n than_o one_o 1._o he_o declare_v that_o if_o those_o argument_n that_o be_v bring_v for_o free_a exercise_n of_o religion_n from_o scruple_n and_o tenderness_n of_o conscience_n be_v good_a they_o must_v be_v good_a in_o all_o case_n the_o meaning_n be_v this_o one_o