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A56492 Mr. L'Estrange refuted with his own arguments being a reply to his late impertinent pamphlet entituled L'Estrange no papist : in farther justification of the informations sworn against him, before the lords of the secret committee / by J.P., Gent. ... J. P., Gent. 1681 (1681) Wing P59A; ESTC R5424 14,607 35

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and shall be always ready to justifie And more then that he admires at Mr. L'Estranges Confidence to call the Everlasting God to Witness the attest of his publick Impositions upon the World But the slight Comparison of his coming down the Chimney upon a Broomstick shews the levity of his Invocation Now as to the probability of the Matter First saith he I had no discourse with Fletcher but in the hearing of the other two and to those two I dare appeal if he dares but say who they were As to the first Assertion Mr. Fletcher affirms it to be false for that the other two Gentlemen were at the one end of a long Table and Mr. Fletcher and Mr. L'Estrange at the other at a competent distance and consequently divided into several places and discoursing of distinct matter As for his Appeal because he is in such a daring humour we will ●ell him the Name of one of the Gentlemen who was there and perhaps took more notice of his Auricular Confessions then he was aware of his Name with his addition is Doctor Frye Now we must tell him where the Doctor lives too or else Mr. L'Estrange will make him a Nullitie as he has done Mr. Anderson's Acquaintance he lives therefore in Black Fryers very near the Water-Stairs where he is very well known and where Mr. L'Estrange may attend him for the Julip of his so unquestioned acquittal Secondly I must be two great Fools in one to speak a thing so imprudent that had no relation either to the Company or the Occasion As for Mr. L'Estranges Folly or whether he be one or two Fools we shall not trouble our selves with it nor whether he borrowed this Argument from Gawen the Jesuite at the Sessions-House But considering that it is the Custom of most people now a-days to preach over their Cups and to slip out of all other Discourses into that of Religion at the Tavern there might be occasion given enough for the Discourse and Discourse enough upon the Occasion notwithstanding all Mr. L'Estranges Improbabilities Thirdly In case I had said it in so harmless a fashion c. So then at length here 's a Confession of the whole matter wire-drawn out of him But what he means by confessing himself to be a Catholick of Rome in a harmless fashion by confessing himself to be of that Church in a harmless fashion and by hoping to see others return to that Church in a harmless fashion or how the saying of words in a harmless fashion can make those words void is somewhat of a Riddle But now you see what sort of Engin it is which he makes use of to shove off all Objections made against him he swears and stares and hectors in a harmless fashion and then you are oblig'd to believe what ever he says to be true in a harmless fashion But lastly it is my comfort that Mr. Fletcher of all the world is is the man to make me a Papist of whom no man living could ever make any thing The Assertion is very general and very positive and properly enough becoming Mr L'Estranges impotent precipitancy and shews how little heed there is to be given to a rash and inconsiderate Censurer But suppose him to be onely a moral honest Man and that Mr. L'Estrange dares not deny 't is enough to do his business Nay suppose him to be one of the midling sort a man of no more then a strip'd Reputation yet the Oaths of such a one is sufficient to serve Mr. L'Estranges turn Is this the Famous L'Estrange that ownes such Trifles as these His Populus ridet multumque torosa Jnventus Ingeminat tremulos naso Crispante Cachinnos At these the common Vulgar laugh the very Boys Sneer up their Noses and deride his Toys Mr. Prance 's Invention I find is quite jaded so put to 't to make a Twelve-penny Book on 't that he 's fain to Thunder a matter of twelve folio Pages in Observations upon Philo-L'Estrange and Pragmaticus and all the Edge of his Indignation is as still turn'd upon me that Heav'n knows am innocent of the thing as I was born How innocent he was born it matters not He should have done well to have made the Earth as knowing as the Heavens in this particular Especially having so many good Friends that for old acquaintance sake would have spar'd him room for such a short Advertisement in any of their Weekly Intelligences But be it whose it will it runs in his Stile contains his own Principles pursues his wild and rambling Conceits and smells of the same Hemp with all the rest of his Pamphlets against the Plot and it's Discoverers His Name is to it the known Name of Roger L'Estrange Esq and it is said to be printed for his Bookseller And therefore since the Brat is laid to his Charge he is bound to keep and maintain it For otherwise by his own Rule unless he can produce the Author and tell us where he dwels we must adjudge all other Authors Nullities but himself However he says there is in it one Terrible Pinch against him Mr. L'Estrange says in his Discovery upon Discovery Now Doctor I do positively averr that there was not one Church of England-Man in the Parliament Army To which it is answered that a Metropolitan of England served in the Parliament Army with a command of Horse and thence inferr'd now what becomes of L'Estranges positive averr To which Mr. L'Estrange replies that the Covenant was an Abjuration of the Church of England and the opposing of Bishops and the Common-Prayer was the Test of the Party and that an Episcopal man being once dipt is no more a Church of England-Man than a Renegade that hath renounced the Christian-Faith is a Christian Truely Mr. L'Estrange had better have let this Argument alone for he only speaks out of the abundance of his Heart but not out of the Abundance of his Logick In the first place he does not make it out that ever the Arch-Bishop took the Covenant neither does it appear by any thing from Mr. L'Estrange but that he might make use of the Liturgie of the Church of England at the same time So that it may be said indeed that he assisted the Long Parliament as a Rebel but that did not make him cease to be a Church of England-Man And thus the Bishop of Munster when he assisted the French King was a Rebel 't is true to the Emperor who was his lawful Prince nevertheless he was of the Church of Rome and Bishop of Munster still So in the Archbishop the effect must remain because the cause was not taken away The cause of his being made Arch-Bishop was the Kings Favour but the King had not un-Arch-Bishop'd him and therefore being still an Arch-Bishop he was still a Church of England-Man In the second place He mistakes in Fundamentals For Episcopacy is not the Church of England 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 de omni but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉
let him understand that he ought not to think himself so high nor manage his Informatum fulmen with that usurp'd authority as he does I do positively aver that there is more learning and truth of History in what Mr. Care has writ then in all the Quarto's of Mr. L'Estrange's Pamphlets fitter for the Library of Pantagruel and to be plac'd in his Study next the Famous Author of Poltronismus Rerum Italicarum the Squire 's works being no more then Poltronismi Rerum Anglicarum besides that the disputes in Pantagruel are carried on with equal heat and are all of equal importance However by this Fluster-Bluster you may taste the savouriness of his wit and the poinancie of his Expressions tart smart sharp quick biting froppish peevish waspish angry touchy and in short scelerata sinapis all over Nevertheless he might have had more wit in his anger or in his brains or somewhere then to have thrust Mr. Prance among his Blasphemers and flyers in the face of Gods Anointed against whom I le hold him an even wager he is not able to find the least sillable for such a Nonsensical Accusation For all false Accusations are but the nonsense of Envy and generally turn to the shame of the Accuser But 't is no difficult matter to comment upon Mr. L'Estrange's Text. For by flying in the face of Gods Anointed he means the Discoveries of the Plot and the Assertours of the Protestant Religion and by Blasphemers those that contradict the Follies and Impertinencies of the Diana and the Goliah of Sense and Grammar His following Excursions are nothing to our purpose meer Persollae Nugae trifles and riffraffe and a congeries of characteristical Raptures in defiance of the Towzer-teazers onely he is very much troubled that People should think he withdrew either out of fear or guilt For what was it then Why he is so kind once as to tell ye that being in a State of libertie he thought it his safest way Achilles like to retire among the Batavian Spinsters for fear of being shot in the heels And that this is the sober-serious touch of the business the very reason which he urges against his fear and guilt confirm For his dismission at the Council was no plenary bar for the Parliament not to call over his Charge again And for his withdrawing before any thing was spoken against him in the House of Lords it was an act of his prudence rather to make use of Mercuries wings than stay to run hazards Then again saies he I declared at the latter end of my Appeal that I would withdraw But that most People constru'd in another sense that he intended to withdraw out of this Impious and Trapanning World upon the encouragement of Dr. Don's self-Homicide and not into Holland however the hopes of a better Secretary-ship then Mr. Prance's made him alter his resolution So unluckily did his aged Ambition spoil a good Design As for his Answer to Mr. Prance's Information 't is hardly worth taking notice of For the stress of Mr. Prance's Affidavit does not lye upon Mr. L'Estrange being at Mass but as he himself has stated his own Case whether he were at Mass in the Queens Chappel since the Kings Restoration In the contrary averments of which two different Assertions either Mr. Prance or Mr. L'Estrange must be forsworn Now I am apt to think that the greatest part of the Readers of this hot contest will take my part and believe that Mr. Prance has as much reason to be credited as Mr. L'Estrange For most certain it is that his word has been taken already more than once for greatter Matters than Mr. L'Estrange's being at the Queen's Chappel In that he has answered nothing to the point For where he says that had he been at Mass the Papists would be able to convict him He knows well enough and we know too that 't is no wonder they should conceal his denyals that are so good at 'em themselves that they will confess nothing by their good will And for his saying that Mr. Prance's Secretary falls upon him most outragiously 't is a Don-Quixotisme of his own for there is all along that Moderation and respect which perhaps he calls Insipidness observed toward him which he ought to have acknowledged rather than ingratefully and disingenuously traduc'd But when a thing pinches him he being old Dog at the trade finds it his best way to nip it again with his Barnacles of Outragious and Insipid and so to shift it off But let me tell you Mr. L'Estrange this Plot of yours will take as little as young Mr. Tongues His answer to Mowbray's Affidavit is nothing but a vain flourishing upon the accident of his being saluted at the Queens Chappel by the name of Mr. L'Estrange by an acquaintance of Mr. Andersons who was Servant to Mr. Allaby of Grays-Inn Now because Mr. Mowbray does not tell the Name of this Mr. Andersons acquaintance nor where he dwelt therefore Mr. L'Estrange will have this Person to be a Nullitie or rather as I believe he meant a non Entitie which is such an odd way of annihilating a Man that onely Mr. L'Estranges Omnipotency could have found out However for his satisfaction it had been but his going with a little expence of Shoo-Leather to the Porter of Gray's-Inn and he would have directed him to Mr. Allaby Mr. Allaby would have directed him to his man Anderson and Mr. Anderson would have directed him to his acquaintance Which he would certainly have done rather then suffer'd his friend to be thus unkindly annihilated Truly Mr. L'Estrange would do well to practice this art of Annihilation I dare be bold to say he might get vastly by the wicked But Mr. Mowbray swears that he saw Mr. L'Estrange since that at the Queens Chappel and knew him again to be the same Person he had seen there before that is the same Person that had been taken notice of by Mr. Anderson's Nullitie in the same place So that if Mr. L'Estrange have nothing else but Conclusions upon surmizes the five Jesuites way of Arguing themselves to the Gallows and his own Hectoring and Swaggering to defend his cause 't is positive that his swearing and protesting for himself is not to be believ'd against the Oath of two credible Witnesses swearing for the King Never believe it Sir these Hocus pocus-tricks will not pass for the world is grown old and cunning and is not now to be cajol'd with smooth Tales and Rhapsodies of hard words His Animadversions on the Depositions of Mrs. Jane Curtis in the first place are such as make against himself Secondly disingenuously and Scandalously untrue and in the Third place ridiculously evasive He confesses he charg'd Mrs. Curtis and her Husband for publishing Seditious Books and that being pinch'd upon curcumstances she confess'd The Appeal from the Country to the City So then 't is plain he look'd upon the Appeal to be a Seditious Book And yet the Imposition of the