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A10672	Vox cœli, or Newes from heauen Of a consultation there held by the high and mighty princes, King Hen. 8. King Edw. 6. Prince Henry, Queene Mary, Queene Elizabeth, and Queene Anne, wherein Spaines ambition and trecheries to most kingdoms and free estates of Europe, are vnmasked and truly represented, but more particularly towards England, and now more especially vnder the pretended match of Prince Charles with the Infanta Dona Maria. VVherunto is annexed two letters written by Queene Mary from heauen, the one to Count Gondomar, the ambassadour of Spaine, the other to all the Romane Catholiques of England. Written by S.R.N.I.	Reynolds, John, fl. 1621-1650.	1624 (1624)	STC 20946.4; ESTC S122495	52,043	108

an excellent thing for England to fight with Spaniards but not to ioyne with Spaniards against others P. H. Why should not our English Fleetes goe for the West Indies Q. M. If this Proposition be broached then Gondomar will runne madde E. 6. What difference is there betwixt the East and West Indies P. H. As much as there is betweene Pepper and Siluer or white Feathers and yellow Gold H. 8. O but England neere this twentie yeares hath lost those golden times of going to the gardens of Hesperides P. H. And now Holland after ten yeares tryall and patience resolues to finde them Q. E. Now we speake of Holland It againe exceedingly grieues me that England goes from Holland in that it will not protect it against Spaine Q. M. And truely it is my ioy and comfort to vnderstand it for the farther England goes from Holland I am sure the neerer Spaine comes to England P. H. Nay if the match hold Holland can expect no assistance from England for the Pope the King of Spaine Gondomar the Iesuits and English Recusants will in few yeares so shuffle deale the Cards as England shall not be able to assist her selfe much lesse her Neighbours E 6. Why that is the way in a few more yeares to make England a Province to Spaine Q E. Yea yea there is the mysterie for if the Match with Spaine hold the Conquest of England will vndoubtedly follow and then Gondomar can be no lesse then Vice-roy or great Commander of England for the King and Councell of Spaine will iudge him worthy of this honour because he hath deserued it P. H. It were better Spaine were hell and Gondomar Vice-roy to the Diuell as he is now Ambassadour to the Catholike King Q. A. But is it possible that the King of Spaine hath so little Iustice and Charitie and so much Vanitie and Ambition to desire it E. 6. The Kings of Spaine make this the tenth Article of their Creede that the Rules of the Empire and State ought to giue Lawes but not to receiue any Q. E. But this is contrary to the Lawes of the KING of Kings Q. M. But in the Councell of Spaine the Rules of State are alwayes too sublime and powerfull for those of Religion yea the Pope will easily dispence with the King of Spaine to make a Conquest of England either by trechery hostilitie or the match for it is against an heretike King and People who refuse to enter into the bosome of the Church therefore lawfull in it selfe because it tends to the Catholike cause the displanting and rooting out of Heretikes and the establishing preservation of the Romane Catholikes in England Q. E. Those giddie and passionate Romane Catholikes of England who desire to fish in troubled waters who delight in nothing but in innovation and noueltie and who make a May-game of Conscience and an Ape of Religion may peraduenture flatter themselues with the false sunne-shine of these hopes but those of them whose hearts are better lodged and whose eyes and iudgements can see farther and clearer Those I say who know by the Lawes of Grace and Nature what they owe to GOD to their lawfull Prince and Countrie those remember that the Duke of Medina Sydonia sayd in eightie eight who was then Generall of the Spanish Fleete that his Commission was not to distinguish of Religion but to make a passage with his Sword ore both Religions without exception that thereby the King his Master might haue the easier way and fairer passage to the Crowne and Kingdome of England Therefore we neede no perspectiue Glasse or Spectacles to see that it is not the establishing of the Romane Religion but of himselfe in England whereat the King of Spaine still aymes Q. M. But Count Gondomar is wise enough to provide a Playster for that sore for he in netling the Nobler sort of Catholikes with the Match hath in plaine tearmes given the lye to the Duke of Medina his speech and therefore he hopes they will beleeue him P. H. The nobler and more passionate and factious sort of them may beleeue Gondomar herein but the wiser temperate and conscious will not and yet the Feminine Gender are Masculine sticklers and solicitors for him as he and the Iesuites are for the King his Master Q. E. Nay the Romane Catholikes of England haue reason to beleeue Gondomar sith King Iames loues him so well as he esteemes his speeches Oracles and Scripture and who with the quintessence of his Castillian or rather Galician braine hath now brought matters to this passe that no cinsere advise honest Letter Religious Sermon or true picture can point at the King of Spaine but they are called in and their Authors imprisoned in stead of rewarded though never so honest and loyall Subiects H. 8. But me thinkes that this is no subtill policie of Gondomar for the more he striues to suppresse the truth the more it will flourish and prevaile For for the good of England if one penne or tongue be commanded to silence they will occasion and set tenne at libertie to write and speake as Grasse or Cammomell which the more it is depressed the thicker it will spread and growe Q. M. But hath not Gondomar reason to strike whiles he findes the Iron hot and to take the benefit of the floud before the ebbe come or the tyde be spent Q. A. Indeed they say he reports that this Summer time the ayre of London and Islington is not sweete enough either for his Fistula or perfumed braine and that he hath therefore gotten leaue of his Maiestie to lodge in a part of his Pallace of Greenwich which standes in so pure an ayre vpon the pleasant Christall Riuer of Thames Q. E. That were a presumptuous part of Gondomar indeed to aspire to lodge in that pleasant and Royall Pallace of Greenwich Q M. But if it be so I thinke it is not to lodge there himselfe but onely to square out the Infanta's Lodgings her Chamber of Presence and a Plot to build her Grace a Chappell against shee come whereof Iones Sir Innigo hath alreadie the Modell in his braines P. H. If King IAMES my Father lodge Gondomar this Summer in Greenwich the next King Philip himselfe will hope to lye in White-Hall E. 6. Nay soft first let his Daughter the Infanta come for she must breake the Ice ere his Catholike Maiestie will dare aduenture to come passe the Seas hither Q. M. Aduenture to come Why wherefore els saith Count Gondomar lyes King IAMES his Fleete at Alicant and Cartagena but to transport her for England this Summer Q. E. Vntill I am inforced to vnderstand that that Fleete is at Lisbone the Groyne or Saint Andera I will not beleeue it but then I will feare it Q. M. So the Heretike Protestants of France feared their Spanish matches and yet we see they prosper Q. A. It is the end which crownes the beginning not the beginning the end of a worke Q.

murther of William Prince of Orenge much lesse authorised or commanded it P. H. All the Ocean betweene Holland and Spaine cannot wash off that Murther from your Husband King Philip for his proscription to murther him beares it and his Lieutenant the Duke of Parma commanded the Count Assonuille to deale with Gerrard about this murther who promised him twenty-fiue thousand Crownes to effect it which O griefe to speake it he did E. 6. But his valiant Sonne hath long since had revenge for the death of his Father Q. A. If he haue not he resolues to haue it H. 8. But hath not Spaine since attempted or broached any other Treason towardes the Hollanders P. H. O yes very lately for whilst Spaine is Spaine Holland will never forget how neere hee was to haue extinguished her libertie and surprized their State by infecting and corrupting their Secretary Barnevelt a man of so profound wit and deepe iudgement and experience in matters of State as he was not onely the Oracle of the Netherlands but the Ornament and Wonder of Europe yea of his time Q. E. See see the fruites of Spaines Gold and the effects of his boundlesse Ambition for it is a common custome with him if not by the mayne yet surely by the bye to breake the necke of great Princes and free Estates publique Ministers whether they are great Souldiers or great Statesmen or both Q. A. Yea the Web of this Treason was so cunningly wouen and so subtilly and finely spun as if the Netherlands had not broken Barnevelts necke he long ere this had assuredly broken the necke both of their libertie and State Q. M. Well Barnavelt is gone and now Spaine needs not feare his pollicie P. H. Nay Barnavelt being dead and Maurice that famous Prince of Orenge liuing Holland need not feare either the trechery or force of Spaine H. 8. But Nephew I heare that the Vnited Provinces of the Low-Countries will this Spring haue Warres with Spaine for their Peace is neere expired and ended P. H. A braue noble and wise resolution of theirs E. 6. Heretofore England taught the Hollanders wit and valour and now they resolue to shew England the way to those two Vertues Q. M. But the Gold and Silver of Spaine will prevaile against them and weigh them downe P. H. But the Hollanders had Ships enough of their owne and Gold Silver and Men from England therefore they disdaine to feare Spaine nay rather they vow before the next Summer to make Spaine feare them H. 8. See see a handfull of men dare attempt that against Spaine which Great Brittaines huge infinitie will not Q. E. And yet their cause and reason is Englands viz. their Consciences Liues and Countries Q. A. Pray God England and France interpose not to crosse the Warres and seeke to conclude a Peace betwixt Holland and Spaine E. 6. But the Hollanders are resolued to make King Iames a large Offer to protect them against Spaine Q. M. But King Iames loues Spaine too well and therefore will not hearken to or regard their proffer for his Maiestie is resolved not to protect them P. H. The more is the pitty Q. E. The more my griefe Q. M. And without griefe or pitty the more is my ioy Q. E. I protected the Netherlands in despight of Spaine E 6. But Spaine went neere by your Leicester to betray both you and them H. 8. If King Iames would now protect the Netherlands how easily might hee refetch backe Flushing the Brill and the Ramekins E. 6. Nay how easily did his Maiestie depart with them to the Netherlands P. H. It infinitely reioyceth mee to vnderstand the Hollanders braue resolution and forwardnesse to haue warres with Spaine Q. M. But there is a secret tricke to coole their courages which they least thinke of H. 8. As how Daughter Q. M. Why to Pistoll this Prince of Orenge as they did his Father Q E. Heaven forbid it P. H. God defend it Q. M. Why 't is but one for another for hee knowing Barnauelt a Traitor to his Countrey because a Pensioner to Spaine caused the Lords States to put him to death why then in exchange and requitall should not a Pensioner of Spayne either poyson or pistoll the Prince of Orenge E. 6. These diabolicall resolutions and bloudy Positions come from Hell Q. E. And thither they goe that professe and practise them Q. M. The King of Spaine is too religious to authorise so execrable a Murther Q. E. But the Pope as holy as he is will pardon it and yet the world I hope knowes that the K. of Spaine cannot be so religious as his Holines Q. A. It were good then for Holland to bee carefull of their Prince of Orenge his life as all the World knowes his Excellencie is of their safetie and preseruations P. H. And it will likewise behoue them to obserue withall as I hope they doe how subtilly and trecherously Spinola takes their neighbour Townes for the Emperour and keeps them for the King of Spaine his Master E. 6. And if the Warres goe on 'twixt Holland and Spaine as I hope they will It will be needefull for Spaine to haue a speciall care of his West-Indies from the Holland Fleets H. 8. Wherefore onely Spaines West-Indies or rather why not all the Worlds West-Indies sith their red and white earth sets all the World on fire and in Combustion Q. A. Surely ere this Summer passe and the next appeare the Hollanders vow to haue a heaue at them Q. M. Nay I hope the contrary for the West-Indies is the maine onely prop of Spaine which if once found out and taken away from them will quickly make the greatnesse of his Ambition and Empire to totter P. H. Till when all other Kingdomes and Estates of Christendome may thinke themselues exempt from Spaines feare but shall never bee from his danger Q. E. This Holland perfectly and apparantly knowes and it were a great happinesse for the rest of Europe if they would heerein imitate their Generosity Valour and wisedome who stand on their Guards with their swords drawne and their match lighted ready to giue fire as being constantly and vertuously resolued neither to loue trust nor feare Spaine ENGLAND H. 8. But now leaue we all other Countries and come wee to England from whence being descended wee by the Lawes of Nature are eternally obliged to honour and loue it yea to preferre it and its prosperitie and glory to all other Countries of the world wherfore let vs see Spaines Ambition and Enuie towards it and how he hath from time to time borne himselfe to the English Q. M. There is no Kingdome in the world that Spaines loues better then England Q. E. Nor no people vnder the Sunne that it hates more then Englishmen E. 6. For Peter King of Castille most ingratefully and basely abused our famous and generous Edward the Blacke Prince the Ornament of Armes the Glory of England and the Honour of the World and

to be a child therefore he is Confident and sure that the Match will hold but withall he saith the Parliament must be ended ere these royall Nuptiall Ceremonies can begin and so I thinke to E. 6. Indeede this Castillian Embassadour now sailes before winde and tyde vnder fore-sayle and maine-top-sayle but very shortly hee hopes to hoyst vp top and top-gallant P.H. he may chance to packe on so much sayle that hee may at last cracke the maine Mast of his Policie or the maine stay of his hopes or bee so busie and violent in the solicitation of this Match as hee himselfe may giue himselfe a Shot which may sinke either his reputation or iudgement or both betwixt winde and water Q. E. Intruth I found his Predicessor Mendoza too busie and dangerous in my State and therefore I forbad him my presence and discharged him my Kingdome whereat I know not whether he or the King his Master more grieued or my Councell and my Countrey reioyced Q. A. Gondomare hath had time enough to know my Husband King Iames but it seemes King Iames hath not yet enough deepely pryed into Gondamare In a word I know his Maiesty hath heard his tongue but not seene his heart much lesse the designes and resolutions of the King and Councell of Spaine which are inuelloped and hood-winked vnder the Mysterie of this Match H. 8. Indeede I haue read that Philip K. of Macedon went neere to haue betraid Arisba K. of Molosses of his kingdome vnder treating a Match with him Q. M. O but that Philip of Macedon was a Heathen King and this Philip of Spaine is the Catholike King therefore King Iames need not feare his sinceritie in the Match Q. E. Sith you are so Religious Sister pray say how doth the Inquisition of Spaine like to match their Infanta to an Hereticke Prince for so I know they terme my Noble Nephew Prince Charles P. H. Why Digbye could haue resolved you of that long since for he knowes that the sacred and reverend Inquisition of Spaine loues England but not the Match our Country but not our Religion and People and yet in hope to root out Heretickes and to plant England with Romane Catholiques they oppose not the Match but rather giue way to it and approue it Q. E. But can Royall King Iames and his Illustrious Sonne Prince Charles obserue their Religion and Conscience in consenting to this Match or haue the Clergie of England warrant enough Authenticall out of the Word of God to say Amen to it Q A. O no for King Iames though not the Prince and Clergie will now make Religion and Conscience Hand-maides to wait and attend on the State E. 6. But his Maiestie should doe farre better to defend the Faith whereof hee is the Defender and therein the State which professeth the true and sincere Religion of Christ and his Apostles sith Pietie is the preserver of Kingdomes and all our actions whatsoeuer should tend to the glory of God which is the banishing of Idolatry and Superstition with their effects and Causes Q. M. Why pray what Marriage so religious as for Prince Charles to match with the Catholique King his Daughter Q E. Sister you haue still Religion in your tongue but I feare wee shall finde none in your heart for pray what places haue you of divine Scripture to authorize and approue this Match of Prince Charles with the Infanta sith they are of a different Religion and Beliefe Q. M. As I confesse I haue none to approue it so I am sure you all cannot alledge any one to oppose and contradict it H. 8. Yes I produce Gen. Ch. 24. Ch. 26. against it E. 6. And I Exod. Ch. 34. Iudg. Ch. 17. Q. E. And I Iosh. Ch. 23. 2 Chron. Ch. 21. P. H. And I 1 King Ch. 11. Ch. 16. Q. A. And I Ezra Ch. 9. Nehem. Ch. 13. Q. M. Well whatsoever you say this Match notwithstanding tends to Gods glory and the good of the Catholique and Apostolique Church and in the end you shall finde that Gondomars policie and Spaines Ambition will triumph ore your Scripture Q. E. This Match tends onely to bring in the Pope into our Churches and the King of Spaine into our Estate for that is the ayme of the first the Ambition of the second and the obiect and hopes of both and I feare a few yeares will prooue it so if in time it be not remedied and prevented which God of his mercie grant for 't is true all the wheeles of Gondomars Art and Invention are at worke to effect and accomplish it Q. M. The Pope I must confesse as Christs Vicar Generall on earth desires that England were Catholique but for the good King of Spaine he hath Kingdomes enough of his owne and therefore lookes not after England onely he desires to see the Match consummated P. H. Yes the King of Spaines tongue hath so long watred and his mouth gaped for England that after Spaine he wisheth England were his aboue all the Countries of the World and his Catholique Maiestie is very confident that this Match will giue a mayne stroke to the busines Q. E. If he once haue England he will presently assume the Title of Emperour of the West as King Philip his Father was resolved to doe a little before his death yea his Ambition was so violent as he missing of England would haue proclaimed himselfe Emperour of Spaine and had not his Councell diverted and prevented him he would haue sayled to Mexico and there invested and intituled himselfe Emperour of America P. H. And I haue heard that Gondomar hath given the King of Spaine his Master good hope of England for 't is certaine that hee not long since wrote to the Dukes of Lerma and Pastranna that the report of the strength of England resembled those huge Pageants and Colosses erected at Rome as the Caesars past from the Melvine bridge to the Capitoll in Triumph who were outwardly glorious but within fill'd onely with straw and poore combustible stuffe E. 6. Indeed it is the shame weaknes of England that Spaine is no better acquainted with its strength Q. A. And t is my griefe that Spaine should see Englands weaknesse and not feele its strength Q. E. O but it is the Spanish Match which will giue fire to England and make her welter in her miseries and flame in her calamities and afflictions Q. M. No no that Match will keepe the Temple of Englands Peace from firing H. 8. Yea as Erostratus did that of Diana of Ephesus which in one day consumed all the wealth that rich Asia had beene many yeares and ages getting Q. A. As Religion is the powerfullest passion of our Soule so there is no stronger lincke of Friendship then Conscience and therfore I hope my sonne Charles will not consent to match with the Infanta of Spaine Q. M. But one of his chiefest Vertues is his obedience to the King his Father for although the Prince be his

your Masters generall hopes pretences and also of your owne particular credit and reputation aswell in England as Spain you haue many eies ouer you although your sweet wordes and promises lulle King Iames asleepe you will neverthelesse go neere to be circumuented by those you seeke to circumuent If you can bring in the Infanta doubt you not but she will vsher in the Pope and consequently he the Catholike King your Master Forget not to continue and fortefie your Intelligence with the Seminaries and Iesuits of England as also with the Catholike Ladyes of that Kingdome and especially with those of the Nobler ranke and who are most powerfull at Court for they may open a passage for your Master when none else dare At any hand vse the prime of your Art Inuention to keepe the King of England poore be sure to rivet this nayle soundly to his Maiestie that there is no Vertue so Royall and Magnificent in a Great King as Liberality I am sorie to heare that Englands Nauie Royall doth so prosper and flourish In which regard consideration the King your Master shal do well to build store of new Ships in Biscay Ostend and Dunkerke for if Spaine master England at Sea England can neuer withstand Spaine by Land for now the English are Effeminate and you Spaniards Souldiers I doubt not but by this time there is such order taken in Spain that the English Fleet at Alicant Cartagena shall returne home with losse shame and repentance whereby you may teach them that it is only proper for Spaniards to Domineere at Sea and that the Sea and Maritine actions are now Spaines no longer Englands Element So whiles England lyes gasping on her bed of Peace securitie let the King your Master provide for warre Continue to sow Diuision in the Church of England and rather augment then diminish your Pensions to you know whom If there be any Army to goe out of England either for Bohemia the Palatinate the Netherlands or Venice deale so effectually with King Iames that either it be so small as it can doe no great hurt to Catholikes or bee a meanes to cause them to stay so long that it be impossible to doe any good for Protestants I commend your Excellencies policy in being sharpe and bitter against those who either Speake write or Preach against the King your Master and his pretences for now you hauing the Honour and felicitie to see your selfe tyed to King Iames his Eare his Maiesty to your Girdle the disgrace and punishment of these wil terrifie others Be sure to be intimately acquainted with all Factious and Discontented Catholikes for they will proue fine Agents Instruments to execute your Masters commands I am glad to see King Philip so sleight and disrespect King Iames as he hath not this many yeares sent him an Extraordinary Ambassadour especially now for Treating and Concluding this Match for the more you and he Debase the Honour and vndervalue the Reputation of England the more you aduance and prise that of Spaine But that which grieues me most is because God himselfe hath opposed and confirmed the breach and delaceration of the Match but I hope that for the Catholike Kings sake our Holy Father the Pope and our blessed Mother the Church will so interpose their Prayers to his Sacred and Diuine Maiesty that very shortly he wil reuoke change his Resolution and relish that which hee now Distasteth Through your zeale and industry I likewise doubt not but before a few yeares be past and blowne over to see England made a Province to Spaine her Nobilitie most murthered and the rest caryed away Slaues to worke in the Mines of Peru and Mexico the Pope Installed all Heretikes rooted out either with Fire or Halter Let your Excellency proceed as you haue well and happily begun and feare not but you shal enioy your wishes the King your Master his hopes and my selfe and all the Roman Catholikes of England our desires In the meane time I kindly greet and salute your Excellency and by your next Dispatch for Spaine fayle not to signifie that I kisse the Catholikes Kings hand Written and sent from Heaven Your Excellencies Friend MARIE Queene Queene Mary To the Roman Catholikes of England of both Sexes and of all Rankes MY Heart on Earth and my Soule in Heauen hath euer so deepely affected you and your Religion as to the vtmost of my power I will neuer permit that any aduerse accident or Stratagem whatsoeuer shall endamage you or preiudice it to which end now by Mercury whom I haue purposly sent vnto you I wold not fayle to aduertise you of a Consultation which hath bin heere held by my Father Henry VIII my Brother Edward VI. my Sister Queene Elizabeth Queene Anne Prince Henry and my selfe tending to the safetie and glory of England to the vnmasking of Spaines pretentious Ambition and Treacherie to many Estates of Europe and more especially to the vtter breach of the Match betwixt Prince Charles the Infanta of Spaine which two last points I alone maintayned and defended but they all most violently Contradicted and Opposed In which Consultation I write it aswell with Griefe as Pittie Count Gondomar hath beene narrowly both sifted and censured and all his Actions brought on the Table and made apparant and obvious to the dimmest Eye to the weakest Iudgement and Vnderstanding the which I haue now signified his Excellency by a particular Letter Wherein I haue prayed him to haue a more iealous and curious Eye ouer his Secretaries as I know England hath ouer him And to the end your Soules and Consciences may haue Spiritual food Consolation I wish and exhort you to put all your Wits on the tender-hookes to bring in the Infanta Or else neuer expect the Pope and consequently not the Catholike King For else all your Intelligence with Rome and Spaine your Correspondence with the Iesuites and Count Gondomar will not preuaile nor your poyson Poniard or Powder take effect if the Match doe not And because King Iames wants Money and his Exchequer is drawne dry and exhausted if hee stand on a greater summe then the Catholike King can or will giue you shall do a most acceptable seruice to our Blessed Father the Pope and to our Holy Mother the Church That you Lords and Knights morgage your Manners and Plate and you Ladyes and Gentlewomen pawne your Ringes and Iewels to make vp the expected Summe For the Match once consumated you know and Count Gondomar can perfectly teach you a thousand wayes to refetch it with a ioyfull and golden Interrest I highly prize and applaude your Ioy when you saw Bohemia wonne the Palatinate assaulted towards which Victories and Conquests your bountiful Contributions gaue a great stroke which although Ferdinand for the present cannot recompence yet doubt not but Philip shortly and futurely will Sith his Ambassadour Gondomar makes him confident that you are as fast nayled to his Scepter as his Catholike Maiestie is to the Popes tripple Crowne Be you still the eyes of Count Gondomar and let him still continue your Oracle for you can neuer desire a better Solliciter then himselfe nor a stronger Protector then the King his Master But in very deed I much feare that this great Parliament will teach the Protestants of England wit and you Romane Catholikes repentance If Holland the Palatinate or Venice be in the Field be not you Idle in your Houses or in England for although Douer be shut you shall finde Ports enough open for it is for the Progression and Aduancement of the Catholike Cause for the Seruice of the great Catholike King and if all things hit well you shall not repent your selues of your Valor Generositie employed spent in his Service What though God haue heere approued of this Consultation against the Match yet his great Vicar the Pope will Confirme the Match against the Consultation Therefore make you your Peace with the Pope doubt not but his Holinesse both can and will at his pleasure mak his with his God Howsoeuer be ruled and beleeue in the Pope who is the Head of the Church For you know out of the Church there is no Saluation I like well that there daily Trauels some of your wisest Gentlemen for Spaine and now you see there is no feare to bring home Priests and Iesuites for Count Gondomar hath found out the Art and Mysterie to open the Doores of Wisbich the Gatehouse and the Clicnke at his pleasure To liue Idle is Effeminate and base bee you therefore like your selues still busie and in action for as in matters of Religion and Pietie so in those of the State the Practique is alwayes more Honourable then the Theorie In a word as long as Heritike Kinges raigne in England your zealous Catholikes shall there finde but little Peace and lesse Ioy and yet I must needs confesse that God seemes to beare a particular affection to King Iames but withall you know the second meanes must be vsed which I write to my comfort I see his Maiestie neglects So if Gondomar continue in England and the Match dye not then I hope a little time will worke all thinges to the best Till when I salute you all and will still pray with you for the Prosperitie of the Great cause Written and sent from Heaven Queene MARIE FINIS

and lowe Germany And if Spain thinke so Contareno the Venetian Ambassadour resident with the King my Husband and since him Donato likewise tolde me that herein Spaine is deceived in the Arithmetick of his ambition and vsurpation and thus to reckon is to reckon without his Hostesse and without God Swisserland H. 8. BVt how do the warlike Cantons of Swissers trust the King of Spaine Q. A. As they doe the Emperour Ferdinand his brother Leopaldus and the rest of the Austrian Princes for they know his ambition and their malice and so neither feare him nor love these Q. M. But they love the double Pistols of Spaine doe they not Q.E. Yes but they say the French Crownes of the Sunne are farre purer and truer gold and therefore passe currenter with them E. 6. The Austrian Princes and the Swissers I haue still heard are from Father to Sonne hereditary and irreconcilable Enemies P. H. Yea the Swissers draw good vse and benefit hereof for by this meanes they live not in security as some other States doe but are still armed and ready to march and follow their Colours Q.E. But there is no Warre would be so acceptable and pleasing to them as vp to Millane or downe to the free County Brabant and Heynault if France Savoy and Venice would command them the first and England France and Holland ordaine and give way to the second Q. A. What is not past is yet to come Q.M. Yea but the Councell of Spaine hath policy enough to insinuate and temporize with all these Princes and States and so to divert their Designes and frustrate their resolutions if they were bent that way P.H. It hath indeede hitherto proved so by Spaine for their policy and treachery hath purchased and gotten them more Countries then either their valour or swords Q. M. These easie Conquests are still sweet and pleasing to Spaine P. H. Yea but they are neither honest nor just E. 6. But hath not Spaine cavill'd with the Swissers for their confines and limmits Q.E. Yes two wayes next Germany by Leopaldus and betwixt Losanna and Gray in the free County by the Archduke Albertus Q. M. Yea yea the King of Spaine will angle so long till he take Q.E. But hath not Spaine attempted by his Ambassadours and Agents to sowe discention and discord amongst these Helvetian Cantons to oppose them one against the other and so to debauch and withdraw them first from the French Kings seruice and then to his owne P. H. Yes many times but that tricke of Spaine is now growne olde and thrid-bare so as the Swissers vowe to remedy the first and the French Kings to prevent the second Q.M. But the Catholique King will watch those Swissers a good turne and if the Ephinaerides of his envie ambition and greatnesse faile him not either his Spinola or his Pedro de Toledo shall one of these dayes dine with him at Berne Eriburg or Soleurre ere their table-cloathes be layed Q. E. But Sister you are deceived in the Swissers for their Table cloathes are alwayes nayled to their Tables yea they haue so great a quantity of Swords Pikes and Muskets in a readinesse to give any enemy of theirs a bloudy banquet that if Philip King of Spaine dare assault them they doubt not but to vse him as they haue formerly done Philip Duke of Burgundy whom they ouerthrew in three severall pitchd battels at Granson Morat and Nancy where he losed his treasure his men and his life The Grisons H. 8. BVt how stand the Grisons affected to Spaine E. 6. Spaine through the vicinity of Millane doth so often knocke at their doores that if they keepe them not fast shut they know or at least feare that hee will shortly enter by the Voltaline and Chiavena Q.M. O though of late they made a shew of resistance yet the gold of Spaine the neighbourhood of Millane the Fort Fuentes but chiefly their owne credulity and security hath almost brought them to the King of Spaines lure Q.E. This people were both warlike and wise P.H. But Spaine will briefly make them fooles and cowards if they will hearken to him Q M. As how Nephew pray be not bitter against Spaine P. H. Why first Spaine will nussell them vp in peace and security till matters be ripe or else he will engender factions and sowe discords among themselues either for Religion or ranke or betwixt them and their dearest friends the Swissers and so when he sees all things ready and the Iron hot then hee will march and strike and not faile to vnite and annex the Cantons of the Grisons to Millane as he hath already done Millane to Spaine H. 8. If the Grisons at any time lose the Swissers friendship or their owne vigilancy and generosity it will not be long ere they shake hands with their liberty and lives Q.M. So Spaine hopes for if warre cannot worke and effect it they make no doubt but peace shall Q.E. If the Grisons hearken to the Charmes of Spaine they are halfe lost Q.M. If they hearken not to Spaine they are wholly vndone but if they listen to Spaine all will be well H. 8. Yea Daughter I beleeue for the Spaniards but not for the Grisons Q. E. To trust to Spaine is to rely on a broken staffe and to harbour a Serpent in our own bosomes P.H. To trust to the promises of Spaine is to commit our selues to the mercy and protection of a Lyon who will devoure vs. Q.M. The Grisons will see and say the contrary E. 6. So will I say if I see the contrary till when I feare the Grisons will buy their peace as well with teares as blood Savoy H. 8. BVt how doth Savoy brooke Spaine for I take it this present Duke Charles Emanuell married this King Philip 3. his second Sister the Infanta Katherina Michaela P.H. Savoy loves Spaine as it hath deserved of it for the noble and generous Duke thereof cries out God defend mee from such a brother in law as King Philip. Q.M. I beleeve if the Catholique King offered that Duke any vnkinde office it was nothing but because hee was so neere a neighbour to Geneva as hee and the Pope suspected his Highnesse would turne Caluinist Q. E. Alas that good Citie of Geneva why all the world knowes the Dukes loue to it and its Religion witnesse the Barron of Attignac and his Consorts as also Terraill and Bastide but if there were once a Spanish Garison in this Citie Savoy would soone know how to distinguish betwixt good and bad neighbours E. 6. But it is the laughture of the world to say that Spaine hates Savoy because he loves the Religion of Geneva P. H. Yet this is as true as many other of Spaines colours pretexts and evasions when hee hath a purpose and plot to vsurpe Q.M. Why wherein hath the King of Spaine abused or wronged the Duke of Savoy P.H. First in being himselfe the chiefe cause and subiect and then making him the

Instrument and executioner to cut off the two noble heads of Biron in Paris and D' Albigny in Turin Q.M. Why the Catholique King is the vniversall King and therefore it is not strange if in all Countries of the world hee haue his farre fetch'd policies Agents and Instruments to make his stratagems and resolutions take effect for those who are obstacles to his will and pleasure his verball friendship shall alwayes prove their reall overthrow and subversion howsoeuer he and his Ministers pretend and make shew of the contrary Q.A. Nay let vs leaue Biron and D'Albigny in their Graves for mee thinkes it is a poore charity to rake vp the ashes of the dead And for our better information let vs take a survey of the courtesie or rather of the cruelty that Spaine hath offered Savoy E. 6. None knowes nor can deliuer the particular truth thereof so well as your Royall Sonne Prince Henry Q.M. But I feare my Nephew will be too partiall in the delivery hereof betweene the King of Spaine and the Duke of Savoy because I haue heard that of the two Princesses their daughters he preferd that of Savoy before this of Spaine H. 8. No no my Nephew Henry is a iudicious and iust Prince therefore I know hee will not wrong Spaine to doe right to Savoy Q. A He resembles King Iames his Father to well whoe will still loue the King of Spaine although therein he hate him selfe therefore speake on fayre Sonne P. H When Great Henry of France my honoured Vncle made warres vpon the present Duke of Sauoy for the recouery of his Marquisat of Saluses then this Phillip King of Spaine vnder the pretence and shewe to ayd the Duke his brother in Lawe against the French sent him many troopes and Regiments of Spanyards for the preseruation of his State when the peace being made betwixt the King and the Duke and the exchange for Saluses with the Countreyes of Bresse and Gex ratified and acomplished These Spanish Regiments being quartered in Carbonieres Mountemellion Savillan Pignoroll and other places of Sauoy Piedmont they vpon no reqvest or assommons made them by the Duke would depart thence but being commaunded the Contrary by the Count de Fuentes Viceroy of Millan as he was from the King his Master from Spaine they peremptorily resolued and vowed to keepe firme footing which they along time did vntill at last that wise Valiant Duke being thereunto constrained for the securitie of his estate whose emmynent and vtter subuersion he apparantly sawe before his eyes he very nobly cutt all their throates H. 8. Beleeue me his Highnesse of Sauoy did well for it was an act most worthy of his iudgement and generositie Q M. But the King of Spaine the Dukes of Lerma Pastrama Denia Albecurque Tolleao and all the Counsell of warre of Spaine vowe to haue their reuenge of this affront Q. E. Spaine hath done his woorst to Sauoy alreadie for as long as France loues Sauoy Sauoy needs not feare Spaine at least mine Authors tell me soe who are that famous Captaine the Duke of Dedis guieres his valiant son De Crequy noble Du Termes Q. A. Though this one wronge be one too many yet is these all the wronges that this King of Spaine hath offered this Duke of Sauoy P. H. Noe Madame for although the Duke winke and seemes with father Aubigny to haue the art of forgettfullness yet he well remembers how Don Iuan de Taxis Spaines Ambassadour in France told Lullins Arconas and Alimes his Highnesse Ambassadours at Lyons that the Kinge his master would Contribute towards the Exchange of the marquisat of Saluces conditionally it remayned on that side the Alpes from the French and since how his Catholique Maiestie hath performed nothing He remembers Spaines Plott vpon his Castle of Nice the key not only of his Countryes but of Italy when his Spanish Galleyes lay at Villa franca to bereaue him of his Children He remembers how the Spanish Cardynalls oppose his precedency at Rome with the Duke of Florence and how the Catholike King or his Viceroy of Millan for him was the match and Incendiary to set fire twixt the Duke of Mātoua him for the Marquisate of Montferrad Q. E. Wee may see what a kind brother in Lawe the King of Spaine is and what it is to build vpon his affiance afinity promises and asistance P. H. I am glad the Duke of Savoy and the Princes his children haue now purchased the length of Spaines foote E. 6. They haue reason to haue it for they were all enforced to take it with their swordes Pikes and Lances at Cassall● Verceile and other wheres Q. A. As longe as Savoy loues not Spaine The Marquis of Lullius and Monseur De Gabaleon told me it needes not feare it Q. M. O but as long as Spaine Knockes at the gates of Sauoy and Piedmond he may at last enter Q. E. Sauoy hath reason to enter Millan not Spaine Sauoy Q. M. But tyme and the policie and Swords of Spaine cut all donations and rightes in peeces P. H. Savoy hath had warninges enough to beware of Spaine and therefore as I euer loued that generous Duke soe I hope that he and the Illustryous valliant Princes his Sonnes will neuer want armes of steele and heartes of Diamonds to our braue Spaine who with such ambition and malice seekes to out braue it France H. 8. But what sayes France of Spaine Q. M. My honoured father all the world knowes that Spaine hath euer loued France well Q. E. Yea too too well and so well as France will neuer loue Spaine much lesse trust it in requitall Q M. Why hath not Spaine reason to ballance and counterpoise the power and greatnesse of France P. H. Yea but not to seeke to make that famous flourishing Kingdome become a Prouince to Spaine Q. M. Spayne neuer wish't it much lesse attempted it Q. E. Yeares more often then France hath Prouinces or Spayne Cittyes P. H. Why who was the Avthor and Protector of the League but first Spaine then the Pope and next the Devill Q. M. O that was onely to preserue Catholiques and the Catholique Religion and to exterminate and roote out Heretiques and was not this well done of the King of Spaine sith he is the Catholique King E. 6. Nay now the least child in France knowes that Religion was onely the pretext but Empire and Dominion the obiect of that League How else dared Mendoza Spaines Ambassadour in Paris seeke the Crowne of France for the Infanta of Spaine or how els dared the Iesuites his ministers in their seditious Sermons and pernicious Pamphlets aduance her right to the Crowne and Kingdome when God and the world knowes shee had none to it Q. M. Why it was when God had caused that good Fryer Iames Clement to kill that bad King Henry the third at Saint Clou and when indeede that Kingdome was without a head and then the King of Spaine had reason to